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 No.2725[Reply]

post some pics n00bz
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>>2742

>It's all about data preservation. I also know a lot of people who like to collect computers, open them up and upgrade them and mess with their OS, et cetera. It's quite depressing, though, because they seem to not know a lot about how computers work - they couldn't build their own operating software or anything like that, certainly, and even I surpass their knowledge in diagnostics sometimes, which gives me secondhand embarrassment, haha. That's just my experience though.


i have seen this as well. and i'm afraid i have to admit - i also have fallen pray to hoarding. i have my trusty poweredge r730 humming in the background 24/7, hosting services for me and my friends, as well as storing terabytes of whatever media i come across. but i could never for the life of me write any decent and useful software myself, let alone an operating system. that's a massive skill issue on my part because i never really tried to do programming myself, even though i want to.

hmm, actually, now that i have a lot more free time on my hands…

>I think software has always been rapidly changing, hasn't it?

>Ten years ago, every high school kid was plugged in, and now people ten years younger than we were then are plugging in.

true, especially now that even a non-technical person can prompt an LLM to write a specific program for any usecase. 12 year olds vibecode roblox cheats or whatever they play nowadays.

>I do remember that feeling of finally getting a phone in high school, spending as much time in class as feasible sitting and talking with other people from around the world and being the only one doing that - it wasn't that no one else had phones, of course, but others were either trying to be good students and not on them or were playing Fortnite or some other game. Maybe that's why I find the Lain obsession so odd; everyone I know is a normie when it comes to internet stuff. I assume a bit of obsession with the internet onto Lain that I don't really see reflected in the demographic. Maybe that's another changing of the times, maybe I'm looking for a reaction from ten or twenty years ago and not paying attention to the culture enough.


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>>2743
Apologies for forgetting to tag your post before. Data hoarding is really easy to be mammon about because it shrugs off the apparent consequences the real-world equivalent has. Typical hoarders will make their entire house an unlivable wreck; data hoarders might raise the energy bill a bit too high. I fear the affects on the heart are the same, but there are genuine reasons to download stuff. It takes more energy to redownload content repeatedly, and having a physical copy ensures reliability. I always download a PDF etc I want to read, for example. There's quite a few links and such I've lost now that I would still have if I saved it and never deleted it. Best of luck with learning coding and such.

I'm not in a position to say how artificial intelligence will effect our internet of things. It seems to use a lot of energy, I guess. I see it as a bad thing, but then I have a bad habit of seeing the development of the internet as a whole as a trek into the mouth of hell one step at a time. Though touching on Roblox does make me think of the stagnation it feels like the Internet is about to fall into. Every major platform now has established history. I shudder a little to imagine that people fifty years from now will be looking up "2020 aesthetics" on Pinterest still, that nothing better will have taken its place. Even video games have succumbed to that kind of thing, beyond Roblox; Overwatch 2 is just Overwatch, Counter-Strike 2 is just Global Offensive. I guess that's just how software works though, you can have your ship and rebuild it too. Though I just said that hasty obsolescence was how software worked, heh. I can't tell which side will win out at this point.

I don't know that the Internet helped me at all with my connections. In fact, it seems to have ruined what little connection and ability to connect I did have. I don't want to dismiss all the stories I hear to the contrary, as suspicious as I like to be, but I can say confidently those things were not what I found. My peers could at least infer things about me through being around me; it feels like being understanding is not something the Internet is capable of. I could relate to my real-life peers at least a little before the internet, but now I fear that I've entered such a dire spiral of eclectic specialization that I'll never really get along with anyone ever again. Yet, at the saPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2744

phew, that was a fun couple of days. sorry for being absent - went to another town to see my relatives one last time before i depart from this godforsaken shithole. also went fishing, caught a bunch of rudds and young breams(first pic). cooked the bigger ones, gave the rest to the stray cats.

>Apologies for forgetting to tag your post before. Data hoarding is really easy to be mammon about because it shrugs off the apparent consequences the real-world equivalent has. Typical hoarders will make their entire house an unlivable wreck; data hoarders might raise the energy bill a bit too high. I fear the affects on the heart are the same, but there are genuine reasons to download stuff. It takes more energy to redownload content repeatedly, and having a physical copy ensures reliability. I always download a PDF etc I want to read, for example. There's quite a few links and such I've lost now that I would still have if I saved it and never deleted it.


no worries dude. well, i can only speak for myself - my apartment is kind of a mess, cables and a bunch of random electronics everywhere. energy bill is fine so far, contrary to what i have expected. as per mental strain from all that - never got it, honestly. i use most of the things i download at least once, and then share it with the people, either by letting them grab a copy in person or running my seedboxes.

>I'm not in a position to say how artificial intelligence will effect our internet of things. It seems to use a lot of energy, I guess. I see it as a bad thing, but then I have a bad habit of seeing the development of the internet as a whole as a trek into the mouth of hell one step at a time. Though touching on Roblox does make me think of the stagnation it feels like the Internet is about to fall into. Every major platform now has established history. I shudder a little to imagine that people fifty years from now will be looking up "2020 aesthetics" on Pinterest still, that nothing better will have taken its place. Even video games have succumbed to that kind of thing, beyond Roblox; Overwatch 2 is just Overwatch, Counter-Strike 2 is just Global Offensive. I guess that's just how software works though, you can have your ship and rebuild it too. Though I just said that hasty obsolescence was how software worked, heh. I can't t
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>>2749
Nice fish. I wish I could go fishing where I live. Factories and chemical plants build right on the waters and pollute them such that we have signs around saying to not eat the fish from them. Fishing just to catch something never seemed fun to me.

Your talk of the underground reminds me a little of an article I read. That led me down an rabbit hole; apparently that article was based on a blog post, and that blog post was actually very influential. Eventually, the original blog post author compiled the writings into a book. I believe the article I was familiar with is in here. Very neat. The most vivid part of that article to me is the Dark Forest analogy it uses, that there is the clearnet and the dark forest, with the clearnet being publicly accessible websites and the dark forest being everything else. The dark forest is the natural response to commodification and is extremely susceptible to it, sharing space with the clearnet after all. That is the inherent difficulty, that there is no counter to what has become of the Internet in the true sense and one must simply turn the Internet into something useful. Of course, as I see it, even these walled gardens necessarily succumb to the issues of the Internet simply because it is the Internet still. SomethingAwful became a walled garden pretty early on, and it's a big cause for a lot of these issues. I fear that even being underground is a part of the issue, that there is nothing not commodified in some sense, that perhaps the best solution available is to direct that commodity away from behemoth corporate entities.

I think there's a bit too much dislike of the suburban home aesthetic. Most people chase after that merely for security. Sure, there is good in being without ties and drifting and doing what you want, but then maybe you end up dying on the street doing that. You don't die on the street if you have a house in your name and a spouse and some children who all deeply care for each other (though, is that kind of family structure still a thing?) Punks have been wearing suits for a long time, is what I mean. You can cultivate rich and meaningful awareness in that kind of situation. As you put it though, most are lost and have no sense of self. Their sense of self is a commodity to be bought and sold, in great quantities by others but primarily by themselves. I think that is what Lain was loPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2750

>Nice fish. I wish I could go fishing where I live. Factories and chemical plants build right on the waters and pollute them such that we have signs around saying to not eat the fish from them.


thank you! here the situation is kinda same, but i have a spot to fish upstream before all the factories dump their shit. i think the only thing dumping waste in this river before my place is a power plant in another town roughly 200km away. though i still check for ulcers and internal damage when i gut the fish.

>Fishing just to catch something never seemed fun to me.


same, i catch it to eat it, or feed someone else. doing this for sport seems wrong to me, same goes for hunting. if you catch it - put it to good use.

>the clearnet and the dark forest


yeah, i am familiar with this. there is no equivalent response to the hegemony of big tech over the internet right now, and there never will be, simply due to the disparity in resources. but it doesn't need to be, as this is asymmetric type of warfare. we just have to not lose long enough to see them crumble. whether that will happen in our lifetimes is another question.

>I think there's a bit too much dislike of the suburban home aesthetic. Most people chase after that merely for security.

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 No.2745[Reply]

I feel safe here.

 No.2746

Reflection,since this is my thread:I just wish people were allowed to simply just be themselves and not have to bend over backwards to use places like this.I guess i rea just am too old for the internet,huh?Not sociopathic enough,not mean enough,too old….i guess since i can't larp my life on the internet isnt worth living. Maybe….maybe i COULD go outside….at the very least pedos are hidden in plain sight out there.

 No.2747

Neurodivergency is a bitch and i make
a lot of mistakes in my life partly
because of that. Oh well,life goes on

 No.2748

its not safe out there hide outdoors while you still can



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 No.2718[Reply]

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We're gonna lain you, buddy.

 No.2724

lain



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 No.2723[Reply]

I hope dysphoric lainanon is hanging in there, wherever they are.


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