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See what I mean?

Below is an excerpt from today's Crikey. No prizes for guessing which one I agree with. The first speaks of the practical problems and costs of using clean coal. The other says he has satisfied himself that it can all be done using a mix of renewable energy sources, and says all that is lacking is the political will to do so. One is facing reality. The other isn't.

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13 . Capturing the carbon from coal: Should we? Shouldn't we?

Compiled by Thomas Hunter:

Crikey spoke to two experts with differing views about the viability, the benefits and the common sense of Australia investing in coal fired power generation with carbon capture and sequestration (CCS). Here are their views on the realities of coal with CCS and the alternatives.

Dr David Brockway, Chief of the CSIRO Division of Energy Technology.

Coal is Australia’s largest commodity export, providing an income of about $22bn in 2006/07; approximately one-half of this is from steaming coal used for power generation. Coal is also a cost-effective primary fuel for over 80% of Australia’s power supply. It is a principle fuel for power generation worldwide. However, the use of coal results is relatively high greenhouse gas emissions, and the impact of these emissions on climate change places questions on its long-term use.

To address these issues, complementary low emission technology research, development, demonstration and deployment programs are underway in a number of countries, including Australia.

These technologies generally fall into two categories. Firstly, those aimed at finding ways to make coal more efficient, so less coal is combusted to create the same amount of electricity; and, secondly, finding ways to capture the carbon dioxide created when burning coal and to permanently store or sequester it deep geological formations. Of course, the ideal is to combine them. And, yes, greater amounts of coal will be consumed to provide the energy required to enable the carbon dioxide to be captured and sequestered, but this will only occur in order to reduce the net emissions to the environment by significant amounts, potentially as high as 90%.

A number of other low emissions technologies, including renewables, are in development. Research shows that, firstly, the lowest cost route to low emissions power is a portfolio of technologies and, secondly, that all low emissions technologies will result in higher costs for power.

It is recognised worldwide that clean coal technology (CCT) will provide power, at the power station, that is about twice the current cost of coal-fired power generation. In Australia, wind power now costs at least twice as much to produce as coal-fired power, solar thermal possibly four to five times as much and photovoltaics five to ten times as much. Costs are expected to reduce as each technology goes through research, development and demonstration, but that will occur over one or two decades.

While power costs will rise in achieving low emissions, the cost of power to the consumer will not double. The cost of power to the consumer comprises the cost of generation, transmission, distribution and retail, with generation only making up about one-third of the total to domestic consumers.

Most countries have an enormous investment in long-lived coal fired power generation so it is logical to develop and implement CCTs as they become proven and cost-competitive, particularly where they have the potential to be retrofitted to existing power stations. And while most renewables remain substantially higher in cost than even clean coal technologies, it is also logical to invest in research and development for them to drive the costs down substantially. This is why institutions like CSIRO along with Government and industry are undertaking research, pilot plant and demonstration programs across a wide range of fossil fuels, renewables, distributed generation and energy management technologies.

Dr Mark Diesendorf, Senior Lecturer in Environmental Studies at the University of New South Wales.

I object to the term clean coal. It’s a marketing term that has been produced by the marketing arm of the coal industry. There’s no such thing as clean coal and there never will be, although in the future it is possible there will be coal power with reduced greenhouse emissions.

Should it be part of Australia’s energy future? If a country is prepared to spend several billion dollars to get the whole system up and running we’d be silly not to use it should it be proven to be safe. But I don’t think Australia should be spending billions of dollars. This is a huge project that can really only be effectively be developed by a superpower, either the United States or the European Union. We are seeing right now the US closing down its principle project, FutureGen, because it is now going to be three times as expensive as it was originally proposed. There are some things we can still do. We should continue with the basic geological research to identify the potential underground storages in Australia, and some of the experiments such as the one in the Otways in Victoria to sequestrate carbon dioxide underground. But to try to develop the whole system would be absurd for Australia in my view.

It should be remembered that if we put some or all of that money into developing renewable energy technologies which could generate the same amounts of electricity. What we can’t do with renewables is have endless growth doubling the demand every 20 or 30 years ad infinitum. If we had the political will, we could generate all our electricity from renewable sources. With the political will, by 2020 we could have 25% of all electricity from renewable sources, which is the greens target. I have studied electricity generation from renewable energy in some detail and it is a myth for some people to claim that renewables can’t provide baseload.

A combination of different types of renewable sources together can be just as reliable as the conventional system and it is significantly cleaner both in terms of greenhouse gases and other forms of pollution. Coal with carbon capture and storage is an unproven technology. With renewable energy technologies, we have a wide range of technologies which have been proven but they haven’t been widely disseminated.

Neither the coal scenario nor the energy efficiency/renewable energy scenario can endlessly be used to meet demand that doubles every 20 to 30 years. We have to reign that in.

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/experiment-on-clean-coal-to-bury-waste/2008/04/01/1206850910666.html

Experiment on clean coal to bury waste

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Marian Wilkinson Environment Editor
April 2, 2008

A "CLEAN COAL" experiment will begin in Australia today when the Energy Minister, Martin Ferguson, opens a demonstration plant that will inject up to 100,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide into a deep underground storage site in Victoria.

The storage site, two kilometres under dairy country in the Otway basin, is part of the world's largest demonstration plant burying carbon dioxide.

The launch will be attended by energy officials from major greenhouse emitting countries including the US, Japan, South Korea and India, along with coal, gas and oil company executives who are here for the meeting of the Asia-Pacific Partnership on Clean Development and Climate.

But the event has been marred by the failure of China to send any officials to the meeting or the launch.

Mr Ferguson discovered the Chinese absence only yesterday. China has not indicated why it has not sent representatives, given it is a key player in the quest for clean-coal technology and one of the highest emitters of greenhouse gases.

His spokeswoman said there had been "travel and logistics" problems for the Chinese. It is not know whether the dispute over coal prices between China and the resource companies BHP Billiton and Rio influenced the decision.

Addressing the delegates at the Asia-Pacific Partnership last night, Mr Ferguson said the world would be reliant on fossil fuels for the foreseeable future despite the threat of global warming. "Therefore clean-coal and cleaner-fossil-fuel technology has to be a major part of our policy response to climate change," he said.

The Otway project is run by a consortium called CO2CRC, which includes the Federal Government, CSIRO, six universities and energy companies including BHP-Billiton, Rio, Xsrata and BP.

It is designed to show on a small scale that capturing carbon dioxide, shipping it by pipe and storing it underground is possible without it leaking.

If it works, the consortium hopes a large commercial plant will be established to transport carbon dioxide from coal-fired electricity plants to underground storage sites more than 120 kilometres away, possibly offshore.

The head of the project, Peter Cook, said he was confident the demonstration plant would pose no safety risk, but part of its aim was to monitor the air and ground water over the next one to two years.

"We are in an area that has held carbon dioxide naturally for a long long time," he told the Herald. "We are doubly confident it won't be a problem."

The Otway project is just one of several clean-coal projects the Federal Government is supporting. The Greens have raised concerns that the technology will receive the bulk of federal funding for research into alternative energy. The Government has promised $500 million for its clean-coal initiative, and energy companies are lobbying for more funds from the emissions trading scheme.

Australia's main coal-fired power stations emit about 176 million tonnes of carbon dioxide, and any plan to capture and bury the bulk of these emissions would push up the price of electricity.

The National Generators Forum also estimates that the infrastructure needed to build clean-coal plants and pipe the carbon dioxide to burial sites would cost billions of dollars. Its members are calling on the Federal Government to fund part of the effort.

Dr Cook said clean coal would be expensive. "If the Government thinks we've got to reduce CO2 emissions, if we are going to continue to use fossil fuels, this is the only way of doing it. We are not going to cease using fossil fuels in the next 50 years. It is just inconceivable."

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Dr-Karl-admits-mistake-over-clean-coal/2007/11/08/1194329350399.html

But his credibility is shot to pieces. A man with his environmental profile should have done his homework before shooting off his mouth. His previous erroneous statement has done untold damage to the clean coal cause.

Dr Karl admits mistake over clean coal

Celebrity scientist and senate hopeful Dr Karl Kruszelnicki has admitted he was wrong to describe clean coal technology as a complete furphy.

Dr Kruszelnicki now admits clean coal is a worthwhile solution to climate change and not similar to National Socialist party propaganda, as he said on the campaign trail in Sydney last week.

Dr Kruszelnicki, a NSW senate candidate for the Climate Change Coalition, told The Australian: "I was wrong. We're very happy to admit our mistake on that."

The error comes from incorrect data found in the first edition of Australian of the year Tim Flannery's best-selling climate change book The Weather Makers, which has subsequently been corrected.

"We're stuck with the fact that we have still got to make electricity in the short term from carbon of some sort," he told the paper.

"Something is better than nothing, so sequestering carbon dioxide is better than just letting it go out.

"I see it as a stop-gap, short-term thing rather than a long-term solution because the more you store it away the more the chance that it will escape," he said.

Dr Kruszelnicki said clean coal technology was an interim technology that should be explored.

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