Opening Scaling Tension

At a certain stage, growth stops feeling like expansion and starts feeling like weight.

Revenue may still be coming in. The team is bigger. Systems exist on paper. But execution slows down. Follow-ups slip. Decisions cycle back to the founder. And despite more people and more activity, the business doesn’t move faster.

This is where most operators misdiagnose the problem. They assume they need better strategy, stronger talent, or more aggressive targets.

In reality, the constraint is almost always operational. Execution is breaking down at the behavior level.

The Hidden Constraint

The conversation surfaces a consistent failure point across scaling businesses. Leaders manage outcomes instead of managing execution.

Revenue, closed deals, and performance metrics are lagging indicators. They tell you what already happened. They don’t tell you why it happened or how to replicate it.

When leadership teams anchor on outcomes, they lose visibility into the system that produces those outcomes. That’s where inconsistency creeps in. A salesperson can hit quota one quarter and miss the next with no clear explanation. A team can look productive while quietly underperforming at the activity level.

This creates a dangerous cycle. Leaders react to numbers instead of controlling the system behind the numbers. That increases decision fatigue and reduces confidence in forecasting, hiring, and capital allocation.

The constraint is not effort. It is a lack of clarity around the behaviors that actually drive results.

The Operating Shift

The shift is straightforward but requires discipline.

Move from managing outcomes to managing behaviors.

This is not about ignoring metrics. It is about reclassifying them. Outcomes become validation, not direction. The real operating layer becomes the repeatable actions that consistently produce those outcomes.

In a sales context, this means tracking and reinforcing leading indicators. Prospecting activity, quality of conversations, adherence to process, and consistency of follow-up. These are the levers that drive predictable revenue.

This same principle extends across the business. Execution systems should define what gets done, how it gets done, and how often it gets done. Leadership’s role is to enforce that system, not chase results after the fact.

This is where operational leverage begins. Not through more output, but through tighter control of the inputs.

Execution in Practice

There are a few execution-level insights that stand out from the conversation.

First, hiring without structured onboarding creates immediate risk. Most operators invest heavily in recruitment and then treat onboarding as a formality. The result is unstable performance and higher turnover. Without a defined onboarding system, new hires default to old habits, which often do not align with your execution model.

Second, training cannot be treated as a one-time event. High-performing teams are not built through short bursts of learning. They require ongoing development tied directly to execution systems. Training introduces skills. Coaching reinforces application. Without both, performance degrades over time.

Third, behavior tracking must be granular enough to diagnose breakdowns. One example discussed is a salesperson who performed well in bursts but consistently declined after periods of success. The issue was not capability. It was a breakdown in a specific stage of the sales process that went unnoticed until it impacted results. Once identified, the adjustment was simple and produced a meaningful revenue increase.

This highlights a broader point. Execution systems need to make failure visible early. If you only see breakdowns at the outcome level, you are already behind.

Fourth, leadership time allocation is often misaligned. Effective sales leaders spend the majority of their time managing people and reinforcing execution, not creating strategy or reacting to reports. A structured division of time between management, coaching, and training reduces variability and increases team consistency.

These are not conceptual improvements. They are operational adjustments that directly impact decision-making speed, capital efficiency, and risk management.

Leverage Outcome

When execution is systemized at the behavior level, the business changes shape.

Decisions become easier because the system provides clarity. Performance becomes more predictable because inputs are controlled. Leaders spend less time reacting and more time directing.

This is what real operational leverage looks like. It is not about increasing output through more hours or more pressure. It is about increasing capacity by reducing variability and removing friction.

Leadership bandwidth expands because fewer issues require intervention. Teams operate with clearer expectations. Execution becomes consistent enough to trust.

At that point, growth stops feeling heavy. Not because the business is simpler, but because it is structured.

Connect With the Guest

To learn more about Tim Barry and their work:
Website: go.sandler.com/tjbarry
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The Immediate Move

The constraint is not your strategy. It is how consistently your business executes.

Start by identifying where outcomes are being managed instead of behaviors. Look at your core functions. Sales, operations, client delivery. Define the specific actions that drive results, then build systems that make those actions visible, measurable, and repeatable.

Reduce re-decisions. Eliminate ambiguity. Transfer ownership of execution through clear processes, not verbal expectations.

Leadership bandwidth is the limiting factor. Protect it by building systems that run without constant oversight. Structure replaces effort. Discipline replaces guesswork.

Watch this before you hire your next support role.

Full Podcast Transcript

Most operators don’t have a growth problem. They have a follow through problem. Deals stall, conversations drift, and momentum quietly dies in the gaps. On scale smart, grow fast. That’s exactly what we’re going to dig into. And when you’re buried in that, it’s not just strategy, it’s execution. That’s why at Workergenix, we bring in full-time ultimate executive assistants to lock in consistent follow-throughs so things actually move. Today’s guest has spent over four decades in the game building and scaling seven businesses.

Now he helps owners win through sales, leadership and coaching. And he hates losing more than he loves winning. Let’s get into it. Tim, welcome to the podcast. How are you today?

Very good. Thank you so much, Harley, for having me your wonderful podcast. Excited to share with you today.

Awesome, glad you’re here. Love for you to share a little bit about your background. What brought you to doing what you do today?

I have a weird story in that I started my first company when I was 14 years old. Out of greed and necessity, a little bit of both and have been self-employed for the 43 years since. I’ve just figured out how to grow and scale companies. Now I spent the last 11 as a Sandler franchisee. So I do sales training, leadership training, executive coaching, and I’m helping

you know, kinds of business owners across the country figure out how to scale and grow.

Awesome, sounds like you’ve got a lot of experience and knowledge to share with our audience today. I’m really excited to get into it. Now you say you’ve been in business for over 40 years, you’ve bought several companies. When you look at operators today, where do you see things actually breaking between having a plan and getting real momentum?

You I think it’s a great question. know, the entrepreneurial spirit is alive and well in America and it’s evidenced by, you know, even unusual things, things you wouldn’t be like, oh, you know, that’s a, you know, that’s a real thing, right? Like, you know, being a content creator, you’ve got to, you have to be constantly, you’re an entrepreneur, right? And, and so I think the, the, the

wheels come off of the rails are when you’re trying to scale beyond just, you know, you. If you’re the content creator, great, fine. But you’ve got to figure out like a scalable product or service to be able to hawk and to sell. Because otherwise, it’s literally just you by yourself. You’re a single solopreneur. But I do find that the…

Lots of hopes and dreams. Entrepreneurship always starts out with a dream. And then oftentimes will the realities of the business world will consume that dream really quickly. I think that that’s got everything to do with how you build your team around you.

Yeah, awesome. Now, Tim, when we were getting started today, you shared how you’ve got like kind of a four point plan you work through with people. Could you share kind of what those key points are and maybe start diving into that first one?

Sure, I think the first thing that a successful entrepreneur is going to do is they’re going to focus on building a successful sales team. And that’s an important piece, of course. Again, if you’re going to scale beyond just the founder of that organization, you’ve got to be able to empower and teach other people how to sell your product and your wares in order to achieve that. So the number one thing that I

work with my clients on is you’ve got to create a amazingly effective hiring and onboarding process. so lots of people might resort to using recruiters, which is fine, but you really should have your own recruiting process in the first place. So when you’re hiring, you know, know,

You’ve got the profile. You understand the characters and the traits of the person that you’re looking for. You’ve got a well-defined job description that really lays out what is expected in the execution of that role. So sales, pretty simple. You want somebody that’s goal-oriented. You want them to have a great internal engine, a motivation engine, if you will.

You want them to be a astute learner, someone who asks great questions, has high self-awareness and high emotional EQ. You want all those things inherently in that character because when you’re looking for those, first of all, to find somebody with all of those traits is pretty difficult.

This is why we call it hiring and onboarding, right? The hiring part is only part of the equation. The onboarding is how you retain them. And what we know is that when you hire someone off the streets, for example, their resume stays out on the various job boards for up to a year afterwards. So they’re still getting calls. And if you go through all of the expense and the agony of

recruiting a high performer, you hire them, but you don’t have a rock-solid onboarding process, they’re still getting calls from other organizations. And so the onboarding piece is just as important as the actual recruitment and hiring process itself. Does that make sense?

It does. Thanks for breaking that down. You know, one question on that finding and onboarding, I think a lot of people struggle with is like compensation models for salespeople. Do you have kind of general guidelines on that, whether it’s like a split of commission and base salary, or does it really depend on the industry?

I think it depends on what your goals are. Now, what I’ve found is that the employers that use a commission only compensation program, those are the hardest jobs to fill because there is a learning curve for everything, right? So for example, we just talked about hiring and onboarding. The onboarding process could take 90 days or more to fully execute.

And if you’re a commission only, yeah, that could be a problem if you don’t have the financial wherewithal to hang on for 90 days. But I also find that the commission only roles pay the best, right? If you can survive the onboarding process and come out of the blocks strong,

you’ll also by far make the most money. A lot of employers don’t have a model like that. They will do a hybrid where there’s a base salary of some sort just to kind of keep people alive. And of course, the trick is if you make the base salary too high, do you end up with lazy people that don’t maximize their efforts?

because they’re comfortable in whatever that, you know, whatever that base salary is, is kind of carrying them. So there, there’s always that, that danger. I particularly spent my whole life. I’m a hundred percent, you know, commission. I only eat what I kill and drag back, back home. So I’ve always been a fan of, know, it’s a high risk, but it’s also a super high reward. That’s the model that I liked the best. It’s not for most though.

Now when you’re stepping into a new business as a coach, what are some of the first things that you notice that aren’t really moving even though everything may look good on the surface?

One of the cardinal sins that a lot of business owners make is they manage by numbers, not by behaviors. And what I mean by that is when you look in the world of sales, the lagging indicator is the actual revenue that a salesperson can drag in, right? The leading indicator is the execution of the prospecting behaviors that result in the

lagging indicator, the actual sale. And too many times business owners are focused on the, you know, the actual revenue number as opposed to the, the leading indicator. Cause I can tell you, for example, I’m an old Chicago White Sox fan. grew up in Chicago. And if you know anything about major league baseball, the White Sox are one of the most horrific teams that there are. But they had a guy, this was in the

you know, mid 2000s and his name was Adam Dunn and Adam Dunn was a fumper. That dude would hit 40 home runs every year. But the problem was, is he’d also hit one, you know, 175 and he’d strike out 230 times a year. So he would, he’d get it right 40 times a year. He crunched the ball and everybody’s excited, but he was also a killer because, you know, he, he wasn’t on base enough in the world of sales.

You know, you want as many at bats as possible and you’re going to do your fair share of striking out. But you know, being in the batter’s box in the first place is the behavior of learning how to hit a 95 mile an hour fastball that’s thrown your head. Right. the home run is nice. It’s sexy, but you know, the more time you spend in the batter’s box, the more hits you’ll ultimately get. And so I hope I made that clear. the, the Cardinals sin is that.

most people will manage by the lagging indicator, not the leading one.

Awesome. I want to jump back into your main points again. We covered the first one. What’s the second point?

The second point is to build a high performing sales team as you want to make sure that you train them appropriately. Right. I think a lot of times the an employer will go through the recruiting and the hiring and even the onboarding process and they’ll build those things out. And then they are there will be some level during the onboarding of training. Here’s our company. Here’s our service or a product.

Here’s who we’re looking for. And then they kind of pat you on the head at 90 days and say, all right, go get them killer. And what we know is that that’s a dangerous place that you go through the effort to have a good recruiting, hiring, and onboarding process. You’ve got to provide development, professional development for even high performers.

And I think that that’s, know, the hyper for there’s salespeople. break into three different categories. You’ve got a high performer, you’ve got a variable performer, and then the low performer, the low performer is someone who, you know, who constantly regularly misses their targets and their goals. The variable performer in the middle is going to, you know, they’ll, they’ll, they’ll get a hit one day and then they’ll strike out three times the next. but your top performers.

are the ones that most business owners neglect the most in regards to professional development. And that’s a mistake, right? They’re like, well, that’s the one that’s bringing in 80 % of my revenues. I don’t want to mess with that one. I don’t want them upset and you know, whatever, whatever. So they, they let them be on their own and it’s a dangerous spot because again, we live in a competitive world. And if the salesperson gets bored or feels neglected,

If there’s not any challenge for them in what they do, they will. They’ll get bored and they will look elsewhere. So training them, providing them with some professional development program is extremely important to retention.

Yeah. Well, that is perfect for a question I had for you as well, which is how do you see the sales skill development, that training that we just talked about tying into a leader’s ability to actually free up their time and maybe their team’s time and also their trust in their sales team.

You know, for the leaders, you know, I’ve got a leader, I’ve got a sales leaders, you know, program that I put them through as well. But the, help me understand the question better. Cause I just got confused in my head.

Yeah, so just talking about the sales skill development and how that relates to a leader’s ability to free up their own time.

Yep, for a sales leader is what they’ll often do. The most efficient ones will not waste their time doing the training. They will subcontract that out to someone like me, for example, right? They’ll have me do it because that’s the one thing I focus on. As a sales leader, you’ve got a bunch of different things to worry about. And what we know is that when you’re in a leadership position, especially in sales, know, about 55 % of your time,

as a leader sales leader, a sales manager, a VP needs to be spent with, you know, managing your people. And that could be ride alongs and, and, know, doing reports and stuff like that. But the remainder of the other 45 % of that time, you should spend 30 % of that coaching, one on one coaching, and that’s different from training, of course.

Training I define as teaching someone a new skill. Coaching is helping someone take an existing skill that they have and apply it better and more effectively, you know, in a given scenario. So, if 55 % of the time they’re supposed to be like managing their people, you know, 30 % of it, now you’re at 85, 35%, 30 % of that time should be spent coaching.

And then you take training and mentoring and you can take the remaining 15 % and split it that way. But that’s the most effective division of labor I would teach to sales leaders, if you would.

Now as an entrepreneur and business leader is getting into this time where they are starting to delegate sales and they’re bringing on someone like you, what are some of the mindset shifts that you coach that helps them let go of the sales role without feeling like the standards are going to drop?

Yeah. Well, you know, you’re going to laugh when I even say this, but, for the first nine weeks of training, so training for it in my world happens on a repetitive basis. And it happens over a period of time. Like I won’t do sales boot camps, if you will, because my personal philosophy is, know, we’ve all gone to, you know, motivational talks and boot camps that lasted a day or two. And we know that about 90 % of the information that you

that you learn in those boot camps within 96 hours is you’ve forgot it and you can never access it again. you know, for me, training happens over a period of time and we do it in 90 minutes classes each week, you know, 44 weeks during the course of a calendar year. And so you…

You know, delve that piece out, right? And the first nine weeks, the managers will actually be in the training with their, uh, their sales people. And the reason that that is, is because we want the sales managers to know, uh, you know, what framework am I teaching and downloading into their team? uh, because there’s a second piece to this, you know, I can deliver the training, but I’m also not there 24 seven afterwards.

And so if the managers and leaders are in the first nine weeks of training, for example, they’ll understand fully the framework. And then I can coach the leaders and say, okay, here’s how to hold your people accountable to what I’m teaching them. So you don’t have to be in there for 44 weeks in a year. All you need is like the first nine and then you’ve got the framework. And then I’ll coach the leader through the framework.

Awesome. Well, let’s jump back into your key points. We’ve covered the first two. What’s the third that you like to share with people?

Well, we did a little bit of jumping because we hit hiring and onboarding your top performers as massive training to execute the winning behaviors. The third one was the managing the behavior is not the numbers. And I can’t stress this one enough because it’s easy to fall in love with the, you know, the end goal. There’s an old saying that a stopped clock is right at least twice a day.

And it’s true. You can have a salesperson that might be hitting their sales targets by closing two sales in a year, right? They could do exactly that. And you would think on the surface, well, that one is, you know, knocking it out of the park. They’re hitting their goal every time, you know, even though they’re only closing two sales a year. The real question as a manager, you have to be looking at like,

What behaviors are being executed? Because if you’re getting, you know, say you only have three sales calls in the whole year and you’re closed in two of them, that’s amazing. You have a 66 % closing rate, right? But you’re only doing three sales calls a year, which is, you know, like what’s the opportunity cost of only having those three? Well, what if they had 10 times that? What if they had 50 sales calls a year instead of, you know, and you were at two thirds at that point, you’re, you know, beyond a rock star at that point.

And so again, you’ve got to be able to be in, you know, there, the, there was a movie and a book called Moneyball that was written about the Oakland A’s and Billy Bean was the general manager of the Oakland A’s in the nineties. And it was curious because he started to bring in baseball statistics into play, right? like he relied less on the traditional old school, you know,

baseball scouting, and he started to look at like the metrics and, and that’s how we know that the top performing managers that have high performing sales teams, they managed by the execution of behaviors and measure those because they know if you execute the winning behaviors, you’re naturally going to get the result. It’s going to make sense.

Now, if a manager is reviewing numbers and seeing that there might be a gap in where someone is performing versus where they’d like to be, can you maybe share a story where some simple feedback or a rhythm of coaching has made a big difference in how that team performed?

Yeah, absolutely. So it happens all the time. And this is what good managers who are plugged into their team and invested in their team, you know, they do automatically. I had a client who had four salespeople. One was, you know, your top performer. One was a lower performer. But one of the two middle ones, they showed flashes of being able to go on hot streaks for long periods of time. But then they would, they’d run into a wall at some point.

And as it turns out, when, you know, when you’re following a, a sales process, when you’re at, when your sales team is executing a sales process, you can actually debrief your sales calls. if you’re documenting the debriefs, for example, like in a CRM or something like that, it’s incredibly helpful because you can start like seeing where it breaks down. So with Sandler, for example, there’s, it’s a seven step sales process and in each step.

You know, there are benchmarks which you can measure. And, and so what we noticed was that that variable performer that had the ability to shine and be a top performer for pretty long stretches, what happened would, they would get comfortable, right? Because they were making tons of money while they were on the hot streak and they would stop doing, they would bail out of the, the pain conversation prematurely.

Right? They would get comfortable. They’re like, you know, I already hit my quota for the year, you know, whatever, whatever. And so they would cut the pain step, short. And that was the actual problem. So once the manager and I were able to determine that, the manager was able to coach that salesperson into where they weren’t exactly like an A plus player, but they were an A minus player.

because you, you, you can see the dip in the numbers, you know, and, every time there was a dip in the numbers after going on a nice winning streak and all of sudden you, you know, you hit the wall. They were able to debrief that and say, okay, well here, and they would, the manager would coach that salesperson up and that had a massive impact. It was, you know, like a million dollars of additional revenue just by being able to recognize what was going on. and then, and then.

come up with a game plan to attack that problem. was a million dollar fix for that organization.

And I bet that was hugely helpful too for the salesperson because maybe they were making that change just subconsciously because they felt comfortable. It wasn’t even intentional.

And that’s just it. know, it was such an unconscious thing that, again, once the sales manager was able to help the salesperson throw that awareness radar up, as soon as they felt the dip, they’re like, I’m doing it again. And then they can course correct on the fly. And then the dip was, you know, minimal at best. Like I said, it went from, you know, like a B player.

to like an A minus and that was enough to bring in an additional million bucks of revenue per year to the company and the salesperson was just happy as can be because you know, he made way more money too.

sure. Now you’ve seen a lot of different team structures. I’m curious in your experience, where have you seen top performing sales teams and leadership teams leverage like executive assistants or virtual assistants to extend their capacity and get their time back?

Yeah, you know, I’ve got some clients that leverage the virtual systems, for example, to help with doing the CRM notes and stuff like that to update the CRM. I think that’s probably the most important one that I’ve seen. You know, having someone to do expense reports and…

the mundane kind of reporting tasks that a lot of salespeople have to do. Most salespeople have to do. You can never go wrong by having an EA or a virtual assistant. And it’s just good best practices because you get to focus. Think about this, if you’re a salesperson and your job is to be in front of a dozen face-to-face meetings with your ideal client profile.

You’re not getting paid to do paperwork, right? And that’s the number one complaint is, know, Oh, I got to mess around with this stupid, you know, CRM. If you have a virtual assistant in there or an assistant and EA, uh, they can do all that stuff. can voice record your notes, you know, send them to the EA. The EA can, you know, do what they need to do in order to get the, get in there. And so, yeah, those are, those are ways that you can really, really maximize the, the executive, uh, assistance or the VA.

Great points and perfect examples there. Now let’s circle back and hit your fourth point that you like to share with people.

Yeah, think, you know, again, think of the first three hiring and onboarding is, is massive and having that locked down and tight is huge. The second one training your, your, team to execute the winning behaviors. That’s number two, three, managing your behaviors, not the numbers. When you’ve got those three, it’s literally just as simple as lather, rinse, repeat. If you’ve got those three, you will build a.

high performing sales team. know, it starts again with great recruiting, hiring and onboarding. But then it can’t end there. You’ve got to develop them, train them to execute, and then you manage them by, you know, hold them accountable to the execution of the winning behaviors. And if you do those three things, it’s literally just lather, rinse, repeat. You could build 10 teams doing exactly that formula.

over and over and over and over again. So it takes discipline. It takes consistency and it is a process, right? You’ve got to build that into your culture. But from a sales team point of view, if you build that into the, you know, the sales culture, you just, you can’t lose. As an entrepreneur, you’re going to succeed every time.

Now, shifting a little bit to like habits and leadership habits, as things continue to evolve in business today, what’s one leadership habit that you think separates the businesses that grow cleanly from the ones that might burn out?

think when you have a coaching culture, when the leaders adopt a coaching culture, I think that is the difference between the haves and the have-nots in the business world. Coaching, again, I define as helping someone take an existing skill and apply it better, more efficiently, and more effectively. Coaching is not training, and you’ve got to develop

because what happens in coaching is one-on-one training is a kind of a group event and there’s multiple people in there but coaching is one-on-one and it does involve a level of professional intimacy right you’ve got to be able to you know put on your coaching hat and you have to have immense trust because what happens it’s almost like Vegas what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas

What happens in coaching also stays in coaching and you can’t breach the coaching slash managing divide. You can’t do that. Like you can’t go, you said this in coaching and yell at them for something in a, you know, in a sales meeting that that is not allowed. So, you know, I train sales leaders, uh, you know, on how to set a coaching upfront contract.

Which is you know a whole different hat and you’ve got it. It takes it takes time. It takes trust It takes skill and coordination, but you’ve got to be able to suspend your positional authority as the boss Because now your coaching hat is on and the second thing is that you’ve got to give them permission to speak freely and then you’ve got to give them protection so we call it the three P’s you got to give them protection against reprisal for what they say in

The coaching session and you cannot break if you break that trust, it’s going to be impossible to get it back. So the answer to your question is, the best from the leadership point of view, the difference between the haves and the have nots, 100 % of the way is developing a coaching culture where your team, your players actually actively go, Hey, I’m struggling with this one piece in the sales.

I and then they set up a coaching, you know, coaching session and it’s it. You know that that’s the difference.

As we wrap up today, what is one piece of advice you would share with business leaders today that they can execute immediately to start seeing differences in their business?

You know, I think you’ve got to get away from the features and benefit trap. Every time I talk to business owners, I’m like, me something that is amazing about your company, and they will feature and benefit me to death. And the reality is that, think about it from a prospect’s point of view. If you’re a prospect, you don’t care about any of that stuff.

So your job is the you business owner is to create a culture where you You help your salespeople ask the right questions and figure out what’s the compelling? pain that your prospect would respond to first like and maybe There’s a fit maybe not but that’s that’s my actionable item stop pitching and start asking questions and gathering information

Awesome. Well, thank you so much for sharing your wisdom with our audience today. To everyone listening, this conversation really came down to sales, leadership, and coaching. It all comes back to showing up and actually executing these things. And that’s where most things break, not the ideas, not the strategy, it’s the follow through. The stuff that’s supposed to happen after the call, after the plan, after you’ve made that decision. And that’s why we built Workergenix. We have full-time, ultimate executive assistants who stay behind the scenes to make sure things keep moving consistently.

and without you having to chase it all down. If that’s the gap you’re feeling right now, head over to Workergenix.com. Appreciate you all being here and we’ll see you on the next one.

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At a certain stage, growth stops feeling like progress and starts feeling like pressure. Revenue is up. The team is larger. Opportunities are expanding. But execution still routes through the same place. The founder. The operator. The decision-maker.

Inbox volume increases. Follow-ups stack. Deals move slower than they should. And despite adding people, the system still depends on one node to keep everything moving.

This is where most operator-led businesses stall. Not from lack of opportunity. From constrained leadership bandwidth.

The Hidden Constraint

The constraint is not time. It is not talent. It is not even capital.

The constraint is being the execution hub.

When every decision, clarification, or follow-up loops back to the founder, the system cannot scale. It becomes reactive by design. Even strong teams underperform because they operate without true ownership. The leader remains the point of coordination, correction, and completion.

This creates three predictable issues:

• Decision fatigue from constant low-leverage inputs
• Execution drag from delayed handoffs and approvals
• Cognitive overload from tracking everything mentally

At that point, adding more people or tools does not solve the problem. It amplifies it. More inputs. More coordination. More noise.

The Operating Shift

The shift is not “delegation” in the traditional sense. It is ownership transfer through structured execution systems.

Delegation fails for experienced operators when it is treated as task assignment rather than system design. Simply handing off work without defining how it gets done, how it is tracked, and how quality is measured creates more friction than relief.

The principle is straightforward:

Leverage is created when execution continues without the leader’s direct involvement.

That requires three components:

1. Clearly defined workflows
2. Decision-making frameworks that remove ambiguity
3. Consistent follow-through that does not depend on reminders

Without those, the leader remains the fallback for everything.

Execution in Practice

There are several practical shifts embedded in this conversation that map directly to scaling discipline and operational leverage.

1. Breaking Work Into Discrete, Trainable Units

Most operators underestimate how much of their workload is undefined. Tasks live in their head. Decisions are made contextually. Processes are implied, not documented.

The correction is to break work into discrete, repeatable actions.

Instead of “manage deals,” it becomes:

• Update deal sheets
• Track follow-ups in CRM
• Coordinate communication with partners
• Maintain timeline checkpoints

This reduces cognitive load and enables clean handoffs. It also creates a foundation for execution systems that can scale.

2. Eliminating Re-Decisions Through Structure

One of the largest hidden drains on leadership bandwidth is re-deciding the same things repeatedly.

When processes are unclear, teams escalate decisions unnecessarily. When expectations are not documented, leaders re-explain standards. When workflows are inconsistent, execution varies.

Structured systems eliminate this.

Checklists. SOPs. Defined communication loops.

Not as bureaucracy. As a way to remove variability and preserve decision-making capacity for higher-value work.

This is where decision-making frameworks become critical. They allow teams to operate within boundaries instead of waiting for instructions.

3. Separating Value Creation From Task Execution

Early in a career, value is tied to output. Time at the desk equals productivity.

At scale, that model breaks.

The highest-leverage activities are no longer task-based. They are strategic:

• Capital allocation
• Relationship development
• Opportunity identification
• High-level decision-making

When leaders stay embedded in execution, they trade these high-value activities for low-leverage tasks.

This is not a time issue. It is a value misalignment.

Operational leverage comes from shifting focus to activities that expand capacity, not consume it.

4. Maintaining Execution Through Consistent Oversight, Not Constant Involvement

A common failure point in delegation is the assumption that once something is handed off, it is “done.”

Execution systems require ongoing visibility.

Not micromanagement. Structured check-ins. Measurable outputs. Clear expectations.

The principle is simple:

What gets measured gets maintained.

Reducing involvement does not mean removing oversight. It means replacing reactive intervention with proactive structure.

This is particularly relevant for distributed teams and remote support. Without clear communication systems, performance drifts. Not from lack of capability, but from lack of alignment.

Leverage Outcome

When these shifts are implemented, the result is not just time savings. It is expanded capacity.

Leaders regain control over:

• Decision pace
• Execution consistency
• Strategic focus

Follow-ups happen without prompting. Projects move without constant supervision. Communication becomes structured instead of reactive.

This creates a different operating environment.

Instead of managing tasks, the leader manages outcomes.

Instead of reacting to inputs, they direct priorities.

Instead of being the bottleneck, they become the multiplier.

This is the difference between growth that feels heavy and growth that compounds.

Connect With the Guest

To learn more about Jens Nielsen and their work:
Website:https://jensnielsen.us/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenswnielsen/

The Immediate Move

Leadership bandwidth is the limiting factor in scaling. Not effort. Not hours.

Without structure, more work simply increases pressure. With structure, execution continues without constant intervention.

The immediate move is to identify where ownership has not been fully transferred.

Where are decisions still routing back to you?
Where are follow-ups dependent on your memory?
Where is execution inconsistent without your involvement?

Replace effort with systems. Replace oversight with clarity. Replace involvement with ownership.

This is how you reduce cognitive load, increase decision speed, and scale without becoming the constraint.

Watch this before you hire your next support role.

Full Podcast Transcript

All right, have you ever hit that point where the money’s working, the career looks solid, but your time still isn’t yours? That’s the tension we’re digging into today on the Scale Smart Grow Fast podcast, because real leverage isn’t just financial, it’s control. And inside Workergenics, we see it constantly. Leaders stuck as the execution bottleneck until an ultimate executive assistant steps in and brings real consistency to how things actually get done. Today’s guest, Jens, made that shift himself.

from decades in IT to building a multi-state real estate portfolio, and now helping other operators level up how they think and perform. Let’s get into it. Yans, welcome to the podcast. Give our audience today a little background about yourself and what brought you to what you’re doing today.

Yeah, thanks, Harley. appreciate it. I, well, first of all, I came to the United States 30 years ago as a young man looking for adventure and started out on the East coast in Maryland, did the typical, you know, got my education, went to college and undergrad and graduate degree in computer science, and then worked, you know, a long career in different companies from

startups to large corporations, to local governments, to Native American tribes, slowly moved west. 20 years ago, we moved to New Mexico. So I’ve lived in New Mexico and Colorado for the last 20 years. Still in IT, stayed in telecommunication IT my whole career. It was great. But in my mid-forties, I realized that something needed to change. I didn’t want to spend the next 20 years working for somebody else.

And then that led to an interest in investing in real estate. So we started investing in apartments like 10 years ago, smaller deals in New Mexico. And then that scaled up to a multi-state portfolio of properties from four units to 200 plus units and so on and warehousing and everything else.

I still do that, but then about five years ago, six years ago when I quit my W2 job, I also started coaching and mentoring because that was really a passion of mine to help the next generation of entrepreneurs.

Awesome, well, I appreciate you sharing that background. I’m sure there were a lot of lessons learned along the way. Hopefully we can dig into some of those. one question I had to start out with is that you probably hit a point where things were maybe looking successful on paper, but the time still didn’t feel like it was yours. Was there a specific moment in your journey where you realized doing everything yourself wasn’t sustainable anymore?

Yeah. You know, I know you traveled too, right? And one of reasons why I wanted to kind of start the real estate investing was to try to decouple my time from my income and so on. Right. So started traveling, but then I’m still sitting on, you know, calls with, with partners and clients. I was like, man, what am I doing? I’m in Spain here to try to ride my bike, but I’m still on calls trying to run the business and so on. that’s

That didn’t really sit that well for me, with me because you hey, yeah, I don’t mind working, but also when I’m off, I need to have the freedom to not work so hard.

What kind of actions did you take to start freeing yourself up and making it so you could really enjoy your time in the moment when you were doing things like bicycling in Spain?

Yeah. Yeah. First, the first was like, so when we were structuring these, when we were structuring real estate deals initially, were like, you know, we can manage them and manage, but I’m not saying property manage, but we can like asset manage them, you know, remotely. That’s just pretty straightforward, blah, blah, blah. It turned out to be very, very hard actually. It was not really, it’s not easy to actually manage these properties remotely and so on. So the first thing was to start hiring actually.

asset managers, know, people that were hired to do that, that work. So we weren’t, you know, trying to make decisions thousands of miles away about, know, should we, you know, very specific details stuff around that. So that was one, one aspect to start getting out of it. Right. And then the other thing was, you know, I used to see from the W2 world, I used to see my, my value as sitting at the desk doing work, right. That’s how you get paid.

So I had a really hard time separating the fact that, if I’m not at my desk, nothing gets done, right? That was the mindset I had. And that really had to shift because first of all, right, if you buy real estate, well, you shouldn’t have to be in there every single day doing the work because then you’re doing something wrong. And then really starting building the right systems and processes so that the people on the ground, the property managers, the asset managers could…

do most of it without having our direct day-to-day involvement with it. So I think that was really the starting point where I started to shift out of this, hey, time for money to mindset.

Yeah, I appreciate that mindset discussion. think a lot of people across the spectrum of industries and businesses, when they go from like solopreneur or employee to like solopreneur and then start having team members, they can have some guilt or maybe subconscious guilt about, you know, having people work while they’re enjoying life. What kind of mindset shifts like or practices or thoughts helps you kind of get over that and realize that it’s okay, you’re, you know, you’re helping these people and life can go on.

Yeah, it has to do with, you know, the value you adding, right? Is your value just your time and there’s no leverage? That’s low value, low skills, low pay kind of work, right? My value is leveling up and bigger strategic, you know, finding investors for our next deal, know, managing or, you know, raising money and finding the next deal and big relationships and so on. And, you know,

I couldn’t do that 20 30 years ago, cause I was just starting out of my career. Now I can. And separating the fact that, the people that are early on in their career, they may have to do that hard work that I did 20, 30 years ago to kind of level up. So I think it’s just realizing where is your biggest value. And for me, it’s absolutely going out there and working on relationships and so on. Right. And it may seem, I mean, it may seem,

Easy, I don’t know if that’s the right word, but it may seem like I’m not working in the same sense, right? But you know, creating relationships and maintaining them, that’s a lot of, that takes effort and time and being in the right rooms as well.

sure. Now as you’re working with other operators today and you see the growth that’s happening in their organizations, what areas in their businesses and operations do you see costing them a lot of focus and time, maybe even trust within their teams?

I think most, most businesses or small businesses, they go from, you know, the solo entrepreneur, somebody has an idea, they start a business and then they start hiring. They never learn how to replace themselves. Right. They just become, as you started out with the bottleneck because they never learn how to actually delegate and leveling up their team and training and so on. Right. So the, I work with anybody, it’s always like, okay, what are you doing? What is the low value?

low pay things that you’re doing that absolutely 100 % should be, you know, hired out for immediately. And you just step out of the way, right? You create a process, a system. I I have have a client who owns a small bakery here. She was in there baking cookies and cakes every day. was like, okay, this is, this is not going to work. Right. So she, she knows you made, it’s like, okay. Because she was so, she was so afraid that the product was not going to be at the qualities she wanted. So after we, you know, okay.

Write out the recipe, train your people on it, and then just do quality control and see if they do a good job. And if they don’t, you correct. So Ziu was able to get out of that, right? And then, you know, it’s just like, I don’t even show up in the shop anymore because I’m like the hood ornament here, right? So that’s kind of the level you want to get to. just get, get out of your own way, right? I think that’s the biggest challenge, but also where you leverage really, you can start leveraging yourself and your team much more.

If someone is kind of in that messy middle and they are trying to just like get out of the way, what are some like mental blocks that you often see people have in getting out of the way and how do you help them overcome those?

Well, the biggest mental block people have is that nobody can do it as well as I can. Right. Nobody is so as good as I am. I totally had that too, when I was moved into management in the IT because like, you know, they can’t do it as well. So that’s the biggest mental block. And I always tell people that, okay, think back, you know, when you started in this career and this business, you probably weren’t very good at it, but somebody was helped you to grow, helped you to.

rise up or you took the training or whatever that is. So put yourself in that earlier version of yourself and have that same patience that somebody had with you with your employee now. And say, okay, it’s okay if they make some mistakes. It’s okay if things are a little bit slower. This is just the nature of human evolution. We got to learn it. We got to grow. We got to go through it.

And, know, be a mentor, be a, be a coach, be a supporter of your team versus that critic versus that, you can’t do it well enough. Let me just do it myself type, type attitude, right? That’s really what I think is so important.

I love that you brought that up because I see this a lot with virtual staffing agency. People come in and oftentimes they have this expectation that an executive assistant is somehow going to just like replace them. And it’s not like that with any employee. In fact, most entrepreneurs cannot just replace themselves. What you kind of alluded to here is you find like specific roles and, you know, break out the pieces that you’re doing and then you hire for those. What are some like methods or,

I guess systems that you kind of coach people on to help identify where they can break out responsibilities and start hiring and start getting out of the way in those areas rather than just like replacing themselves all at once.

Yeah. No, and I’ve had that same challenge there, hiring your VAs and it’s like, well, they should figure it out. It’s all, it’s easy, right? Well, obviously it isn’t. So what I tend to do, you know, it starts with, if I’m working with an owner that needs to start hiring and growing their team, it’s always, let’s just start with the beginning. What are the tasks you’re doing all week? Right? Let’s say you are the baker owner. How much time are you?

Spending on baking cookies and cakes and staffing the front and everything else running to the store. Let’s just break it down and figure out what are all the different tasks that you’re doing. And what are the, and then start with what are the easiest ones. So what are the ones that are easy to train that you hate doing, right? Let’s get those off your plate first. Now, of course that’s a physical thing. It’s a little hard to do remotely, but let’s say, you know, you’re more of a knowledge worker or have a business that that’s not a physical location, right? Just get those.

Simple things that are discrete, repeatable, you don’t like doing, right? So that could be, you know, your social media stuff. could be, you know, customer outreach or prospect outreach, all these different things, but be very specific about what it is and make it discrete and also easy to train. So you can say, okay, here’s how you do it, right? And then you check on it. And I really struggle with that too.

in my W-2 career, because I was like, well, you know, I have smart employees, why can’t they figure it out? Well, because they were much younger in their career and they hadn’t had that growth themselves. So I just had to have patience, train them and so on. Right. I think this morning I’m meeting with my assistant for, for an hour. She’s fairly new. So we’re to really, you know, work on training her up in some of those key things. And in the past, I didn’t have that and I just got irritated and would fire them again. Right. So that’s a learning lesson for me.

Now, one thing that we implement with our clients is providing them with a 30, 60, 90 onboarding plan. So based on the consult call and then discussions that we have with the client about the responsibilities we’re handing off, we’ll help them with making that plan. So they have a clear path to success of like, here’s what you’re handing off in the first 30, then the next 30, and the next 30. And we found that tremendously changes the mindset and the success rate because both sides of the equation, you know, the employee and the

the leader know what’s expected and it’s not this just mass, like here’s everything at once, figure it out, like you mentioned. So I really appreciate you pointing that out. The next question I wanted to ask you was more of like the results. So when you’re working with people and they start handing things off, they’ve delegated, they’ve gotten themselves out of the bottleneck, you know, in addition to just like having the time that they used to be doing free, what are some of the other results you see, whether it’s like, you know, mindset shifts or, you know, what are they doing with that time and how is it impacting their

their happiness and also their business success.

Yeah, I think it’s important as you start handing over what’s the, why are you doing that? Right. You know, because there are people that are solo entrepreneurs that are totally happy doing that. So if you start handing stuff over, is it because you want more time? So you can, you know, do other, other activities or it’s because you want to grow your business. Right. Be very clear on that. The reason why, why, and for most people it’s because they want to grow their business. Right. They want to have.

a business that can function without them and they can truly grow. Um, you know, so I always think about that and say, okay, so if you don’t have to do all these tasks, you don’t want to do, what are you going to focus on? Is it, know, creating new relationships, raising money, new product lines, whatever, or I said, Hey, I just want to work, you know, a few hours a week and the rest of the time, I just want to do my hobbies and so on. That’s totally fine, but be clear on what it is. So you don’t.

Because if people start getting bored, they will just start feeling that David mean, you know, meaningless stuff and they’re just haven’t really won anything. Now they have an assistant to do stuff and they just trying to keep themselves busy by doing things that doesn’t make any sense. Right. So when I’m coaching people, I’m always, okay, you know, what is that? What is the idea life that you’re trying to create here? And let’s make sure that the stuff you can pull the stuff away from you that doesn’t serve you. And you can focus on what’s really going to push you forward.

Absolutely. And when you’re working with people or you’re kind of observing other businesses, what are a few signals that you look for to know that things are working and the leader is actually getting their time back? Sorry, I’m going to… My alarm just went off. Start that question over again. So, when you’re looking with working with people and you’re observing their businesses, what are some signals that you look for to know things are working and the leader is actually getting their time and clarity back?

When I see growth, right? If the goal is growth and I start seeing there is new growth, you know, they’re adding new product lines, they are, or they’re expanding their revenue and so on, right? That’s a pretty obvious thing to measure. But also I would also listen for more subtle clues. Like, you know, I, I was able to, yeah, here’s an example, right? So I work with some real estate agents and stuff and when they can start like not working every single weekend,

they can go on trips with their spouses or they can do other things. I start seeing those shifts, right? Because all the things that they said, I want to try, I want to, know, just go on trips. So I want to go to the gym. want to whatever. When I start seeing that that’s happening, I know that, that it’s working. there’s two, there’s they get their personal, they get their personal time back and they can do someone things. And at the same time, if they can start growing their business, which tends to happen, right? We think that.

We just work harder, things will grow, but we just tend not burning us, burning ourselves out. If we step back, we create space, we get some time to get away and so on. Then the energy is there to take things to the next level.

Yeah, absolutely. Now, kind of as we go to the next level and teams are growing, business is going well, they have that growth. What breaks down around ownership or communication that still catches leaders off guard and how do you help them fix it quickly?

Especially when you have, you know, if you have, executive assistants or VAs that are remote, they still, you know, they can’t read your mind, right? They can’t, they can’t see what’s going on. And if you fail, if you start, if you if you stop communicating well with them, you may run into performance starts dropping or you forget to pay attention to it. Right. And, and you’ll start seeing that where, you know, the the quality drops or.

you know, tasks doesn’t get completed. that’s because typically because the owner becomes complacent, like, I thought I had this solved, but you know, it’s an ongoing kind of involvement with, with your team and so on. Right. So if you just, if you think it’s set it and forget it, then you’re probably going to run into problems down the road. Right. You know, you gotta, you gotta stay on top of it. And it’s the old saying, you know, what, what, what gets measured, get done or whatever, something to that effect. Right. So stay on top of it.

And you know, maybe you don’t have to check in every day, but you can reduce your, your check-in frequency, but it has to still be, has to happen regularly anyway.

Yeah. Now, both of our backgrounds in technology, I have background in computer engineering, your background is computer science and IT. So I think, you know, technology is a big discussion right now across the board in businesses. You know, I’m curious what your take is or philosophy when it comes to, you know, deciding and helping coach business owners on what needs to be automated and leveraging technology versus, you know, what’s delegated and still have a human in the loop.

Yeah, it’s, fun. mean, I’m, I’m just having so much fun playing with Claude and Claude cowork and all these different things. Right. And there is it’s like, wow, it can do that. So there’s definitely a, there’s definitely some opportunity it is. And now the question is, do you have the, do you have the skills to actually truly implement the technology in your business? and can leverage that, right?

Or is it like, well, that’s, I can do it, but it’s going to take a lot of time. And then I have to manage the technology versus managing the people. Right. So it’s a little bit, it’s a little bit of an energy. It’s very full, put your energy on your focus, right? Because a human, you know, it’s easy to say, okay, this need to tweak a little bit or go do something else. You just tell the person, if you’ve designed all these fancy workflows, if they suddenly don’t support you anymore, you got to redesign them all. Right. So I’m.

I’m doing personally, I’m doing a mix. and to be honest, I mean, there’s certain things that I was like, wow, I don’t need my VA to do these things anymore. Cause now Claude can do it for me and so on. Right. So it’s, it’s, but then hopefully I can level her up to do other things that are at a higher level or maybe have her be the person that manages the technology and so on. Right. So I think you definitely as

As a small business owner, mean, there is some technology there you can use. only problem is, do you have the energy and the time to implement it yourself or do you need to go out there and hire agencies to do it? And suddenly the cost probably becomes pretty high and so on. So that’s a balance you have to really think about there.

Yeah. And we’ve observed in our businesses, like we really heavily leverage chat GPT early on, and we’re now being very disappointed by it. And we’re actually shifting focus to using Claude more for a lot of things. And a worry I personally have is, well, what’s the next thing? Are we going to invest all this time and effort getting switched over to Claude and its ecosystem? And then it kind of goes the way of chat GPT and something new comes. And that’s just, guess, the nature of the beast with technology, right?

Yeah, no it is. I mean, just, just out of, mean, you know, I was like the other day, I wanted to go back and look at all my clients and see, okay, who haven’t I spoken to or email for a while. And I said, go through my, go through my, my CRM for former clients, you know, figure out what the last we talked about draft an email for me and so on. Right.

That would have taken me hours to go through that and it would just process through and say, you know, Joe, you talked about blah, blah, blah. And it’s been a year. It’s like, okay, let’s email Joe and stuff like that. mean, things like that, which would be really time consuming for a human to do. It’s like, wow, this is amazing. Right. So there’s so many really cool things to do it, but you know, you know, I’m doing the same thing. I’m going from chat, GPT to cloud, because I feel like it has some functionalities that I like better, but you know, it could be replaced in two months. Who knows? Right.

Exactly. Well, Jens, it’s been an awesome conversation. If someone listening wants a quick win today, what’s one action they can take this afternoon that actually creates momentum for them in their business?

I would make a phone call or a text to somebody that can help grow your business to the next level.

Powerful. Get that leverage. And Jens, if someone wants to connect with you and go deeper on the topics we’ve discussed today, where should they start?

Just at my personal website, so it’s my first name J E N S and last name Nielsen N I E L S E N dot U S Jens Nielsen dot U S. There’s a, phone number on my email is on there. My link to book a call is on there. So that’s the best place to start.

Awesome. And to our audience, I think what really stands out from this conversation is the shift that Yen’s made going from chasing stability to actually designing a life with more control, more intention and real impact. And you can hear how that plays out, not just in investing, but in how leaders think and operate day to day. And because at the end of the day, most people don’t struggle with knowing what to do. It’s the follow through, it’s the execution. And that’s where things quietly break down. And that’s exactly where having the right support matters.

At Workergenics, our full-time ultimate executive assistants step in behind the scenes to keep things moving so you’re not the one holding everything together. If that’s something you’re feeling right now, you can check out workergenics.com and appreciate everyone listening today. We’ll see you all on the next one.

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At a certain stage, growth stops feeling like progress.

Revenue increases. Headcount expands. The business looks stronger from the outside. But internally, decision cycles slow down, follow-ups lag, and execution starts to stack up behind the owner.

Everything still routes through one person.

This is where most founder-led businesses begin to feel heavier instead of more efficient. Not because the business lacks opportunity, but because the operating model has not evolved with the scale.

The Hidden Constraint

The constraint is not capital. It is not market demand. And in most cases, it is not even talent.

The constraint is control.

More specifically, the owner remains the central decision engine. Authority is partially delegated, but accountability is not fully transferred. Systems exist, but they are not trusted. Processes are understood, but not externalized.

From the outside, it looks like a growing company. From the inside, it is still a centralized operation.

This creates three compounding risks:

• Execution bottlenecks that slow decision-making
• Operational drag from repeated approvals and rework
• Valuation compression due to owner dependency

As discussed in the panel, many owners believe they have delegated. In reality, the team is still waiting for signals, approvals, or direction before moving forward. That gap between perceived delegation and actual authority transfer is where leverage breaks.

The Operating Shift

The core operating principle is simple:

A business becomes transferable when decisions move without the owner.

This is not about stepping away entirely. It is about designing execution systems where ownership is clear, decisions are distributed, and outcomes do not depend on the founder’s presence.

Exit readiness is not a transaction milestone. It is an operating condition.

Leaders who understand this early begin to build differently. They focus less on output and more on how decisions move through the organization.

This is where operational leverage actually begins.

Execution in Practice

1. Authority Without Decision Rights Is Not Delegation

One of the most consistent patterns discussed was the illusion of delegation.

Owners assign responsibilities, but retain final decision control. Teams execute tasks, but hesitate to move independently. Meetings become performative, where participants look for cues from the owner before committing.

This creates a hidden approval loop.

The correction is not more communication. It is clearer decision ownership.

• Who owns the outcome
• Who makes the decision
• What thresholds trigger escalation

Without this clarity, execution systems fail under scale.

2. Systems Replace Memory, Not Judgment

A second constraint is the absence of structured execution systems.

Many businesses rely on institutional knowledge that lives in the owner’s head. Processes exist, but they are undocumented or inconsistently followed. This increases cognitive load and introduces variability into execution.

As highlighted in the discussion, businesses that lack SOPs and repeatable systems are not transferable. Not because they are unprofitable, but because they are unpredictable.

Execution systems serve three purposes:

• Reduce decision fatigue
• Standardize outcomes
• Enable ownership transfer

The goal is not rigidity. It is consistency under pressure.

3. Value Is Defined by the Buyer, Not the Owner

Another key insight is the gap between perceived value and market value.

Owners often evaluate their business based on effort, history, or personal significance. Buyers evaluate based on predictability, scalability, and risk.

This creates a mismatch.

A business that generates income for the owner does not automatically translate into a transferable asset. Value is determined by:

• Stability of revenue
• Independence from the owner
• Clarity of systems and reporting

This is where capital allocation and risk management intersect. A buyer is not purchasing effort. They are acquiring a system that can continue without disruption.

If that system does not exist, value is discounted.

4. Exit Is Not Just a Transaction, It’s a Transition

A less discussed but critical point is what happens after the exit.

Many owners optimize for deal terms without considering post-exit reality. Earnouts, advisory roles, or employment agreements often look attractive financially but introduce constraints operationally and personally.

This becomes a misalignment between financial optimization and personal outcome.

Leaders who approach exit with clarity on what comes next tend to make better decisions earlier. They build businesses that give them options, not obligations.

This is a form of risk management that extends beyond the balance sheet.

Leverage Outcome

Operational leverage is not created by working longer hours or increasing output.

It is created by removing the owner as the bottleneck.

When execution systems are in place, decision-making is distributed, and ownership is clearly defined, the business gains capacity without increasing complexity.

This results in:

• Faster decision cycles
• Reduced operational friction
• Improved capital efficiency
• Higher transferability

Most importantly, it protects leadership bandwidth.

The owner is no longer required to be the center of execution. They can shift focus toward capital allocation, strategic direction, and long-term positioning.

That is where real leverage lives.

Connect With the Panelists

To learn more about the panelists and their work:

Jerome Myers
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeromemyers/

Samir Mokashi
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samir-mokashi-cepa%C2%AE-m-arch-ar-a3825712/

Asa Patterson
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/retirementbankbuilder/

The Immediate Move

If the business still depends on you to move forward, you do not have a scaling problem. You have an execution design problem.

The priority is not adding more people or working harder. It is restructuring how decisions are made and how ownership is transferred.

Clarify decision rights. Build systems that reduce re-decisions. Remove yourself from the approval chain where it is no longer required.

Leadership bandwidth is the limiting resource.

Protect it by building structure, not by increasing effort.

Watch this before you hire your next support role.

Full Podcast Transcript

Hey everybody, welcome back to the Scale Smart Grow Fast podcast. This is the Workergenics Executive Edge Live. I’m Harley Green, founder and CEO of Workergenics. And at Workergenics, we help high performing leaders reclaim their time and stay focused on what actually matters, supported by our ultimate executive assistance. Executive Edge Live is one way that we support the broader business community.

bringing together operators and advisors and experts to talk through what is actually working inside growing companies. Today’s conversation is from owner led to exit ready. A lot of businesses grow, but they’re still heavily dependent on the owner.

decisions bottleneck, follow up stall, the business moves, but only when the owner is pushing it. That becomes a real problem, not just for scaling, but for transition, succession, or exit. So today is really about what it takes to build a company that can run without you, grow beyond you, and eventually transfer without friction. And a quick note before we jump in, this session is going to be featured on our podcast, Scale Smart, Grow Fast. So if something resonates with you, you’ll be able to revisit it there. Let’s get into it and meet our

panelists today. We’re going to go around and give everyone a chance to introduce themselves and let’s start with you.

Hey everybody, Jerome Myers. I’m founder of Exit to Excellence. We are a full service exit planning company or exit strategy company that leads with personal planning. So our focus is on helping the founder optimize for post exit fulfillment versus optimizing for their transaction.

Thank you. Sameer.

Thanks. So my main company is the Business Millionaire Club. I recently published a book called The Millionaire Exit. And the whole point of writing the book was I found a lot of the business entrepreneurs I was mentoring did not have a good idea how to grow a business and did not know how to exit the business. So my book origin started as growing the business. And then by the time it finished, was focusing on exiting the business. I helping multiple businesses right now in different stages.

Some are taking to the acquisition right now, some are already early on, and it’s a very, very exciting part of my life right now.

Very nice, thank you. And Asa, that, make sure you’re pronouncing, I’m pronouncing your name correctly. Asa, very good.

Long A, Asa, thank you. Yes, I’m the founder CEO of the retirement bank method, and we focus on helping baby boomer business owners turn their business into a retirement bank. My background is in the financial industry, private wealth management. And we just see that a lot of baby boomer business owners. That’s why I’m so excited about the show. Harley just don’t have the systems and tools in place to exit. And there are other ways to exit a business besides selling.

So we help people through the retirement bank method build a retirement bank.

Thank you all for introducing yourselves. Let’s just go ahead and open this up to the group here. The first question I have for everyone is a lot of owners say, I’ll figure out exit later. What usually happens when they take that approach?

Yes.

I can take that question. think most commonly somebody who says I’ll figure out exit later, they don’t even know what exit means to them and how to exit. And they immediately assume that, I’ve built a business, I’m making money, so it’s valuable. People will offer money for it right away and I’ll have a lineup of that. So that’s the first thing that just like starting a business, exiting the business takes time, effort and planning.

That’s also man sitting based on my experience. A lot of times that answer comes from not really understanding the question. What I’ve learned is to slow down and just ask a lot more questions to help them understand what exit the business could mean, what that could look like. And sometimes we have to come back later and then engage with them and ask that question where they can answer it after some thought. They’ve I found that they’ve had a lot of thought processes about it, but really aren’t clear on what it means.

So it’s just amazing how what we found slowing down helps them speed up a little bit.

From my perspective, people who think about exit later set themselves up for a business that’s going to be less valuable. And if they do successfully exit, they are going to be disappointed with what happens on the backside of that transfer from business owner to exative owner.

Most people think the transaction, we call it a transaction illusion, they think that the transaction solves a bunch of problems. And while it may deliver some financial relief, it creates all types of other problems that money can’t solve.

Thank you guys. Great intro here. A lot of good things to think about. Now, moving a little bit to a trade-off question for everybody. What is one decision you see owners delay that you know would move them closer to being exit-ready?

One of the things I see consistently is I work with a lot of small to mid-sized businesses and they consistently are very owner centric businesses. They think they have delegated, but they don’t really delegate authority of making decisions. Everybody’s still waiting for the owner to make the final decision. They’re looking for visual cues in the meeting to see the owner is nodding, things like that. And that reduces the value of the company to the potential buyer.

So getting the owners ready to really hand over authority and trusting the people they have around them and coaching the people around them to really grow to take on leadership is the one blind spot I see over and over again.

Hey, Harley, could you repeat the question for me?

Yeah, absolutely. So we’re asking about delaying. what is the decision that you see owners delay that you know would move them closer to being exit ready?

For me, it’s letting the team, letting the staff know that they’re ready to exit. So many business owners in my experience attempt to sell their business or exit of their business and they don’t want anyone to know. It’s like, shh, don’t tell anyone. Well, you have to let everyone in the business know, your entire staff has to know for multiple reasons. But the main thing is, do they want to stay? Right? And are they open to working with a new owner or

do they possibly wanna buy it? So not having that question, delaying, being open and honest with that question really hurts them and hurts the entire process from being able to move forward very smoothly.

My perspective is knowing what they want to do next. I find that owners who have no idea of what they’re exiting to spend more time holding on or clinging to the business that they’re exiting from.

And if there’s something they’re excited about working on and they’re interested in, they’re more interested in that than the business they already have, they tend to not sabotage the exit. And they’re openly looking for ways to make themselves irrelevant in the business that they’re currently in.

I like to talk to Jerome, postpartum is very serious when it comes to women who had children, but it’s just as serious when it comes to business owners. This is their identity, this is their life, and that is a big challenge as well. The identity crisis that they go through as a result of the idea of moving away. I’ve talked to lot of owners that…

One owner told me that there’s a funeral company in this city is very popular. He named the company and he says, they know when they get the call on me, either to pick me up at home or pick me up here in the business. Right. So that is their identity. Right. So that’s the biggest challenge we face as well. Just not knowing that there is a life outside of what you’ve been doing for so long. They’ve convinced themselves in my opinion that they don’t want to have a life outside the business.

not worth it.

Hmm.

I’d love to take it a step deeper on this topic here and maybe from your guys’ experience, what are some practical tips that you share with people you work with to help them prepare for that? Like give them ideas of what life could be like without the business, get some inspiration. If they are in that situation where they just don’t know what they would do afterwards, then they might be self-sabotaging.

Right, right. For me, it is a longer process. Let’s say a home, a business owner calls a broker. They may have been thinking about selling their business for three, four or five years and the broker is just getting involved. So I like to have a lot of touch points and a lot of dreaming conversations to help them.

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step outside of themselves. One of my main things I’ll say, Hey, Harley, if you had a magic wand and this magic wand can control your next two to three years, what would you, what would you do? And, that helps open them up a little bit, but I do a lot of hypothetical dreaming and forward pacing with them to help them begin to see what possibilities are.

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I work with a lot of professional businesses. So many of them come with an idea that this is what they want to do, but it is not a fully baked idea. And their presumption, oftentimes is, okay, I will sell the business today and from tomorrow, my next career will start. And when you started the business, you were in the career building a credibility until you got to that point.

Right. So, so how are you going to do that? the, so, so connecting the dots and thinking about how to strategize, how to evolve, you need to establish your, your community before you exit. You need to let people know that this is what you’re going to do before you exit in order to, and even after exit, there is such a draining emotional drain after the exit. People don’t account for that. There’s a lot of emotional things that happen right after the exit. There’s a, there’s a gap that you feel you can’t just fill it with something else.

that you said, I’m just going to volunteer and do it. Yes, eventually, yes. But right after exit, there is a lot of emotional ups and downs, challenges, even going through the exit, just like any project. When you come to the end of the project, you have regrets like, but they charged me so much. this is so much taxes. I didn’t think we had to pay all of this planning when you do it at the last minute and you’re hurrying around trying to get to an end and then send me a beginning has to happen. It is.

very hard. And that’s the part that we help prepare. And a lot of times when I went through, I exited my business as well and did very well, but realized that the broker is there just for the transaction. Who’s there for the owner? And that’s where I come in is that’s where was my passion is I want to help other owners understand the process, get the rewards of all the hard work they’re putting in and get it because nobody tells you how to do it well.

It was says, you’re you’re an entrepreneur. You must be a millionaire. Very few actually end up becoming millionaire or managing money enough to stay millionaires. Right. So so those kind of things about how to be successful and how to be well off is is is two different things. And making that connection, helping the emotional, financial and just the intellectual need to be satisfied is a complex process. And I share a Jerome and Issa about

hits different aspects of them. This is what I come in to do, but I often rely on people like Jerome and Esa to help them post it. I stay in the more in the transaction phase, preparing them, I finding the right partners for them to identify and work with them and get a team around them as they move on. You can remain a loner, right? So you need a team as you go past it. And who is that team? What is the right team for you? Those kinds of things is what I work with quite a bit.

Since I’m the last one to go, Harley, I’m going to adjust the question just a little bit. And I’m going to answer the question of what will we encourage them, like the frame for them to look through as they’re figuring out what post-exit life looks like. I think a whole lot of people can understand this concept of it’s hard to read a label if you’re inside the jar.

And that’s exactly where the founder is. They’re inside the jar and they’re trying to figure out like, what else can these skills, relationships, abilities that I have be used for? How can I be used for or helpful? And for the people who are like, pick me up at my desk. They’ve decided that that’s all that they’re useful for. And so from our perspective, it’s probably self-serving because we’ve built a process around it. We encourage people to go through a guided.

phase of understanding themselves again. It includes assessments, includes interviews, and they end up with what we call the freedom compass, where it orients them for what life looks like post-sex, and not just how are you going to spend the day, because most people don’t know how they’re going to do that, but how do you actually show up in the world? How do you introduce yourself? Are you going to introduce yourself as the person that

exited ex company, well, you’re just like hanging on to the wreckage of the ship that crashed against the island when you exited. So like, who are you actually and what relationships are most important? And how do you actually spend that 406080 hours a week that you were working like, those are questions that show up as experience. And

You can’t fully understand the gravity of it until you exit. But if you do some planning prior to, you’re not trying to make those decisions and figure those things out in what we call the descent window.

And this is where you’ve got more resources than you’ve ever had, but you’ve got limited capacity because you’re fatigued from the journey of exiting. And we find people make really poor decisions in that window. And so we believe in planning before you actually summit so that when you’re coming down, you have an idea of what to expect. And then if you don’t like it, you can adjust off of that. But trying to figure it out with no plan, I think, is a recipe for disaster.

sure these are some great points here and Asa I wanted to ask you we talked about you know what people are preparing for in advance but what are some signals or what are the clearest signs that you see when you’re working with someone that they still just have a job with overhead versus a business as a like saleable asset?

Right. Going into the business, we have an assessment when we go in and they answer that when we’re coming in. But the main thing is who’s in charge of the process, who’s in charge of the customer, who’s in charge of billing. And those main things, those three points right there really help us understand exactly where they are. We’ve had a gentleman who opens his business and closes his business, and he’s been doing that for 40 years. And what we’ve found is that

So many entrepreneurs and business owners of multiple millions of annual revenue have drank the Kool-Aid. When I say that, mean, they have bought into the idea that you leave, become an entrepreneur, you’re a individualist, and you do this on your own. Jerome said it. It’s a team sport.

Right. And you have to surround yourself with people that are going to do the processes and do the things that you want. But the main thing we see is that they don’t have any SOPs, no systems in place, no oversight, no checks and balances. I’m a retired Marine captain. And over the years, I’ve learned to go into the business with less of a military stature. But the checks still are there. You you have to understand.

the entire process and most business owners do understand the processes, but it’s all in their head. The Marine Corps has SOPs for SOPs and SOP to understand the standard operating procedure. And it’s like that because if we have to go into a combat situation, those SOPs are there so that they become second nature.

so that it becomes a muscle memory when you go into the situation in a combat situation. So I take that same kind of idea into the business environment and really help the business owners start seeing the trees instead of being in the forest.

But we really focus on helping them understand the system and the need for the system and began walking that in place. I’m so grateful for AI and how it’s advanced. It’s really helped my process working with business owners, develop those SOPs and put them in place in a much simpler fashion where they’re not as frustrated because the process prior to AI was a long, arduous process. Yeah.

I work with businesses that are not kind of standard businesses that most brokers go after. I find those unique businesses. And those businesses are the ones that often have a challenging situation. And one is understanding the business, but two is understanding value to somebody else and helping the business owner understand what is it that you have that is valuable to somebody else.

Right.

See, that’s the challenge that they often do. This is they see their value from their eyes, but not from somebody else’s value. So oftentimes, there’s a business I’m working with, but I’m looking at it, there is no value to sell a business to somebody else. But if somebody is interested in the regular income, and they have a systematic approach, they can make a regular income for not a very big involvement or effort.

helping that client. For most clients, I’m saying, okay, you find the next team you can hand over to. In this client, I’m not helping them find the next owner, next person to buy it or run it. I’m asking them to make it a definitive systematic approach that you do X, you do Y, you do Z, and then you get this revenue per month. And then the book of clients that you have potentially becomes the value based on demonstrated consistent income.

Yeah, you’re not going to make a lot of money. And these are people who are not wanting to take a lot of risk, but they still put an effort and they can get value back out of it. So understanding from each business’s perspective, what the value to bring. Some businesses are valuable because they were valuable 20 years ago, but the time has changed. So what do you bring? And sometimes you have to sit down and give them the hard truth that your business is not valuable 10 years from today. So what you have today.

If you wait for 10 years, would be less. So you might want to change your business or sell your business or something else. So that’s the hard discussions that I come with clients just because of my background, understanding what it took to build a business, understanding what it took to build a sustainable business and what it took to build a business that is valuable to somebody else. So all these different aspects are important part of getting the owner ready to understand what is it that they have. It’s like…

When you do investments, if you just put in the bank, you get this. If you put in the mutual funds, you get this. If you invest in stock, you get this. But there is different risks, right? There’s different amount of effort you put into this. And what do you get as a guarantee at the end of two years, three years is different depending on what is it that you have and what is it somebody else wants. So that whole perspective of framing the value becomes important.

great points.

Yeah, I find most people that help with transactions see it as a marketing problem and understanding the market conditions. I watch some founders who believe that there’s going to be a line wrapped around the door for people that are interested in their business. And the fact of the matter is only two out of eight that get listed get sold successfully.

And so this expectation that there’s going to be a lot of people that are interested in a business if it’s not properly set up for exit is a notion that is inaccurate at best. And then the other thing that shows up that is a big challenge for me is people think that they get the exit on their timeline. It’s like, I’m an exit in five years or 10 or three. But the reality is like,

75 % of businesses, business exits are from death, disease, divorce, or burnout. And so if one of those four things happen, it probably wasn’t by their choice and it was probably unplanned.

And so as a general rule, having an exit ready business is just a good business strategy and not something that you should plan multiple years or say you shouldn’t worry about because it’s multiple years away because it could be unfortunately tomorrow.

Yeah.

That’s a really good point. And Asa, I appreciate how you brought up the SOPs. That’s something at Workergenics we’re just like really huge on making sure all of our EAs that get placed with clients are trained on making really crystal clear and repeatable SOPs so that they can come in and help take that burden off their clients. Because that’s one thing that most founders just really do not want to do is document what they’ve been doing. And so I always recommend people just, hey, the next time you’re doing that thing that you don’t want to do anymore, record yourself doing it.

Right.

say you can do it with so many AI tools now and then let that EA come in, watch the video and leverage AI tools to make a beautiful SOP and then they can handle it for you. So appreciate you bringing that point up. The next question I want to jump to is getting into that topic of value and money. Obviously that’s a big part of the discussion when people are selling their business. Where do you see owners leaving the most money on the table when it’s time to exit?

Hmm.

Very interesting question.

a couple areas, improper tax planning, know, taxes takes a big hit and the thought process that they weren’t going to be taxed as heavily as they were, right? So there’s so many ways of exiting the business and structuring it precisely for maximizing the code to the benefit of the seller. And I think a lot of owners,

miss that due to the time crunch of wanting to sell it and just the exhaustion of what it takes to get brought up to speed on understanding that process. know, so many business owners are just in their business, but it’s so much more to being successful at what they do. So that’s one of the main challenges that I see is just helping them understand, hey, please understand these things so that they can understand how to minimize their taxes. The other thing is,

What caused them to leave so much money on the table, in my opinion, is not having the advisors around them to help them understand what we’re doing for them. That’s just really painful in my experience is, you know, we know how to help them get from where they are to where they say they want to be, but they have to understand it and be willing, a willing participant in it. And so I’ve been, if anyone can bring up something on helping us understand how to help this seller.

have some advisors around them so that they can understand the process more, that would be great because that would help tremendously minimize the amount of money that they’re leaving on the table.

I think I would go do the same thing. I was just going through my mind. There’s so many different places that you leave money on the table. And I think the biggest mistake is not having the right advisor. And even when we were, I was a consultant and I would hire good consultants, not just the cheapest consultant. And I said a good consultant, it’s worth their money, their weight in gold, right? So a good consultant can make a big difference. And I’ll give you examples. I was thinking that

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you have to find the buyer who has money and who thinks the business is valuable to get the right value. So and any buyer coming in is going to not offer you full price. And if you don’t know how to negotiate, you’re not going to get there. Even before you get to the point, if you don’t know how to present the value that you have in your business to the buyer, the buyer is not going to see it as clearly. So they’re going to make their decision. So there’s so many things a consultant does that is not

something an owner understands or appreciates and leaves millions on the table. So there’s even saving money in the transactions as Asa pointed out in taxes, setting it up for your children, for their taxes down the road, right? So all kinds of things are part of them leaving money on the table and somebody who knows of how all connect all the dots together and may not be an expert in all areas, but knows how to connect all the dots and has the right experts around them to connect the dots.

It is way more complex than owner thinks it is. They just think you go to the bank and you cash the check. It is not like that at all.

My thoughts on money on the table. When yeah, I’ll just go with what I initially thought. We don’t focus on money that’s left on the table because we’re not optimizing for that. We’re optimizing for post-access fulfillment. And so I watch founders over and over say, I’m a do an earn out because it’s going to give me 20 % more money.

And they agree to do something for two to five years. And six months into that agreement, they realized that they hate the company that they’re working for. They don’t like what the company is doing with the company that they sold to them. And being an employee and getting time off approved and expense reports done is not something that they ever thought that they would be doing after 30 years of running their own company.

So our conversation is very much about what do you want life to be like after you exit and making the decisions on the front end that don’t encumber that. That to me is so much more important than an extra 20 % on an earn out, because you obligate yourself to do things that you don’t want to do.

If done well, right, if you have an eight figure exit and you truly become work optional, I think the money becomes very irrelevant at that point. if you get extra two million on 10, I’m not sure that it changes what you do in your life.

some great observations and points. love the perspective, you know, all different angles here of the, not just the capital that we’re dealing with, it’s the individuals and what their values are and what they want to do with their time. Now, kind of a forward looking question here is a company is growing, let’s say, going from like a $5 million to a $20 million and beyond company. What are some changes that they need to look at to become non-negotiable as they’re planning to step away, if anything?

I would say systems, biggest changes systems, getting the right people to manage, to define the systems, getting the right people, right leaders who can know how to manage a distance. A of businesses grow and their key leaders are based on loyalty, not competence. so, so getting, and at that stage, when you’re going to a 20 million business, it has to run like a corporation and entrepreneurs struggle with that aspect.

Most entrepreneurs think that as you get bigger, you have to get more efficient. And that is actually not true. As you get bigger, you become inefficient, but you have more credibility, you have more money, you more resources, and that results in more profit and more other things. But you’re not actually running a lean operation. Your overhead starts growing up. And so that’s the aspect that most people don’t understand. Either because the overheads are fuzzy, you don’t realize they’re overheads, and you just

put it in a different bucket. But as you get bigger, you need more tools, you need more resources, you have more regulations, all of that adds up. So getting a grasp on that and getting a good CEO who can run the ship without that owner mindset. The owner mindset is a strength in the beginning and can become a liability for a lot of owners in the middle market. And so making that transition to a

a manager who’s an operational manager running the systems well, even though they are not kind of fine tuned like the owner does, but creates stability, creates repeatability. Those are the things that are unique to a business that add value and help them continue to grow without the owner trying to do everything. And so those are kind of the challenge, creating the systems that are reliable systems that work with the culture of the business, the nature of the market and getting it done right.

Okay.

I agree with Samir. It seems as if it’s going from five to 20 million. They already have all those things in place and just continue to maintain the structure that they’re working with. But it’s just important to, again, create those systems, have those tools in place and, you know, have a idea in your mind of you’re developing a franchise within your own business.

So as you asked that question and Samir was answering, I was just thinking just keep doing what you’re doing and making sure you don’t you change with what the market is doing because if you’re scaling that rapidly, you already have a lot of the systems and tools and mindsets in place and people have properly had it in their correct divisions.

It’s funny that I’m answering this question this way based on my last answer. The financial reporting becomes so important on the backside. many people have a lot of personal expenses flowing through the business and it’s really interesting when people start looking around how

Yes.

much they start to question other things when they see things in the P &L that they don’t believe should be there. And so this is probably included in systems, but the financial reporting and making sure that those reports are really clean is so important from a credibility standpoint and value transferability.

Thank

Well, these have been some great insights and very practical tips that you guys have all shared today. As we’re wrapping up here, if someone wants to reach out to you or continue the conversation, what’s the best way for them to connect you with you? Feel free to share your website or LinkedIn or wherever you prefer they connect. Asa, we’ll start with you.

Okay, so our website is yourretirementbankmethod.com as well as I’m on LinkedIn, it’s just Asa E. Patterson. They can find me there. Correction, it’s yourretirementbank. So that’s our focus since we want people to think about retirement.

and how their retirement, how can they continue to get deposits and withdrawals? So you’re a retirement bank and also Asa E. Patterson on LinkedIn.

Very nice, thank you, and Samir.

So our website is Business Millionaire Club or the Millionaire Exit book also connects you to this. And I would advise people to buy the book, The Millionaire Exit as a very good prelude to really understanding what is it that they’re wanting to do. Go to Business Millionaire Club or they can reach me directly at samir.mokashi at outlook.com.

Thank you, Samir and Jerome.

Yeah, for us, we’d love to have people take our exit readiness assessment because I think it’s good for you wherever you are in business, just so you can see what opportunities you have available. If they go to exit to excellence dot com for slash ERA, you can get opportunity to take that for free and get a report. They don’t ever have to talk to a person if they don’t want to, but they’ll have very clear understanding of where they stand as it relates to exit readiness.

Awesome, and huge thank you to all of our panelists. We really appreciate you showing up today. This was a strong conversation. And if there’s one thing to take away, becoming exit ready isn’t something you just wait for at the end. It shows up in how you run the business today. Who owns what, how decisions move, and what happens when you step away. And if you want help putting this into practice, we created the Executive Efficiency Blueprint to help you turn conversations like this into cleaner execution and better use of your time. You can get it at our website, workergenics.com.

Thanks again for joining us today. We’ll see you all next time on the next Executive Edge Live and on the Scale Smart Grow Fast podcast. Thank you all for listening.

Thanks, take care.

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Your Lead Problem Isn’t What You Think It Is

Most operators don’t lose deals because of weak demand. They lose them because execution breaks between signal and follow-through. The pipeline looks full. The calendar is busy. But outcomes lag behind activity.

At a certain level, growth doesn’t fail from lack of opportunity. It fails from operational drag, fragmented decision-making, and systems that don’t hold under pressure. The cost isn’t just missed revenue. It’s leadership bandwidth getting consumed by things that should already be solved.

Preferred listening on the go? Catch the full podcast episode on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

The Hidden Constraint

The default assumption in most organizations is that more input solves the problem. More traffic. More leads. More campaigns.

But as discussed in the conversation with Anthony Blatner, the issue isn’t volume. It’s alignment between inputs and qualified outcomes.

When cheaper channels generate higher activity but lower-quality leads, teams end up spending time filtering instead of converting. Sales cycles extend. Decision speed slows. Leadership gets pulled into diagnosing problems that originate from poor upstream filtering.

This creates a hidden tax on execution.

You see it in teams that are “busy” but not advancing. In dashboards that look healthy at the top of the funnel but collapse deeper in the pipeline. In repeated conversations about improving conversion without addressing the quality of what’s entering the system.

The constraint is not effort. It’s the absence of a decision-making framework that prioritizes qualified outcomes over surface-level efficiency.

The Operating Shift

The shift is from optimizing for activity to optimizing for qualified progression.

This is where operational leverage actually begins.

Instead of asking “How do we get more leads?” the better question becomes:

What is the cost per qualified opportunity, and how consistently can we produce it?

This reframing changes how capital is allocated. It also changes how teams operate.

Rather than chasing low-cost clicks, operators start aligning marketing, sales, and data systems around a single standard: does this input produce forward movement in the pipeline?

This is a discipline shift. It requires tighter feedback loops, better instrumentation, and clearer ownership across stages.

It also requires accepting that higher upfront costs can produce lower total cost when execution is aligned.

That’s not a marketing decision. That’s capital allocation.

Execution in Practice

There are a few execution patterns from the conversation that highlight how this shift actually works inside an operating business.

1. Full-Funnel Visibility Over Front-End Metrics

One of the most common breakdowns is over-indexing on early-stage performance. Campaigns that generate low-cost leads get scaled quickly, even if those leads never convert.

The correction is straightforward but often ignored: track progression beyond the initial conversion.

This means tying marketing inputs directly to CRM stages. Not just leads, but qualified leads, opportunities, and closed outcomes.

When this visibility is in place, scaling decisions become clearer. Campaigns are no longer judged by volume, but by their contribution to pipeline movement.

This reduces noise and prevents teams from chasing false positives.

2. Lead Qualification as a System, Not a Judgment Call

Another key execution layer is the introduction of structured lead grading.

Instead of relying on intuition, teams implement a simple qualification step immediately after lead capture. A binary or tiered system that answers: is this the right type of opportunity or not?

This does two things.

First, it creates a feedback loop that improves targeting and messaging.

Second, it protects leadership bandwidth by preventing misaligned opportunities from moving deeper into the pipeline.

Without this, teams end up spending time evaluating deals that should have been filtered out earlier.

3. Content and Distribution as a System, Not an Event

The conversation also highlights a critical distinction in how content is used.

Most teams treat content as isolated output. A post, a campaign, a one-time push.

The more effective model is to treat it as part of a structured funnel.

Cold content introduces ideas and establishes relevance. Retargeting reinforces positioning. Offer-driven content converts.

Each layer builds on the previous one.

This reduces randomness and creates consistency in how prospects move through the system. It also reduces the need for constant reinvention, which is one of the biggest drains on execution capacity.

4. Delegation as Risk Control, Not Just Time Savings

A less obvious but critical insight is how delegation is used.

In many cases, leaders avoid delegating certain activities because they view them as low leverage or difficult to standardize.

But in environments like LinkedIn, where consistency and manual interaction matter, delegation becomes a form of risk management.

Automating incorrectly can lead to platform penalties or reputational damage.

Delegating to trained support, such as virtual executive assistants, allows execution to continue without exposing the organization to unnecessary risk.

This is not about offloading work. It’s about maintaining system integrity while protecting leadership focus.

Leverage Outcome

When these elements are in place, the outcome is not just better marketing performance. It’s operational clarity.

Teams know which inputs drive results.

Decisions are based on progression, not activity.

Execution becomes more predictable.

Most importantly, leadership bandwidth is preserved.

Instead of reacting to breakdowns, leaders operate from a position of control. They can focus on higher-order decisions like strategy, capital allocation, and team development.

This is what operational leverage actually looks like in practice.

Not doing more. Doing fewer things with higher precision and better alignment.

Connect With the Guest

To learn more about Anthony Blatner and their work:
Website: https://speedworksocial.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonyblatner/

The Immediate Move

If the pipeline feels inconsistent or heavier than it should, the issue is not volume. It’s structure.

Audit where opportunities break between initial interest and qualified progression.

Implement a clear qualification step. Align metrics across the full funnel. Remove any activity that does not directly contribute to forward movement.

Leadership bandwidth is not lost in strategy. It’s lost in re-decisions, misaligned inputs, and systems that don’t hold.

Fix the structure, and capacity expands without adding hours.

Full Transcript

Most leaders don’t have a pipeline problem. They have a follow-up and focus problem. Today, we’re joined by Anthony Blattner, founder of SpeedWorks Social and host of LinkedIn Ads Radio. He’s helped SaaS companies turn LinkedIn into predictable pipeline engine without adding more chaos to their day. Anthony, welcome to Scale Smart, Grow Fast. I’d for you to share a little bit more about your background and what led you to SpeedWorks Social.

Yeah. Hey Harley, thanks for having me. So a little bit about my background. I come into the marketing world from, from the tech world. I started my career early on doing software development and started my first business doing mobile app development. So I originally I worked for IBM for a few years, and then I started my own business building mobile apps for other people. This was like the very early days of the iPhone and it was.

It was a great, great space to be in at the time. And then, you know, after a while of building a lot of mobile apps, people started asking for help of, can you help us get some more downloads, get some more users and get people to sign up for it. So that was kind of the natural transition into getting into the marketing world. And, know, back in the day, it was try a little bit of everything, Google ads, Facebook ads, you know, all across the board, SEO and LinkedIn. And then.

because we were working with largely like tech companies and startups and stuff like that. We often found that LinkedIn was the best performing channel for all those types of companies. So this marketing agency we’ve had for about 10 years now, which seems like a long time and maybe.

Maybe like seven of those 10 years we’ve just decided just to focus on LinkedIn because seven years ago there was not many people doing LinkedIn. It was working very well for these types of tech companies. Obviously nowadays there’s a lot more people on LinkedIn which is great for both sides. But that’s how we got our start into getting into LinkedIn marketing and have just focused on LinkedIn ever since.

was actually at lunch today with someone who used to work in the SaaS space and were kind of lamenting about going to SaaS masterminds and these guys would be like great tech minds, but really struggled to get these products that they have and these great technology and engineering ideas out to the masses because they were not marketing people and didn’t have a clue what they were doing. So love that you’re here, maybe can shed some light for people like that today. I’m curious if you could take us back to that moment where you realized that LinkedIn

could be more than just another channel and what kind of distinguishes it from the other platforms out there that benefits people for getting their product out there.

For sure. So I do, I always remember this one project that I worked on like very early on. It was for a data analytics company that was basically selling dashboarding software to mid-market and bigger companies. Like it would, it had a lot of data security, data privacy and stuff like that type of tools built in. So it was meant for like bigger companies.

in, those, when we first started, we started by running everything for them. So we did Google ads, we did meta ads, and we did LinkedIn ads and you know, Google ads, you would get a lot of people searching for data analytics or research and stuff like that. But found that often like those types of people were maybe students looking for research that might use at school or maybe some research that they were doing, on meta. You know, a of people were downloading some different

Offers are signing up for things just because they thought it was an interesting free offer or like it was a flashy PDF or something. But when you go to look at those leads, pretty much none of them fit like the

criteria that the company was looking for. then comparing that to LinkedIn, where pretty much every lead that came through was like a good fit. So when you look at those metrics side by side, it was very clear that LinkedIn was the winner there. And we ended up pushing most of the budget to LinkedIn. So I always remember that project because it was just like super clear of the cost per qualified lead comparing these different channels. And, you know,

That was the one that always sticks out of my mind. And ever since then it’s been like, okay, LinkedIn is the place for B2B. If you’re, if you’re selling B2B to a niche professional, that’s where LinkedIn really stands out. You know, if you’re going to go sell to every business owner, know, maybe you have credit card processing software, maybe Meta is a better channel for that. So whenever you have a big broad audience, Meta might be a better channel for that. But yeah, I always think about that project.

And then that’s not to say that these other channels don’t have any place in B2B. Like there’s definitely some use for Google ads and meta ads in B2B marketing, but used the right way so that you’re targeting the right people and not just kind of driving a lot of cold traffic that isn’t going to be a good fit for

I how you broke that down. Now, some people may have heard or when they’re doing online research about getting into advertising that LinkedIn ads or LinkedIn marketing tends to be on the pricier side for the cost per click or impression or those different metrics. What would you say to someone who is seeing this and being like, well, it’s cheaper to go on Meta or these other platforms?

Yeah, really at the end of the day, have to look at your cost per qualified lead that you’re getting. And when, you know, when you look at Meta versus LinkedIn, Meta is almost always going to look cheaper. But if you’re getting, you know, 50 cent clicks, but none of them are the right people, then it doesn’t matter. So at end of the day, you have to look at cost per qualified lead that’s coming through and then kind of understand your metrics in that way.

You if you run Google display ads or meta ads, those are always going to look cheaper than LinkedIn. So you just got to make sure that you’re, you’re measuring the traffic and the results that you’re getting from that traffic. and then comparing them that way. So those are, those are some thoughts on that. but also I’ll say the, you know, the newer thing in LinkedIn these days is what’s called thought leader ads. it sounds fancy, but really just boosting posts from people. and the advantages.

person will always get higher engagement rates than a company. So we see much better performance from running these thoughtlier ads and with them, the engagement rates are so much higher that we can achieve much lower costs in a manner that’s competitive with the cost you’re going to see on Meta. So we can now get pretty competitive with Meta’s metrics and we know our traffic is all the right people that we’re going to.

And so actually it might be more cost effective because you’re getting the right people and not wasting money on leads that are taking maybe your sales team’s time and they’re just not the right people. That makes a lot of sense. I’d love to hear if you could maybe take us back and talk through one of your biggest mistakes that you made when you were first starting to scale these LinkedIn campaigns and what did it teach you about trusting your data and your team?

That’s a good question. What’s one of the biggest mistakes? I think working in the ads platform, you know, it can be too easy sometimes to see, this campaign is driving a really good cost per lead and a lot of leads. Let’s go crank that one up. But you need to then go look at what is, how are those leads moving after?

that initial conversion point because sometimes it can be very easy to drive a lot of leads for something, but maybe those people don’t have the right type of intent or the thing that they’re downloading maybe is a little bit misaligned with your main core offer. So very often in B2B marketing, the lead magnet strategy can be an effective one to use for a lot of industries. It can be when you need to generate new demand or if someone’s not

actively searching for you. Like if it’s a new category or a new product, then it’s hard to go straight to like get a demo or contact us because people need to learn something first. So that’s when switching to like a lead magnet strategy can be a more effective version of that, where you’re to offer some kind of downloadable guide checklist, webinar, stuff like that can all be effective. So sometimes

when you’re split testing different content items, you might find one is getting a lot more downloads, but you need to then look at what’s the conversion to call and to call into opportunity after that for those leads coming through and not just look at that pure front end cost per lead because that’s a mistake that yes, I have made in the past is you’ve you’ll over, you know, over index on, we’re getting a lot of leads here. Let’s crank that campaign up. But you really need to look at the full.

funnel as to like how those leads are moving afterwards. So if you’re using any kind of CRM, that makes this a lot easier. Something that we do for all clients is a lead grading step where as the lead comes in, we have them or their salesperson grade the lead for just a very quick initial, know, is this the right person or no, to give us, you know, to let us know like are the right people coming in through this offer and through this audience. If not, then we need to make some adjustments. So we do have that lead grading step.

And then from there, if you’re using any kind of CRM system like HubSpot or Salesforce, all of those have like the qualified lead step and the opportunity step so that you’ll know, okay, yes, this lead did progress to further stages. And those are the things you need to be then watch.

Awesome. Well, it sounds like you really learned some valuable lessons there. Watching the numbers and the metrics and tracking them is so important. I’m curious what your journey has been. Obviously, when you start out, doing everything yourself, leveraging both technology to help with scaling these LinkedIn pipelines as well as delegating, if you can speak to that in your experience.

Yeah. So it is a very exciting time for anything tech or online these days with all the AI stuff. So I’ll get to that a second, but first let’s talk about delegation. So on LinkedIn, there’s a lot of stuff that are…

I’ll say kind of nice to have, you’ll see a lot of people talk about, you should be making connection requests. You should be liking posts. You should be commenting on posts that your average CEO is not going to do. They don’t have time to do that. They’re, they’re focused on what their day to day is. They don’t have time to jump on the link to do this stuff. This is a perfect opportunity to delegate that to somebody. and I’d say that this is not, this is not a great thing for AI yet. Maybe AI will get there, but

You know, everyone has seen the AI comments and the AI posts on LinkedIn and it just looks bad when you see that you, you know, you, you know, it’s AI generated and you gives you a worse feeling about the person that you’re seeing post that again, a CEO is not going to want to be putting that out there and having other people think that of them. So this is a great use case to delegate to somebody, whether it could be a marketing leader on your team or a VA is great for this. So those are some good cases for that.

You know, they can go send those connection requests. They can go like those posts, leave those comments, and then that really starts to generate a lot of activity on LinkedIn. And that is, that does set a really good foundation for everything else that you’re going to do afterwards. So I talk a lot about advertising strategies and including those thought leader ad strategies where you’re boosting posts from people. So the more activity that that profile generates, the more…

the better the foundation that builds for everything else that we’re going to do on top of that. So it is a very, it doesn’t all kind of work together and build on each other. So next let’s talk, we can talk a little bit about the AI stuff. So AI is very, very interesting these days. You know, I think the easiest thing that most people can conceptualize is using it to generate posts, right? Write some posts for me. I do, Hey, recommend go, go do that. A lot of people, the biggest hurdle, like we work with lots of companies and lots of executives.

It is, you’d be surprised sometimes how much of a hurdle it is to get somebody to post on LinkedIn, or it’s like, we just need to get you some posts. Like I’ll write you some posts. You just need to get them out there. and I find, you know, giving them the content is the best, is the best way to get them started. The second best way is to show them their competitors who are posting well on LinkedIn and being like, we’re losing ground if you’re not posting, because you can see that these competitors are generating a lot of activity. so those are the two things that really help you get somebody to post, but from there.

you know, eventually you want them to be generating their own posts or their marketing leader or manager to be doing that. So AI is a great tool for that. One workflow I love is taking your call recordings from your past week and connecting the end. with like MCPs these days where you can add connectors to Claude or chat, GPT, you can say, Hey, go look at all my call recordings from this past week. Take a look at the transcripts and

and suggest some LinkedIn post ideas from like some insights and some LinkedIn post ideas from those call transcripts. And that just gives you a very unique set of posts that you could post on LinkedIn. Otherwise you might be getting some pretty generic kind of boring stuff. Cause I do talk to a lot of people and they’re like, yeah, I try to use AI, but it was kind of boring. It didn’t kind of, know, kind of seem like those, those, those noisy posts that you see all over the feed. And they’re like, I don’t want to do that. Well, if you give it.

more accurate starting content relevant to you, then it’s going to generate stuff from you. So take call recordings. I love that workflow. And use that to generate some posts. And then of course, don’t just click posts on that. Give it a little bit of human love, know, make sure it sounds like you do some editing to it. You know, I like to break it up a little bit. AI can be a little overly formal when it’s writing because as AI it wants, it’s going to output perfect grammar most of the time and stuff like that. Even if it doesn’t sound the way that somebody would actually write it. So take a Passover, edit it, put it your voice. You know, if, if you tend to use emojis, go at them in,

and just make it sound like you. can definitely do some training for the AI. You hey, here’s all my posts that I’ve written so far, or here’s a bunch of my other writing and let it learn based off that. But I find take a Passover and edit it yourself a little bit and just make it sound a little more conversational. So AI is very interesting. Writing content is the easiest thing. And then from there, we’re doing some very interesting things with in the ads platform. Now you can connect Claude to the ads platform. There are MCPs out there to do that.

But through all my testing, like MCPs are a great tool, but they can be limited in the fact that they’re like, like pre pre-configured APIs where someone’s like, okay, you know, here’s, here’s 20 API calls you can make from this MCP. But most APIs are pretty extensive that 20 doesn’t, isn’t fully giving you full access to the API. So I’ve built.

my own API interface to the LinkedIn ads API. And like anybody can do this. It’s very easy to do. you just tell Claude to do it. does it for you. build your own API interface so that you can just communicate directly with the LinkedIn ads API. And then you can start to get to some more interesting things.

you know, the couple of connections I would make is your LinkedIn ads connection, and then maybe your CRM connection, HubSpot, whatever it is. And then you start to pull that data out and tell Claude to analyze your LinkedIn ads performance data versus your HubSpot CRM data and make some connections of, Hey, this campaign is driving you the best leads. Go and those leads are turning into sales opportunities and HubSpot go spend more there.

because blending together the LinkedIn ads data versus your serum data is really where the magic happens. And it can be challenging sometimes to see that because LinkedIn’s got the spend and the clicks, HubSpot has meetings and opportunities, and sometimes you have to manually export those and blend them together to get those stats. But if you can just tell Claude to go do it, that really simplifies the whole process a lot.

Those are just some interesting examples. And then from there, there’s just like, you know, once, once you get something into like an MCP and Claude, then like the options are infinite. So there’s some more advanced stuff that you can do, but I’ll kind of leave it at that for the purpose of this episode.

And one of the themes I’m hearing is like, there’s great opportunity, both on delegation and leveraging technology AI specifically. One thing that stands out is you still have to have a human in the loop, the thought leader, right? Whether it’s you, you know, helping a CEO or a CEO coming in and like kind of following your guidance, there’s got to be that human in the loop to make it effective. You know, you cannot just say, Hey Claude, do all my ads.

it needs to have someone to get it set up right. You’ve got to have that plan. And so I think that’s an important point that you’re making there. One question I had too was, along with some of the opportunities that you shared, like the Thought Leader promotion, leveraging AI with the LinkedIn ads and your CRM, are you finding it important to find ways to have people on LinkedIn or whatever social platform they’re on grow their direct

network, their connections, I think it’s the term in LinkedIn, or like friends for Facebook and Meta, and like what strategies, if that is important to you, suggest people leverage.

Yeah. So your connections are definitely one piece of the pie. It doesn’t end there, but it does kind of start there. So building your network is useful because, you know, a lot of what we do is how do we get more impressions to your content? The first step is just building awareness, getting people to know who you are, what you do, and then you can deliver the CTA. So the bigger your network, the more people are going to organically see your content. So definitely network is one step of the process. And you can…

You can send those connection requests. LinkedIn has tightened those limits a lot. So you can send about a hundred to 125 a week. So do use those? And the best thing to do is in sales navigator, if you have sales navigator, you can filter by people who have viewed your profile. So it’s kind of the warmest, almost retargeting stuff you can do. So, Hey, if someone’s viewed my profile, great, let’s go make sure we connect with them. You’ll have the highest connection rate out of that. You know, maybe you filter that down to like your ICP.

You know, the right job title, the right type of company who has viewed your profile and they connect with those people. And then for any leftover ones, go connect with, with your target audience. so that’s kind just one piece of the puzzle. Other things you can do is the more content you post, you can gain followers out of that in the top right corner will be a little follow button for someone who’s not connected or following you. So the, the better content you post, the more likely someone is to click follow on that button. I find that,

those document carousels tend to be some of the best stuff. Well, those in videos are like the top two because for whatever reason, people find those documents very interesting. Like they often want to save those and send them to somebody else on the team and just tends to get a lot more followers. And then same with video too. You kind of like get the, people kind of really get to know you when you post a video of yourself, maybe talking about your topic.

So those are the best two to build your following and then from there once you have a good top-performing post that’s a good candidate to go boost and then from there you can kind of just you know run the continue running the process that way

And then overall, like the best thing if you’re trying to build followers is those comment to receive type of posts. Some people have had bad experiences with those, but at end of the day, if you’re like offering a good piece of content to people and then you actually give it to them when it comes out, that’s all you got to do. And then, you know, people will be happy. Sometimes you’ll see those people haven’t followed up with everybody, haven’t sent it to everybody, and then they’ll get annoyed and frustrated. But those comment to receive posts are like one of the fastest ways to build your network.

Not everyone’s going to do that, but if you do have interesting pieces of content that you can share, that’s the best way to build your follow-up.

And is the handler for those like comment to receive posts something that can be automated? you found that? Or is it best to like just leverage that virtual assistant again to just monitor those and go ahead and deliver the deliverable at that time.

Yeah. Another good time for delegation. Definitely would delegate that to a VA. You want to be very careful. I do not recommend automation on LinkedIn. LinkedIn is trying very hard to ban and remove any account that uses automation. So LinkedIn’s getting smarter and smarter about it. They’ve recently banned other companies who have done automation on LinkedIn. So you just, you see the trend happening. You know, they’re banning the companies and they’re starting to ban people that do automation. So just.

You know, no, no CEO wants to lose their profile. So at the end of the day, you want to make sure you’re doing it the right way. You’re not going to get yourself banned. Um, so yeah, the recent examples are like Apollo got banned maybe a year ago and then Hey Reach just got banned. And it’s because those platforms were automating actions on LinkedIn. They were scraping data from LinkedIn. LinkedIn doesn’t like that. So they got rid of those platforms and then, you know,

I actually just read an article that anytime you visit LinkedIn, LinkedIn scans your browser for extensions you might be using that might be, that are known to do automations on LinkedIn. So be careful with the browser extensions you’re using and just be careful with the automation that you’re using. Um, you know, I’ve, I’ve heard of a lot of people being fine with doing a little bit of automation, but I’ve also heard of a lot of people getting their profiles restricted or banned or something like that.

I as an advertiser do not recommend automation and if you do, just be very, very careful with whatever you’re doing. The flip side of that is, hey, it’s much easier to go delegate this to a VA. LinkedIn is very aware that most CEOs have an assistant out there, any kind of mid to big size company. Pretty much all those CEOs have an assistant of some sort who’s gonna help them with anything that they’re doing on LinkedIn. So, LinkedIn’s very aware of that.

So the delegation route is the better route to go. Do not automate things on LinkedIn. You know, don’t, you can try your luck, but you might get banned.

So leave the automation and technology more for the backend, the links between the API for the LinkedIn ads and just analyzing the data and helping generate content, sounds like, and put the human in the loop for the actual direct interaction.

Yeah, and it’s interesting you talk about the human loop step. Like I think that is a very important step for anything that you’re going to do AI based. And then the other thing that I think a lot about that I’ve heard about is called the skilled operator.

problem or situation or scenario where at end of the day, whatever you’re using AI for, you still need to know what you’re doing to know if the output’s any good. So whether you’re writing content or analyzing performance data or whatever it is, like analyzing your financials, like the output, the recommendations, you still need to know if it’s good or not. So

You know, I don’t, AI hopefully will be making us more efficient, but, you know, it’s not going to eliminate every job and everything because you still need to know somebody, you still need to have somebody who knows what they’re doing. So hopefully it makes teams and companies more efficient and people more efficient. But the other day you still need to know if what, what it’s outputting is good.

Well, that’s a perfect segue into a question I had for you, which is like when something does work, you get that post where you get a lot of engagement, you get a lot of leads coming through it. How do you turn that into a repeatable process instead of just having it as a one-off win?

Yes. So what you do is you start to build a funnel out of your LinkedIn posts. if you’ve done any marketing, the marketing funnel is a common concept where you’ll have your cold layer and then you’ll have your retargeting layer so that once somebody engages with your cold layer, maybe you’re targeting that to your ICP or your target accounts. And then once somebody clicks on one of those, watches the video, then those people get retargeted with all of the rest of your content. So you start to build that journey.

So this is what starts to make it a repeatable process is as they engage then get retargeted you can add you can add website retargeting so anybody who visits your website will get retargeted you can add company page retargeting so anybody who visits your company on LinkedIn can get retargeted so these are all good things to be building in and then You know kind of the three main steps are number one. You’re gonna have your cold layer So what I like to use there like there’s a lot of stuff that can work there, but what I see work best

across the board for everybody is like a good case study. And it needs to be the like, here’s how you can achieve XYZ results. Here’s some steps or here’s a tutorial or here’s information that you can use. Not the we’re so awesome because we got this result case study, but here’s how you can do it to type of case study. That’s what that’s why people are on LinkedIn to read those types of posts and learn something that they can take back to their job and their company. That’s what they want. So if you’re

If you’re posting that, that’s perfect content to start with. So case studies across the board can work well. There’s lots of that can work well, but across the board is case studies. And then from there, retarget them with a whole bunch of different posts, maybe other case studies, maybe podcast clips, other things. A lot of things can go in that second layer. And then your third layer can be your offer posts. So at this point, know, people have engaged with you a few different times. They have a much better picture of who you are and what you do.

And then from there, then you can deliver your offer post. So this type of post could be much more direct into, hey, here’s what we do. Here’s how we help people. Click here for a free consultation or a free demo or free trial, whatever it is. And then that would be then boosted to that third layer. Again, people have engaged with you few times. They have a much better picture of who you are.

And a couple of tips here is one, you can post without the link initially, maybe just app tag your company instead of the link so that you get the maximum organic reach. And then after a couple of days, you can then go edit that post, switch that tag to a link and then boost it so that you’re getting your organic engagement. You then edit it and then you boost it. And now it’s going to run as a boosted post. You’re not worried about it getting like less reach because of the link.

you’re boosting it so you know it’s going to give it’s reach. And then yes, lots of people, you know, maybe shy away from putting links into posts because very often on social and like there’s a lot of like mixed research out there, but very often on social, if you put a link in a post, you get less reach out of that post. So.

Once you boost something, you know the algorithm is going to be serving it because you’re boosting it as an ad. So that’s a way to just make sure your content is getting served to the right people that you want it to and not just leaving it up to the organic algorithm. So once you set this up as a funnel, then that’s how you start to build repeatable results and drive people to whatever your final offer is.

There’s a huge amount of value you just shared there. Appreciate all those tips for everyone listening. And one question I think a lot of people have on their minds right now is like, especially with LinkedIn, it seems to be evolving a lot. It’s changing what it promotes, what people like. We’ve already talked about some of the things that’s changed just in the last few years. What do you think leaders need to be preparing now to do to protect their pipelines ability and their leadership freedom over the next six, 12, 18 months?

Can you repeat that question over time? I’ll do the wave for your editor.

Yes. So basically, you know, it was a long question. So I’ll shorten it up. as LinkedIn evolves, what should many leaders be preparing to do now to protect their pipeline stability and their leadership freedom over the next 12 to 18 months?

Yeah, so it is about building systems, I believe that, you know, some of these things that we’ve talked about of analyze your call transcripts and then create LinkedIn posts from that. Like we’re talking about systems here for the most part. Like that’s how you start to get it out of from just like one-off chats with Claude into like something that saves you time. So people should be.

I think everybody should be learning AI now, like learning how these tools work, learning how the MCPs work and all this stuff, because I think it is getting better and more useful and more integrations are being built. So it’s definitely like, that’s where everything is going. You need to learn it now so that you can take advantage of it. But that said, for like executives to like start, you know, saving themselves time, there’s a few different things, I think.

And I’ll kind of first I’ll walk through like the B2B marketing process. And then from there, I’ll have some stuff out of sight of it. But what you do is as you start to that funnel that I talked about first, it’s about the content that you’re creating. So build that process, get the content created, then also know who you want to be selling to. So the more clear and specific you can be about who your target audience is, the more targeted your ad campaigns can be. And then the more

The more you know your money will be spent on the right people because we don’t want to leave anything up to chance. We don’t want to be spending money on the wrong people. So you want to make sure you’re reaching the exact right people. And one of the best things you can do is build a target account list, whether that’s your Dream 100 or your TAM, your Total Addressable Market. Build that list so that

You know, the exact companies you want to be reaching and not just, you know, leave it, leaving it up to chance of who’s going to be seeing your ads. So that’s some of the groundwork you can do now. and like I said, from there, it’s about building systems. and I I still believe that right now, like, you know, outsourcing, delegating, VAs are a great thing to be doing that, some of this stuff cannot be automated with AI, you know, to the automation thing with LinkedIn is you want to be careful to not be using automation there. That’s where you need.

to human in the loop. Number one, just to be, just to not be doing automation that’s going to get banned. But then number two, to be reviewing the outputs of what’s coming out of these tools and make sure it’s good. And then, you know, doing the right steps to make sure things get posted and stuff like that. So a lot of steps there, but I think it comes down to building systems and then having the right people in place so that the things aren’t all on your plate, but you’re getting it outsourced and delegated from there.

Awesome. Now, what would you say is one common mistake you are continually seeing leaders make on LinkedIn today that’s hurting their results?

Hmm. That’s a good question. What is one common mistake? Every time I go to look at someone’s like an executives posts that they’re doing, not every time, but a lot of times, like it would just happen like yesterday when we were reviewing a couple of executives at a company and the content they’ve already posted. And especially when you generate stuff with AI, it tries to put maybe a little hook or like the first line.

Very often I see that they write a post and the first like couple lines don’t indicate exactly what the rest of the post is about. So this one that I was reviewing yesterday was about, a lot of his content was combining AI with education and the kind of the technology side of education, building educational platforms and courses and modules. But the first couple lines always talked about AI. So I’m sure that, you

What happens is people who see those posts, they see AI in the first couple of lines. They’re like, I want to read more about AI. So they click read more, but then the rest of the post is about education. Then you’re like, wait, what? And then they scroll by. So if you’re boosting that with an ad and then retargeting those people, you’re getting the wrong clicks because your first couple of lines talk about AI, but it doesn’t talk about the educational stuff that has main, you know, that’s what the business does. So your hook there is very important. You want it to be.

kind of pretty clear as to what the rest of the post is going to be about, because you don’t want to be drawing in the wrong clicks, which are then going to get retargeted. And then you’re spending more money on the wrong people or the people with the wrong intent. You know, again, they were interested in AI, but not necessarily education. So you’re bringing in the wrong people. So that’s something I see. I just thought about it. Like I see that all the time whenever we look at posts. So your first couple of lines are very important. Make sure you’re drawing in the right clicks.

That’s really powerful because you might have great content after that and had you attracted the right person could have been very powerful post. But if, like you said, you don’t have that hook right, it’s a total misalignment of the content with the audience there. So great advice there. Anthony, we’re running out of time here. If people want to learn more about you, connect with you and maybe we’d love to hear a bit more about your podcast about LinkedIn ads. What’s the best way for them to connect with you?

Sure. So getting started is I’m on obviously on LinkedIn a lot. So feel free to go connect with me there. I’m the only Anthony Blattner. You can look up, look me up there and kind of come to me there and follow. I talk a lot about LinkedIn ads. And then if you want to listen to our podcast, we have lots of episodes. It starts with a master class for the first like season, deep diving on everything A to Z. And then after that, we have lots of interviews, both with LinkedIn and with other LinkedIn practitioners. So you’ll pick up a lot of different good tips and tricks if you listen to those episodes.

Similarly, we also post that on YouTube with some good videos there, so feel free to check it out wherever you prefer. And then if you want help with your LinkedIn ads, you can find us at speedworksocial.com and we’ll always offer a free audit if you’re currently running ads. If not, we’ll help you put together a marketing plan.

Awesome. And then again, thank you so much for coming on the podcast today. It’s been a great pleasure having you here.

Thanks, Harley, it was fun to deep dive.

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Opening Scaling Tension

At a certain point, growth stops translating into control.

The pipeline expands, inbound increases, and activity rises across the business. But execution slows down. Follow-ups lag. Decisions stack. The inbox becomes a queue of unresolved commitments. What should feel like progress begins to feel like operational drag.

This is where decision fatigue sets in. Not because the decisions are complex, but because there are too many of them. Too many touchpoints still require founder involvement. Too many tasks depend on direct oversight.

The business is growing. But leadership bandwidth is shrinking.

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The Hidden Constraint

The constraint is not demand. It is not capital. It is not even talent.

The constraint is structural.

The founder remains the execution hub.

Every lead requires coordination. Every conversation requires follow-up. Every workflow requires supervision. Even with team members in place, the system still routes through one person. That creates a bottleneck that no amount of additional activity can solve.

This is why many operators experience a paradox. They invest in growth. They generate more opportunities. But instead of increasing throughput, they increase friction.

More leads create more administrative load. More communication. More scheduling. More CRM updates. More tracking. More decisions.

Without execution systems, growth compounds operational risk.

And over time, opportunities degrade. Leads fall through the cracks. Response times slow. Conversion suffers. Not because of strategy, but because of follow-through breakdowns.

The Operating Shift

The operating principle is straightforward:

Operational leverage is created by removing the founder from execution coordination, not by increasing inputs.

This is a shift from activity to structure.

Instead of asking how to generate more demand, the focus moves to how demand is processed. How decisions are made. How follow-ups are executed. How work moves without constant intervention.

Scaling discipline requires that execution systems replace memory, urgency, and reactive decision-making.

This is also where capital allocation becomes more precise.

Hiring for revenue generation before stabilizing execution increases exposure. It introduces more variables into a system that is already constrained. The result is inefficiency at best and missed revenue at worst.

The more disciplined move is to build operational infrastructure first. To ensure that every input can be absorbed, processed, and converted without increasing founder dependency.

Execution in Practice

This shift becomes tangible through specific execution systems.

1. Structured Follow-Up as a Decision-Making Framework

Follow-up is not a task. It is a system.

Every lead, client interaction, and communication should move through a predefined sequence. Timing, messaging, and ownership are clear. There is no re-deciding what to do next.

This reduces cognitive load and increases consistency. It also improves risk management. Opportunities are not left to memory or availability.

2. Inbox and Calendar as Controlled Systems

When the inbox operates as an open loop, it becomes a source of constant interruption. Each message demands context switching. Each decision fragments attention.

A structured approach converts the inbox into a filtered system. Only high-leverage decisions reach the founder. Everything else is processed, organized, and executed upstream.

The same applies to scheduling. Calendar control is not about filling time. It is about protecting decision-making capacity.

3. Ownership Transfer in Administrative Execution

Administrative work is not inherently low value. It becomes low leverage when it requires founder involvement.

Tasks such as CRM updates, document coordination, onboarding, and communication tracking are essential to execution quality. But they do not require founder-level judgment.

When ownership is transferred with clear systems, these tasks are completed with consistency and speed. This eliminates re-decisions and reduces execution friction.

4. Decoupling Output from Founder Time

Marketing, communication, and content often depend on founder availability. This creates a direct constraint on output.

By separating high-value input from downstream execution, output increases without increasing time investment. The founder contributes strategically. The system handles distribution, coordination, and follow-through.

This is where operational leverage becomes visible. Capacity expands without extending hours.

Leverage Outcome

When execution systems are in place, the business operates differently.

Decisions become fewer and more focused. Execution becomes more predictable. Communication becomes more structured. Projects move forward without constant oversight.

Leadership bandwidth is preserved.

This has direct implications for capital allocation and risk management. With clearer visibility and faster decision-making, operators can deploy resources more effectively. They can evaluate opportunities without being buried in operational noise.

The business becomes less dependent on individual effort and more dependent on system performance.

This is the difference between scaling activity and scaling capacity.

One increases workload. The other increases control.

The Immediate Move

Identify where you are still the point of coordination.

Not where you are making strategic decisions. Where you are managing execution. Where follow-ups depend on you. Where communication waits on you. Where tasks require your involvement to move forward.

These are not minor inefficiencies. They are structural constraints on scale.

Replace effort with structure.

Transfer ownership of execution with clear systems. Define workflows that eliminate re-decisions. Reduce cognitive load by ensuring that work moves without constant intervention.

Leadership bandwidth is the limiting factor. Protect it with disciplined execution systems, not additional activity.

Watch this before you hire your next support role.

Full Podcast Transcript

Let me start with a situation I see all the time. A business owner reaches the point where they know they need help. A business owner reaches the point where they know they need help. Their schedule is packed, their inbox is overflowing, their to-do list keeps growing. So they decide it’s time to hire. And the first hire they make is usually something like a cold caller or an ISA, an inside sales agent, or someone focused entirely on generating more.

or something foes or someone focused entirely on generating more leads.

The thinking makes sense. If we just bring in more leads, the business will grow. But here’s the problem. When the operations of your business still depend on you to coordinate everything, more leads often just creates more chaos. Now, before we go deeper into that, quick introduction in case this is the first episode you’re catching. Now, before we go deeper into that, quick introduction in case this is the first episode you’re catching. Normally my husband…

I’m Adrienne Green, co-founder of Workergenics, a virtual staffing agency where we help business owners and entrepreneurs in the United States get amazing virtual executive assistance. Normally, my husband, Harley Green, hosts this podcast. But for this short series, I’ve been stepping in as a guest host.

Before starting Workergenics, I built and later sold a real estate team. And learning how to leverage virtual assistants inside that business was one of the biggest reasons it was able to grow the way it did. And if you want to hear more about that, go back to episodes where I get into all the details. Because in this short series, we’ve been talking about how business owners create leverage inside their business using virtual assistants.

Now, like I said, in the first episode, I shared the story of how I first started working with virtual assistants and how that changed the trajectory of my business and my life. In the second episode, we talk about when hiring help actually doesn’t make sense yet because not every business needs additional leverage. And today we’re going to talk about the next step when you are ready to hire, when your business could use that leverage. What role should you hire first?

because this is where a lot of business owners accidentally make things a lot harder for themselves. Now, when entrepreneurs decide it’s time to grow, they often start by hiring someone focused on sales or marketing. In real estate and other industries, this could look like a cold collar, an ISA, a lead manager, maybe somebody who’s running ads or…

focused solely on marketing. And the idea is simple, more leads will equal more growth. But here’s what often happens instead. The new marketing or sales activity does start to produce results. There’s more leads or more inquiries, more emails, more calls, and also more follow-ups. And while this has some good stuff going on, every one of these things creates additional operational work.

Someone has to respond to the inquiries, schedule the calls, organize the calendar, update the CRM, send the follow-ups that actually convert those leads into clients, prepare the documents, track communication, coordinate everything. And very often that someone is still the business owner, the solopreneur, and instead of reducing their workload, the new hire actually increases it. And we’re not often seeing that increase in income

because some of those leads are just falling through the cracks. And this leads to one of the biggest realizations many business owners eventually have. The problem usually isn’t a lack of opportunity. The problem is that the business owner becomes the operational bottleneck. Every small decision passes through them. Every coordination task lands in their inbox. Every piece of information needs their attention. And that creates friction and limitation.

Not because the owner isn’t capable, but because there’s simply a limit to how many things one person can do in a day. And that’s why simply adding more leads to the top of that business funnel isn’t always gonna solve the problem. If the operational side of the business isn’t supported, growth can actually make things harder instead of easier. This is why in many businesses, the most powerful first hire is actually an executive assistant.

and this is what I did myself in my business. I had an executive assistant handle my bottom 80%, all the operations, the follow-up, the administration work, so I could focus on the top 20 % that included servicing the clients with only, so that I could focus on the top 20%, which included servicing the clients with only the work that I could do and marketing and lead gen. Now an executive assistant doesn’t just complete tasks.

They take ownership of the operational layer of the business. Things like managing your inbox, drafting emails so that you can just review and send, or maybe even sending emails on your behalf, organizing your calendar and helping schedule calls, coordinating those meetings, and then tracking the follow-ups, doing all that follow-up that often falls through the cracks. Maintaining the CRM so that you’re accurately tracking all those new leads that you’re able to get because you’re doing more lead gen and marketing.

Handling client onboarding so that you can actually get these clients serviced and get them into paying clients. Preparing documents, supporting all those marketing logistics. Something I shared in the first video was I was able to really get a lot more business because I could do marketing like I just recorded the video and my virtual assistant did everything else to get that video posted on YouTube, to get clips on socials, to make it out in the world. I did 10 minutes of work, they did a few hours to get that done so we could put out more videos.

The executive assistants also help keep projects organized. I was able to events, talk about marketing and lead generation. I was able to host investor meetups because my virtual executive assistant was the one coordinating everything and keeping it organized. Now all of this is stuff that’s happening in a growing business, but it doesn’t necessarily require the business owner or the entrepreneur to personally do them. So when executive assistant takes ownership of these responsibilities,

something powerful happens. The business owner gets their time back and that time can be reinvested in that top 20 % work that actually drives growth, strategy, relationships, decision-making, leadership, all of those things that only you can do. Now inside WorkerGenix, we often refer to something called the executive efficiency flywheel. It starts with one simple shift.

reduce the administrative load on the business owner. Once that happens, a few things begin to compound. The leader has more clarity, so decisions happen faster. Communication becomes more organized. Projects move forward more consistently, and the business starts to gain momentum. Many leaders spend 30 or more hours every week on administrative work that could be delegated. That’s almost four full work days

When that time is reclaimed, it creates enormous capacity within your business.

Now, if you want to see exactly what tasks might be taking up your time that you could hand off to an executive assistant, one of the best things that you can do is a simple time audit. And that’s why my team created the Executive Efficiency Blueprint. Inside this guide, you’ll find a simple framework to help you identify which tasks are strategic and which ones could be delegated. You can download that guide below or visit us at workergenics.com slash EEB.

And if you’re curious about what working with a virtual executive assistant might look like inside your own business, you can also schedule a conversation with the Workergenics team. Well, thank you guys for joining me on this short series as I came in and joined the Scale Smart Grow Fast podcast. Harley will be back hosting the podcast in the next episode. And hopefully these conversations help you think a little differently.

about how leverage works inside a business. Because sometimes the biggest opportunity for growth isn’t working harder, it’s stopping the work that doesn’t actually require you.

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When Support Becomes Friction Instead of Leverage

At a certain stage, growth stops feeling like expansion and starts feeling like weight. Decisions stack. Follow-ups slip. Execution slows. The instinct is to add help. More capacity should fix the pressure.

But in many businesses, especially those already operating within a controlled workload, the next layer of support introduces coordination overhead before it creates relief. What was supposed to reduce operational drag begins to add it.

This is where most delegation decisions break down.

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The Hidden Constraint

The constraint is not always time. It is often structure.

Many operators assume they are capacity-constrained when in reality they are clarity-constrained. The business runs. The workload fits. The outcomes are acceptable. But the assumption is that adding support will automatically improve the system.

Without clear execution systems, decision-making frameworks, and defined ownership, support does not remove work. It redistributes it into communication, oversight, and rework.

Hiring too early creates a new layer of responsibility. Tasks must be defined. Processes must be explained. Standards must be enforced. That effort is not trivial. It is operational work.

If the business is not yet under real strain, that added layer becomes friction.

The Operating Shift

Delegation is not a default step in scaling. It is a timing decision.

The shift is recognizing that operational leverage only works when there is pressure to absorb. Without that pressure, leverage does not expand capacity. It fragments it.

There are two valid reasons to introduce support:

First, the business requires more output than current systems can handle.
Second, the operator wants to reclaim time to reallocate toward higher-value decisions or personal capacity.

If neither condition exists, adding support is not leverage. It is complexity.

This reframes delegation from a growth tactic into a structural decision tied directly to leadership bandwidth and execution demand.

Execution in Practice

There are three clear signals that support is premature.

1. The business already fits within your week

If execution is stable, deliverables are completed, and there is no backlog of strategic work being deferred, there is no excess demand to absorb. Operational leverage has nowhere to apply.

Adding support in this scenario introduces coordination without relieving pressure.

2. Your schedule is controlled, not reactive

If your calendar allows for completion of work without constant spillover into evenings or weekends, and decisions are not being rushed or delayed, your current execution system is functioning.

Support is typically introduced to restore control. If control already exists, the benefit diminishes.

3. The business supports the life you want

Not every operator is optimizing for maximum scale. Some are optimizing for stability, income, and lifestyle alignment.

If the current structure delivers that outcome, introducing additional layers of execution may disrupt rather than improve the system.

This is where many operators misallocate resources. They pursue leverage because it is expected, not because it is required.

Key Execution Insights

Delegation is a learned operational skill

The first layer of support requires building new capabilities: task decomposition, process clarity, communication discipline, and trust transfer.

This is not passive. It requires active leadership involvement. Without structured delegation, support creates dependency rather than leverage.

Hiring creates new decision surfaces

Every new role introduces additional decisions. What gets delegated. How it gets done. What standards apply. What requires escalation.

If those decisions are not systematized, the operator becomes the bottleneck again. The difference is now there are more inputs flowing toward them.

Shiny object pressure distorts timing

Operators are constantly exposed to new “must-do” tactics. Hiring support becomes one of them. It is positioned as a universal solution rather than a conditional one.

This creates premature scaling decisions that are not aligned with actual operational needs.

Leverage must be earned through structure

True operational leverage comes from systems that allow work to move without constant intervention. Without defined workflows, SOPs, and ownership clarity, adding people does not create scale. It increases coordination cost.

Leverage Outcome

When introduced at the right time, support expands capacity. It removes low-leverage work from leadership and allows focus to shift toward decision-making, capital allocation, and growth strategy.

When introduced too early, it compresses capacity. It adds oversight requirements, increases communication load, and slows execution speed.

The difference is not the person. It is the timing and the structure surrounding the role.

Leadership bandwidth is the variable being protected or eroded.

The Immediate Move

The goal is not to add help. The goal is to protect and expand leadership bandwidth.

That requires disciplined evaluation of where time is actually going and whether the current system is under real strain. If execution fits, decisions are clear, and outcomes are aligned with your objectives, the constraint is not capacity.

Structure comes before support.

Ownership transfer only works when tasks are defined, processes are stable, and expectations are clear. Without that, delegation becomes supervision.

Reduce cognitive load before expanding the team. Eliminate unnecessary decisions. Clarify workflows. Identify true bottlenecks. Then introduce leverage where it directly increases throughput or frees leadership capacity.

Scaling discipline is not about doing more. It is about deciding what not to add.

Watch this before you hire your next support role.

Full Podcast Transcript

Let me start this episode with something that might sound a little strange coming from someone who runs a company that provides virtual assistants. Sometimes you should not hire a virtual assistant.

Now, if you listened to the last episode, you heard how hiring a virtual assistant completely transformed my business as a real estate agent. It helped me rebuild a business from scratch in a new city and eventually grow it into a real estate team doing about $27 million in annual volume, a team that was a business that I could sell and move on to other endeavors. No, cut that.

It helped me rebuild a business from scratch in a new city and eventually grow it into a real estate team doing about $27 million in annual volume. That team, by the way, was a business that I could eventually and did eventually sell. So yes, I absolutely believe in delegation and leverage.

But after talking with a lot of entrepreneurs and business owners over the years, I’ve realized something important. Not everyone actually needs help yet. And hiring a virtual assistant when you don’t truly need one can actually create more complexity instead of more freedom. So today, we’re going to talk about when you should not hire a virtual assistant. If you are just joining this series on the Scale Smart Growth Path,

Now, if you are just joining this series on the Scale Smart Grow Fast podcast, quick context, I’m Adrienne Green, co-founder of Workergenics. Normally my husband Harley hosts this podcast, but for a few episodes I’m stepping in as a guest host. In this short series, we’re talking about how entrepreneurs and business owners free up time and stop spending their days on work that doesn’t actually require them.

In the first episode, I shared the story of how hiring a virtual assistant changed the trajectory of my business. But today, we’re going to talk about the other side of the equation, because knowing when not to hire help is just as important as knowing when you should.

One thing I’ve noticed in the business world is something called shiny object syndrome. You’re probably familiar with it. Every year there’s some new thing that everybody says business owners should be doing. Start a podcast, launch a YouTube channel, build a course, hire a VA, use AI to automate everything, and suddenly it feels like every entrepreneur is supposed to follow the same exact playbook. Hiring a virtual assistant is because one of…

Hiring a virtual assistant has become one of those things. You’ll hear advice like, just hire a VA. Outsource everything. Buy back your time. Get help immediately. And while delegation can absolutely transform a business and a life, it’s not always the right move. Because hiring help isn’t magic. It requires effort. You have to figure out which tasks to delegate. You have to explain how things should be done. You have to communicate clearly. And you have to spend some time getting someone up to speed.

If your business doesn’t actually need that leverage yet, hiring help can end up creating more moving parts instead of simplifying things.

Let me give you a real example. Recently, I had a conversation with a real estate investor who reached out to explore hiring a virtual assistant. We started talking about his business, how many deals he was doing, what his typical week looked like, what his goals were.

And as we talked, something became clear pretty quickly. His business was doing exactly what he wanted it to do. He had the lifestyle he wanted. He wasn’t overwhelmed. He wasn’t buried under work. He wasn’t working nights and weekends. Life was actually going really well. So at the end of the conversation, I told him something he probably didn’t expect to hear. I said, honestly, I don’t think you should hire a virtual assistant right now.

And he kind of paused for a moment and was surprised, because when someone talks to the founder and owner of a virtual assistant company, they usually expect the answer to be, yeah, you need us. But the truth is, if your business is already supporting the life you want, you might not need additional leverage.

And honestly, this is not the first time I’ve had this conversation, because the goal isn’t just to help people hire assistants. The goal is to help people build better businesses and better lives. Often, that does mean hiring help. But sometimes, it means realizing things are actually working the way I want them to, and that’s a great place to be.

Another thing people don’t always talk about is that delegation is a skill that you build over time. The first time that you hire help, you have to learn how to hand off tasks, how to explain your processes, how to communicate expectations, and trust someone else with work you’ve already handled yourself.

That learning curve isn’t huge, but it is real. And while at WorkerGenix, we do offer training and resources to help with that, at the end of the day, as the business owner and entrepreneur, you’ve got to also do the work. So if your business already fits comfortably within your week and you’re not trying to grow it further, there may not be a good reason to introduce that additional layer of work and learning that comes with figuring out how to leverage a virtual Assistant.

Let me walk through three situations when hiring a virtual assistant probably doesn’t make sense yet.

Number one, you’re happy with the size of your business. Not every entrepreneur wants to build a massive company that’s gonna go public or get bought out by private equity. Some people intentionally design their business to support the lifestyle they want. If your business is already producing the income you want and the workload feels manageable, you may not need additional help right now.

Situation two, your schedule already feels balanced. Another important factor is your schedule. If you’re finishing work at a reasonable time on most days and you’re not constantly feeling rushed, you still have time for your families and your hobbies or personal time, then your current system may already be working well. Hiring help is usually about creating more capacity, but if you already have the capacity you want, you may not need to change anything.

Three, your workload fits comfortably into your week. This is kind of related, and it’s often the clearest signal whether a virtual assistant is a yes or a no. Many business owners reach a point where there are always more tasks than there are hours in the day. The inbox keeps filling up, operational tasks pile up, and there are projects they know would help the business grow, but they never seem to get to them. And that’s when leverage becomes powerful. But if your current responsibilities already fit comfortably into your week, you’re able

to get everything done that you want to get done for your business, you may not need support yet.

In my experience, business owners usually hire help for one of two reasons. They want a bigger business, or they want a bigger life. Maybe you want to grow the company. Maybe you want to reclaim evenings or weekends. Maybe you want to stop spending half your day inside your inbox. And that’s when delegation to a virtual assistant can become incredibly powerful.

Now, you’re not sure, let me redo that. If you’re not sure whether you actually need help yet, one of the best things you can do is a simple time audit. And that’s why I created a guide called the Executive Efficiency Blueprint. Inside the guide, there’s a simple exercise that helps you track where your time is going and identify what work you could delegate. You can download that.

you can download that guide below in the show notes. And in the next episode of the series, we’re going to talk about one of the most common hiring mistakes business owners make.

Because when people decide they’re ready to hire, their first hire is often the wrong one. They often hire a cold caller, an ISA, a lead generator, and they assume that more leads are going to solve their business problems. But what often happens is the opposite. They just create more work for themselves because now they’ve got more business to handle. So in the next episode, we’ll talk about why an executive assistant is often the best first hire for an entrepreneur or business owner. So be sure wherever you are listening

to subscribe so that you can join me again next week for another episode of Scale Smart Grow Fast where I’m gonna share all about the right first hire. See you then.

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Growth does not break most businesses. Accumulated decisions do

What starts as momentum turns into operational drag. The inbox fills faster than it clears. Follow-ups stretch longer than they should. Execution slows, not because the business lacks demand, but because everything still requires the founder’s attention.

The result is predictable. More activity. Less progress. Leadership bandwidth becomes the limiting factor.

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The Hidden Constraint

The issue is not workload. It is structural dependency.

When the business is designed around the founder as the execution hub, every workflow inherits friction. Emails wait for replies. Deals stall between steps. Internal coordination requires constant oversight.

At a certain scale, this stops being inefficient and starts becoming a risk.

The system depends on one decision-maker to keep it moving. That creates exposure across:

• Client experience
• Deal velocity
• Internal execution speed
• Decision-making clarity

This is where most operators misdiagnose the problem. They assume they need better tools, more discipline, or longer hours.

The constraint is none of those.

It is the lack of operational leverage.

The Operating Shift

The shift is not about doing less. It is about deciding what should never require you again.

Operational leverage comes from removing the founder from repeatable execution, not optimizing how they perform it.

This requires a different lens.

Instead of asking, “How do I get this done faster?” the question becomes:

“Should I be involved in this at all?”

This reframes delegation from task relief to ownership transfer.

The standard becomes clear:

If the task does not require founder-level judgment, it should not require founder involvement.

This is where scaling discipline is applied. Not by increasing output, but by reducing dependency.

Execution in Practice

Leverage is built through structure, not intention. The difference shows up in how workflows are designed and executed.

1. Workflow Ownership Eliminates Re-Decision

Most founders delegate tasks but retain decision-making.

They assign pieces of work but stay responsible for outcomes. This creates a loop where execution continues to come back for approval, clarification, or correction.

Ownership transfer breaks that loop.

Instead of delegating “respond to emails,” the system owns inbox management and follow-up discipline.

Instead of “schedule meetings,” the system controls calendar flow.

Instead of “update CRM,” the system maintains pipeline visibility.

This removes repeated decision points and stabilizes execution.

2. Cognitive Load Reduction Drives Speed

Decision fatigue is rarely caused by large decisions. It is caused by volume.

Dozens of small, low-leverage decisions consume the same cognitive bandwidth required for high-stakes thinking.

Execution systems reduce that load.

• Defined follow-up processes
• Standardized communication patterns
• Clear ownership of coordination tasks

The result is fewer decisions, faster execution, and improved consistency.

This is not efficiency for its own sake. It is capacity creation.

3. Separating Revenue-Critical Activities

The founder’s role becomes narrower and more focused.

Only activities that directly impact growth remain:

• Strategic direction
• Client acquisition conversations
• Relationship building
• Capital allocation decisions

Everything else is structured to run without them.

This is where leverage compounds.

For example, content creation becomes a system. The founder records once. Distribution, editing, and repurposing happen without additional involvement.

Client acquisition follows the same pattern. The founder handles the initial conversation. Follow-ups, coordination, and next steps move forward without requiring re-entry.

This separation protects leadership bandwidth while increasing output.

4. Execution Systems Increase Deal Velocity

When workflows no longer depend on the founder, speed improves across the business.

Follow-ups happen on time. Communication becomes consistent. Opportunities progress without delay.

This is not about working faster. It is about removing bottlenecks.

Execution becomes predictable instead of reactive.

For operators managing deals, capital, or client relationships, this directly impacts outcomes.

Speed is not just convenience. It is a competitive advantage.

Leverage Outcome

When operational leverage is implemented correctly, the business expands without increasing founder effort.

Three shifts occur:

First, leadership bandwidth is restored. Decisions are made with clarity instead of urgency.

Second, execution stabilizes. Workflows run consistently without requiring intervention.

Third, growth no longer increases complexity at the founder level. The system absorbs it.

This is where capital efficiency improves. More output is generated from the same input, without increasing risk exposure tied to the founder’s capacity.

Leverage is not about time savings. It is about control.

The Immediate Move

Leadership bandwidth is the constraint.

If your business still depends on you to move, the system is incomplete. More effort will not solve it. More discipline will not solve it.

Structure will.

Ownership must move at the workflow level. Decision-making must be reduced, not optimized. Execution systems must remove you from repeatable actions so you can focus on what actually requires your judgment.

The goal is not to stay involved and move faster. The goal is to build a system that moves without you.

Full Podcast Transcript

Let me share a scenario and see if this feels familiar. You sit down at your computer in the morning with a plan. You’re going to work on something important today. Maybe it’s strategy. Maybe it’s marketing. Maybe it’s finally tackling that project that would actually move the business forward.

But then the day starts, and suddenly you’re replying to emails, scheduling meetings, following up with clients, fixing something in your CRM, tracking down a document, answering a quick question from someone that somehow takes not so

Answering a quick question from someone that somehow eats up half an hour, approving something, sending something, updating something, and before you know it, it’s five or six p.m. You were busy all day, but somehow you didn’t actually move the business forward. And if that experience sounds familiar, you are not alone, and that realization is what completely changed how I run my businesses.

Now before we dive into the story, quick note for our regular listeners. Normally on this podcast, Scale Smart Grow Fast, you hear my husband hosting the show. But for the next few episodes, we’re doing something a little different. I’m stepping into Guest Host, a short series where we talk about…

I’m stepping in to guest host a short series where we talk about something that’s really central to what we do at Workergenix. How entrepreneurs free up time, delegate effectively, and stop spending their day on tasks that don’t actually require the founder or leader of the business. And if we haven’t met before, I’m a co-founder of Workergenix.

I’m also still a real estate investor and a licensed agent today. And that’s actually where this whole story and wild adventure started. The reason we started Workergenix is because of something I discovered in my own business that was so transformational, we wanted other entrepreneurs to be able to access it too. And that’s where it all began.

Now when you first start a business, there’s a phase that almost everyone goes through. The solopreneur phase. When you’re basically every department in the company, you’re the CEO, the marketing department, the operations team, the bookkeeper, the customer support, IT, and sometimes you’re also the janitor, right? You’re wearing all of the hats.

In real estate, we call this being a solo agent, but honestly, the same thing happens in almost every business. Consultants experience it, coaches experience it, small business owners experience it, startup founders experience it. And when I became a real estate agent in 2018, that’s exactly where I was. And to be fair, the business was working.

I was doing about five million in annual sales, which was roughly 12 transactions a year, and I was making about $100,000 in income. Things were solid, but there was a hidden problem. Everything depended on me. Every email, every contract, every client communication, every marketing task, every operational detail.

If something needed to get done, I was the one doing it. And when you’re in that stage, it can actually feel pretty normal because you tell yourself, well, this is what running a business feels like.

Now, somewhere during this time, I will say my husband had read The Four Hour Workweek, which, if you’re married to an entrepreneur, is always a slightly dangerous moment because suddenly your spouse comes to you with business ideas they just read in a book, and he kept telling me you should hire a virtual assistant. And I had the very mature and thoughtful response of, absolutely not. I was like, how does that even work? Something remote? Helping you redo this.

I was like, how would that even work? Someone remote helping run my business, and I was so busy running it the day to day that I couldn’t even fathom taking the time to figure out how to make it happen. I was also convinced that it would take longer to explain the task and hand it off than to just do it myself, which is something a lot of entrepreneurs say. And it feels so true in the moment, but it’s also one of the most dangerous traps we fall into.

Then something happened that changed my perspective and honestly changed my entire life trajectory. I joined a real estate team at Keller Williams.

I joined a real estate team at Keller Williams and that team used virtual assistants inside the business. And this was the first time I saw the model actually working and it was eye-opening.

Because the assistants were handling a lot of the back end work that normally eats up an entrepreneur’s time. Things like marketing logistics, administrative tasks, operational coordination, which meant the agents on the team could spend more of their time doing things that actually grow a business. They could meet clients, build relationships, and generate deals. And this is the first time I really saw what leverage looks like in a business.

Then my family made a big move. We relocated from Northern Virginia to Chattanooga, Tennessee, which meant I had to rebuild my real estate business from scratch.

I had to leave that team I had just joined. I was back to the solopreneur world, and I was now in a place where I knew no one. Now in real estate, we talk about something called your sphere of influence. That basically means your network, the people you know who trust you and who eventually do business with you or refer business to you.

And this concept exists in many industries I know. If you’re a consultant, your first clients usually come from your network. If you run a service business, referrals often come from people who already know you. And if you’re an entrepreneur launching something new, your early customers are often people who already trust you. But when I moved to Chattanooga, I had none of that. No network, no referral base, no past clients in the area. And to make things even more interesting, I had three children under the age of five at the time.

At this point, I worked with a dear friend who’s also a business coach to figure out what my strategy should be. And we made two key decisions. First, I decided to focus on working with real estate investors, which was a niche that I understood well and could have a competitive advantage in. Second, I finally listened and I hired a virtual assistant.

If I was going to rebuild this business from scratch, there was no way I could do every task myself.

Now the assistant I ended up hiring handled about 80 percent of my computer and phone-based tasks. They did things like email management, contract preparation, bookkeeping, CRM updates, client coordination, marketing logistics, video editing, and event planning. All the operational work that has to happen in a business but doesn’t necessarily require the founder or CEO to personally do it.

And the results were dramatic. I hired that assistant in January of 2021. By August of that year, in a brand new market where I knew almost nobody, I had completed 54 transactions and about 10 million in volume. Compare that to my prior business in the market where I had a sphere but no assistant, and I was doing 12 transactions for 5 million in volume.

Eventually, this business grew into a real estate team that did about 27 million in volume annually before I sold that team. And one of the biggest reasons that this was possible was leverage.

By having that virtual assistant do all of those operational tasks, I was freed up to do my top 20 percent, which is what actually brought in new business.

So, for example, I could record the video that was going out on YouTube, and all I had to do was record the video.

My assistant would take it, edit it, do the thumbnail, write the caption, post it on social media, cut it up into reels to put on all the other things, and all of that happened and brought me a new business when I only had to take a few minutes to record that initial video.

That same kind of leverage happened with my other top 20 percent activities.

So let’s say I went and did some lead generation and brought in new potential clients. I would do the initial discovery call with those clients, see what they were looking for, what they needed.

And then I would have a system where I could hand off to my executive assistant all the follow-up work that had to happen so that I could move on to that next discovery call, which was the piece only I could do.

So that my executive assistant could be doing the email introductions to lenders or to property managers or to contractors. If this was a buyer, they could get that search set up in the MLS for that client. They could do all that follow-up that takes up so much of our time after we have these really amazing meetings so that way we can go do more of these amazing meetings and have more business.

So that’s what really started this whole Workergenix.

And that, my friends, was the experience that eventually led to us starting Workergenix, so we could help other entrepreneurs and business owners get that same kind of leverage and help with a virtual executive assistant and really have their businesses succeed and grow while giving them a bigger business and a bigger life.

If you’re feeling like your business keeps you busy but is not necessarily moving forward, I created a guide called the Executive Efficiency Blueprint. It walks you through a simple framework to identify what you could delegate and how business leaders can reclaim 30 or more hours per week with a virtual executive assistant.

You can download it below in the show notes.

And in the next episode of this series, join me again next week. I’m going to talk about something that might surprise you because even though we run a company that provides virtual assistance, sometimes I actually tell people you shouldn’t hire one.

And knowing when not to hire help can save you a lot of time and money.

So be sure that you’ve subscribed and join me again next week for another episode of Scale Smart Grow Fast.

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Lean, Profitable Operations: The Real Constraint Behind Growing Companies

Many entrepreneurs believe the next milestone—more revenue, more scale, more recognition—will finally bring fulfillment. Yet for many founders, growth only amplifies burnout, isolation, and a quiet sense of operational overload.

In a recent episode of Scale Smart, Grow Fast, host Harley Green sat down with experienced operators to unpack a similar pattern that shows up inside growing firms: the moment when scale starts creating more weight instead of more freedom.

This conversation is a reminder that how you scale matters just as much as how far you scale.

Because once companies move past the early stages of growth, the constraint rarely becomes strategy or opportunity.

It becomes execution.

Opening Scaling Tension

Growth rarely breaks because leadership lacks vision.

It breaks because execution becomes heavier as the organization expands.

Follow-ups slip across inboxes and CRMs. Reporting lags. Decision loops multiply. Teams grow, yet too much still routes through the founder or executive team.

What initially looks like progress often hides a quieter issue: operational drag.

Small inefficiencies compound. Ownership becomes blurred. Decision speed slows.

For founders, operators, real estate investors, and capital allocators managing growing portfolios or operating companies, the pattern is familiar.

Revenue increases, but leadership bandwidth shrinks.

At that point, the question is no longer how fast can we grow?

The question becomes:

Can our execution systems actually support the scale we are creating?

The Hidden Constraint

Most businesses assume revenue is their limiting factor.

But inside founder-led companies between $3M and $50M in revenue, the real constraint is usually something else:

Leadership bandwidth.

When founders remain the operational center of gravity, every decision becomes a queue.

Teams pause for approvals. Follow-ups accumulate. Work stalls waiting for direction.

Over time this creates a hidden tax on the organization.

Decision fatigue increases.

Execution speed decreases.

Margin quietly erodes.

From the outside the company still appears to be growing.

Internally, however, the system is operating under strain.

This is where many companies misdiagnose the problem.

They assume they need:

• more hires
• more tools
• more meetings

But without operational discipline, those additions often increase complexity faster than they increase capacity.

True operational leverage comes from clarity, not activity.

The Operating Shift

The shift required for profitable scaling is not motivational.

It is structural.

Companies must move from personality-driven execution to system-driven execution.

In early stages, businesses rely heavily on informal coordination. Everyone understands what is happening because the team is small.

But as organizations grow, roles specialize.

Sales owns revenue.

Operations owns delivery.

Marketing owns pipeline.

Customer success owns retention.

Without defined execution systems, this specialization introduces friction.

Work begins to stall between departments rather than within them.

Operational discipline addresses this through several mechanisms:

• Clear ownership of next steps
• Explicit decision rights
• Defined handoff protocols
• Execution systems that reduce re-decisions

When those systems exist, work moves forward without constant founder intervention.

When they do not, leadership becomes the operating system of the company.

And no organization scales efficiently under that model.

Execution in Practice

Several execution insights surfaced throughout the panel conversation.

These are not theoretical frameworks. They are patterns operators consistently see in scaling companies.

1. The Risk of Unexamined Processes

One of the most common sources of operational drag is process inertia.

Teams continue running workflows that were designed years earlier, even though the context has changed.

Extra approvals remain.

Redundant reporting steps accumulate.

Small inefficiencies compound across thousands of weekly actions.

Operators often discover that something as small as a three-click delay in a process becomes a measurable cost once it occurs across an entire organization.

Execution discipline requires regular process audits.

If the system was built for a smaller company, it must evolve as the company grows.

Otherwise, the organization ends up scaling outdated processes.

2. Metrics Must Support Execution, Not Noise

Many organizations fall into one of two traps.

Some track almost no operational metrics.

Others track so many that signal disappears inside the noise.

Effective scaling requires focused metrics tied directly to operational throughput.

These may include:

• onboarding velocity
• customer implementation timelines
• operational cycle times
• handoff completion rates

When the right metrics exist, leaders can see exactly where execution friction appears.

Without them, organizations guess.

And guessing is expensive.

3. Handoffs Create the Majority of Operational Friction

Most operational breakdowns occur between teams, not inside them.

Sales hands off to implementation.

Implementation hands off to account management.

Account management hands off to customer success.

Every transition introduces ambiguity unless ownership is explicit.

When roles and expectations are unclear, tasks bounce between departments.

Responsibility diffuses.

Execution slows.

Operators often improve throughput simply by reducing unnecessary handoffs and clarifying decision rights.

4. Founder Bottlenecks Create Decision Fatigue

Another consistent signal inside growing companies is the founder who must approve everything.

At first this feels responsible.

Leaders want to maintain quality and oversight.

But over time it creates a different problem.

Decision fatigue.

Leaders become overwhelmed by low-leverage decisions while strategic thinking receives less attention.

Teams learn to wait rather than act.

Delegation alone does not solve this.

What solves it is structured delegation, where authority is transferred along with clear execution frameworks.

When this happens, leadership bandwidth expands and the organization regains speed.

Leverage Outcome

Operational leverage is often misunderstood.

It does not mean working longer hours.

It means expanding organizational capacity without expanding leadership effort.

Companies that scale efficiently tend to share several characteristics:

• Decisions happen closer to the work
• Ownership is clearly defined
• Execution systems reduce repeated clarification
• Leadership focuses on strategy and capital allocation

When these conditions exist, the founder stops acting as the operating system of the business.

Execution becomes system-driven rather than personality-driven.

And that is when growth becomes sustainable.

Connect With the Guest

To learn more about the panelists and their work:

Amy Ezell
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amyezell/

Blaz Marolt
Website: https://blazmarolt.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/blazmarolt/

Chantel Hirschel
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chantel-hirschel/

Jeremy Hass
Website: https://prefixops.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyhass/

The Immediate Move

Most leaders believe their biggest constraint is growth.

In reality, the constraint is leadership bandwidth.

When decisions accumulate at the top of the organization, execution slows and cognitive load increases. Teams hesitate, ownership becomes unclear, and leaders spend more time coordinating work than directing the company.

Scaling effectively requires structure.

Clear decision frameworks eliminate re-decisions. Defined ownership transfers responsibility away from leadership bottlenecks. Execution systems ensure work moves without constant oversight.

The objective is not to control more work.

The objective is to ensure the organization moves forward without you carrying it.

Watch this before you hire your next support role.

Book a discovery call to see how the right executive support helps you scale with clarity, alignment, and control without burnout or chaos. Click here to subscribe.

Full Podcast Transcript

All right, welcome to Executive Edge Live. I’m Harley Green, founder and CEO of Workergenics. At Workergenics, we help high-performing founders and operators reclaim time and leadership focus by providing executive-level assistance support delivered as a managed service. Executive Edge Live is one way we support the broader business community with peer-level conversations about what actually works inside growing businesses. Today’s session is focused on lean, profitable operations.

Most leadership teams are not slow because of strategy. They’re slow because of operational drag, back-to-back calls, a buried inbox, follow-up scattered, reporting delayed, small inefficiencies that compound, and margin quietly erodes. This is not about cutting for survival. It’s about building execution discipline that protects operators and the systems that they’ve built to help move the priorities forward without a constant rescue.

And a quick note before we begin, today’s session will also be featured on our podcast, Scale Smart, Grow Fast. So if something resonates with you, you’ll be able to revisit the conversation wherever you listen to your podcasts. Let’s start today by meeting our panelists. Chantelle, we’ll start with you.

Hi, I’m Chantal Herschel. I am at SANA Benefits as the Director of Revenue Operations right now and I’m calling in from North Idaho.

Very nice. Welcome Chantel. Jeremy, we’ll go to you next.

My name is Jeremy Haas. I am the founder and CEO of PrefixOps. I’m based out of Los Angeles, California.

Welcome, Jeremy. Thank you. And Blaz, how are you?

Hey, I’m good. So I’m from Slovenia and I’m a fractional operations business partner manager, whatever the companies need to make their operations run smoothly.

Awesome, welcome. Thank you for joining us. So first question is open to the panel. When you hear lean profitable operations, what’s the most common operational drag you see quietly eroding margin inside growing businesses?

I think sometimes there’s a lot of like, we always did it that way, so nobody’s reviewed a process. And it could be like an extra three clicks that are really dumb that you don’t need anymore that’s from a process six years ago. And a lot of times people just haven’t reviewed their processes in a long time.

Yeah, I completely agree with that. I’ve come from working in the federal government here in the US and that was the most common phrase you hear when you’re working on things and it’s taken so long. This is how we’ve always done it. And that slows things down way too much. I’ll also add administrative bottlenecks. There are meetings just to have meetings. That happens all the time. Next thing you know you have ten meetings in an eight hour day.

I’ll say that with the phrase we’ve always done it this way. In my teams that was a sentence that was forbidden to use. People actually had to think afterwards. With growing firms I also see companies wanting to grow at all costs. They chase arbitrary numbers like one million, ten million, fifty million in revenue but forget the operations behind it. Operational costs go up and margins shrink.

Have you found that magic pill yet to grow without increasing your costs? Because I haven’t.

I haven’t either. I’m usually the one telling founders it’s better to be a one million dollar company with an eighty percent profit margin than a ten million dollar company with a ten percent margin.

I think sometimes people throw bodies at problems. Instead of investing ten thousand dollars into technology that could increase production by fifty percent, they hire two additional employees that cost one hundred thousand.

A lot of companies scale to ten million and then realize they are not profitable, so they start cutting.

That actually happened in one company I worked with. They scaled rapidly and then discovered margins were so low that if revenue slowed for two months they would struggle to pay salaries.

Awesome. Great answers on that first question. Amy, thank you for joining us. Since you joined a little late, would you give everyone an introduction about what you do?

Yeah, I apologize. I was on the wrong link earlier. My background is leading field operations for a point-of-care media company for nearly two decades. Recently I transitioned into launching my own fractional operations practice.

We’re going to go right back at you with another question. Where do you most often see execution friction between teams that impacts profitability?

I think it shows up at handoffs across the customer journey. Sales to implementation, implementation to account management, deployment teams, and so on. Every handoff creates opportunities for friction. The biggest issue is time to value. When onboarding stalls or systems break, the customer value timeline slows.

If those handoffs are not clearly defined, teams end up reworking tasks and passing responsibility back and forth like a hot potato.

Clarity is the key. Early startups know what everyone is doing, but as teams specialize communication gaps appear and people start pointing fingers.

Everyone starts pointing fingers and that wastes time.

Jeremy, you specialize in moving organizations from reactive processes to proactive systems. At what point does rapid growth become a warning sign?

The signal I watch for is when executives say things like “who owns this?” or when everyone waits for the founder to approve small decisions. Founders often struggle to delegate early on and teams begin waiting on leadership for everything.

I’ve seen that happen in large companies too. When employees cannot make even small purchasing decisions productivity drops.

Exactly. I had that issue in my first startup. Everything waited on my approval.

Eventually you lose good talent because people want autonomy and decision authority.

That’s also a cultural issue. Empowering employees who work closest to customers builds trust and engagement.

In places like the Bay Area people want compensation but they also want to feel valued and have ownership in their roles.

Chantel, from a revenue operations perspective, where do misaligned handoffs between marketing, sales, and customer success slow profitability?

Often it starts with strategy misalignment at the leadership level. Sales, marketing, and customer success may set goals independently that are not aligned.

Teams also operate inside separate tools and systems. Marketing tools, CRM systems, project management platforms — when they don’t connect properly, handoffs break down.

Sales might promise customers something during implementation that operations cannot deliver.

Many companies treat operations as execution rather than strategy, but operators often see the operational bottlenecks first.

Exactly. Operators frequently get labeled the “negative voice” because they highlight feasibility problems.

But asking why is part of the job.

Operators are responsible for identifying risk before it becomes a crisis.

When founders become the operational bottleneck, the signals appear quickly. Founders work constantly, approve every decision, and still feel overwhelmed.

Decision fatigue builds.

Leaders end up discussing minor details instead of strategic priorities.

When founders take time off they still monitor everything because they don’t trust the system yet.

That constant involvement slows projects because teams wait for decisions.

Decision fatigue is real. I’ve experienced it personally and it leads to burnout.

Working twenty hours a day doesn’t improve productivity. In fact it reduces it.

Thanks to all our panelists for sharing insights today. Lean profitable operations don’t come from cutting more. They come from clear ownership, stronger follow-through, and leadership no longer acting as the operational bottleneck.

You can download the Executive Efficiency Blueprint at workergenics.com/EEBlive.

Thanks for joining us and we’ll see you on the next Executive Edge Live and the Scale Smart Grow Fast podcast.

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Founder Bottleneck: Why You’re Solving the Wrong Problems as You Scale

“Many leaders don’t struggle because they lack drive. They struggle because they’re too close to the work to see what really matters.”

That opening line captures a reality many founder-led professional service firms face as they grow from $3M to $50M and beyond.

Growth increases complexity. Complexity increases noise. And when leaders stay buried in execution, they start solving the wrong problems.

When Everything Feels Urgent, Nothing Is Strategic

Sergio Santinelli, COO of Baseline, described stepping into complex operations that felt “messy, overloaded,” with “a lot of motion but not enough clarity.”

This is common in scaling firms:

• Requests from every direction
  
• Compliance and revenue pressures colliding
  
• Teams debating solutions
  
• Founders wearing multiple hats
  

When you are “receiving a lot of noise from all the different sides,” you default to busy work instead of strategic thinking.

Urgency replaces prioritization.

That is how the founder bottleneck forms.

The Pattern: Collect the Noise, Then Create Space

Sergio shared a simple but powerful process.

First: collect all the noise.
Acknowledge what feels on fire. List the signals instead of reacting.

Second: create space.
Take a walk. Remove yourself physically from urgency. Force abstraction.

That distance allows you to ask the right question:

“What are we actually trying to solve?”

Without space, leaders react.
With space, patterns emerge.

Clarity does not come from pushing harder. It comes from stepping back.

Trade-Off Thinking vs. Reactive Thinking

In regulated environments like fintech and lending, decisions carry layered trade-offs:

• Revenue impact
  
• Operational cost
  
• Risk exposure
  
• Cost of waiting
  

Instead of reacting emotionally, Sergio described assigning scale values to these variables and quantifying trade-offs. He emphasized evaluating reversibility and asking what outcome you are truly optimizing for.

Are you optimizing for revenue? Certainty? Guidance? Risk reduction?

Without structured trade-off thinking, urgency wins.
With it, prioritization becomes disciplined.

The Execution Hub Problem

Scaling often fails not because teams lack talent, but because founders remain the cognitive hub.

When team members bring problems without proposals, leadership bandwidth collapses.

Sergio’s rule is direct:

“What’s your proposal?”

That shift transfers ownership. It forces structured thinking at the edge of execution. It reduces decision fatigue and strengthens accountability.

Delegation is not complete until thinking transfers.

If you are still the final interpreter of every decision, you are still the bottleneck.

Checklists Reduce Cognitive Load

In lending operations, document reviews became circular. The same loan file required repeated mental processing.

The solution was not effort. It was structure.

Formalized checklists removed repeated decision-making and reduced cognitive drag.

For professional service firms, this applies directly to:

• Client onboarding
  
• CRM follow-ups
  
• Reporting workflows
  
• Document coordination
  

If you repeatedly solve the same issue, the problem is not capacity. It is missing structure.

Structure protects focus. Focus protects leadership bandwidth.

Context Before Autonomy

Sergio also emphasized onboarding with deep context.

When new hires understand the broader objective, they make stronger decisions independently. Without context, escalations increase and founders remain trapped in clarification loops.

Ownership is built through context.

When people understand the “why,” they bring solutions instead of questions.

Connect With the Guest

To learn more about Sergio Santinelli and his work at Baseline:

Website: https://www.baselinesoftware.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sergiosantinelliv/?locale=en_US

The Immediate Move

Sergio Santinelli’s perspective reinforces a simple truth: proximity is the constraint in most growing firms.

When leaders stay buried in execution, clarity disappears. When clarity disappears, prioritization breaks down. When prioritization breaks down, growth feels heavier instead of cleaner.

Protecting leadership bandwidth requires:

Intentional distance
Defined decision frameworks
Structured trade-off evaluation
Clear ownership at the edge of execution
Systems that reduce repeated cognitive load

Growth should increase clarity, not compress your time.

If it feels heavier, that is the signal to rebuild structure — not push harder.

Create space. Define the real constraint. Transfer ownership. Then move.

Watch this before you hire your next support role.

Book a discovery call to see how the right executive support helps you scale with clarity, alignment, and control without burnout or chaos. Click here to subscribe.

Full Podcast Transcript

Hey everybody, welcome back to the Scale Smart Grow Fast podcast. Now, many leaders don’t struggle because they lack drive. They struggle because they’re too close to the work to see what really matters. Today, I’m joined by the COO of Baseline, who has scaled regulated fintech operations across multiple markets. We’re going to talk about why leaders often end up solving the wrong problems and how stepping back, building the right systems and creating operational space leads to clearer decisions, stronger execution and scalable growth. Welcome to the podcast. How are you today?

Thank you so much. Excited to be here. Thank you for having me.

It’s our pleasure. Now, tell us a little bit more about your background. What brought you to what you’re doing today at Baseline?

Thank you. So it’s actually quite interesting because I spend most of my career just stepping into business with complex operations. I’ve been in lending, obviously the SaaS now at baseline, and some other type of operations, usually, sometimes they feel messy, overloaded, and I’m just naturally drawn to solving these problems where there’s a lot of motion but not enough clarity.

into what we should be doing. So just quick, quick, story is that early in my career, I actually used to joke that there’s three roles where you never want to be in. Number one is operations, projects, and maintenance. And that’s because all the time you have that responsibility, but when everything goes well, no one actually gives you any credit for those. And exactly. But when something goes wrong,

goalkeeper.

You’re just observing all the blame, even if you had nothing to do with it, right? Just sometimes things break and but in any case those three roles you always they want to blame so Naturally, my intention was never to be part of operations, right? Which later in life, you know, I realized that some of my strengths Just kept me coming back into resolving this type of problems particularly when there was a lot of

you know, lot of motion, not enough clarity, feel things felt messy overloaded. And I instinctively step back and abstract myself from some of those, you know, problems, the noise, and that system of creating distance allowed me to see the problem more clearly. And that’s where I started to differentiate in some of the patterns and identifying the constraints.

And basically that’s what’s keeping me back into operations and the opportunity of bringing obviously that structure to the complexity and sometimes how it pays clarity.

Now, let’s dive into that a little bit. Maybe you could share or expand kind of what that aha moment was when you first realized that like being too deep in the work was actually limiting the leadership effectiveness.

Absolutely. So I think, I think there is, there’s a couple of moments in my life when I realized that, but let me go back into school for the very first one. Right. So I, I’m a mechanical engineer by training. So when I w when I was at school studying, there were some times where, you know, the problem was so complex that there was no clear answer on how to solve it. And that’s when I started realizing that just taking a step back and acknowledging what the problem was.

sometimes even sharing the problem with someone that had no clue of what you were trying to explain them help a lot. And that abstraction of the problem now consistently became part of my life. Later on in life, various roles, I was able to identify precisely that moment where there was this complex operation, we were, you know, drowning in requests or something in a system that broke specifically.

And I caught myself immediately taking a step back and say, okay, wait, what’s the actual deal? What are we trying to solve here? And that’s when I realized like, okay. So this is actually the process where I default to into solving or identifying what the problem is, or trying to bring some space between the problem and myself to really, you know, promote that clarity and understanding of the.

Yeah, I’m glad you mentioned that kind of stepping back and like trying to see what the real problem is. And, many leaders out there are often buried in the execution of the business. What types of problems do you see them consistently trying to solve? And maybe why are they not the real constraints or problems that they should be looking at?

I think that’s a great question. That’s primarily because when everything is urgent, nothing feels important enough, right? So you’re actually just receiving a lot of noise from all the different sides that you’re, you know, as an entrepreneur, you’re holding multiple hats at the same time, right? So there’s a bunch of things that seem to be urgent and you’re just, you know, doing busy work all the time before really stepping back into understanding, okay.

Yes.

What are the things that I should be actually solving and the things that, know, yeah, I mean, they’re urgent, but they’re probably not the most urgent thing and will nothing happen. if you decide not to. So yeah, I can, I can step and, and, know, dive deeper into how sometimes I resolve based on that problem. If you want me to go there, right. Awesome. So, for the most part, way I process this is.

Yeah, let’s do it.

The very first approach that I take is just collect all the noise. Sometimes you just have to take it in. Collect all the noise. You understand, yes, this is on fire. This is on fire. This other thing is on fire. Or apparently, it seems to be on fire. And then you take all that noise and you create some space. And that space sometimes is a physical space. So you go out, take a walk. A quick walk sometimes helps clear your mind. It’s like that.

Mm-hmm.

removes that all that urgency and it’s a five minute walk to really understand, okay, this is the thing that I should be solving, right? Summary times is it’s way more complex than that. It’s, and, and it’s not something that you can resolve within the five minute walk. So in that case, what I like to do or what I default doing is precisely taking that, explain the problem approach. Right. And when you’re explaining this, I usually

You know, I used to call my mom right back in the day, but nowadays it’s just like, just take someone that is willing to listen to the problem without providing too much of an advice. I’m not looking for advice. I’m not looking for solutions. I’m just looking for someone to react to the way I’m explaining the problem. And that helps a lot because, you know, it forces all these noise into a pattern and it forces your brain into providing something articulated for someone else to explain. Right. So I’m, if I’m facing, let’s say.

problem with a lot of issues in one particular aspect of our platform these days. I’ll just take a step back and say, hey, listen, listen to me. This is a problem that I’m facing and I just go and these are all the noise. These are all the signals that I’m taking. This is all, you know, the problem that seems to be popping up. And that usually creates the pattern that I was looking for. Like it helps me bridge those gaps of my understanding.

And helps my brain, you know, start connecting by words, connecting the problem when data actually does not help. Right. I usually default to, the missing questions. So when, when I go through these exercises and I still don’t have the answer, that usually means that I don’t have the answers to all the questions that I’m looking at. So it’s like, okay, what are, what is.

Hmm.

Right.

What’s the piece that I’m missing to solve these? Like there’s a, I see these as a puzzle. So I’m missing a couple of, a couple of, you know, little pieces of that puzzle for me to understand what the problem actually is. but I wouldn’t be able to get to that unless I’m trying to explain it. And all of a sudden it’s like, well, that doesn’t make sense. Cause I’m not making sense on my explanation to you. And I cannot devise the actual problem that I’m trying to solve.

Yeah. That’s an incredible framework and great step-by-step kind of natural progression there that I hope everyone was taking notes while he sharing that. Let’s kind of switch gears. You know, we’ve talked kind of in general terms about challenges and issues. Maybe talking about like teams and, you know, dealing with people, that’s a whole nother set of challenges that kind of come in there with personalities and things like that and human nature. You know, can you share some like moments when you’ve found that maybe stepping back and not pushing harder led to a better outcome with your team and what changed once you gained that distance.

Absolutely. So you know what? That’s it’s amazing that you, that you asked me that question because that’s something we experience, let’s say almost every week, right? you know, there’s like in your team, you need different personalities for your team to be complete. And that difference in person, and it is usually means that there’s frictions on the approach and even on the solutions that you’re trying to reach with each of the problems. Right. So for example, sometimes we’re trying to solve a UX problem.

Right. And the engineering team wants to solve it in a pragmatic way. Right. So yeah, we can, we can get really deep into the details of, look, this is a theory of the UX design and this is why the bottom needs to be this color and all those different pieces. And the same thing with the, with the technical side is like, no, no, but you know, the integration, the tables, the flow, like all those pieces come into place. And now what really happens is.

You listen to both of them and yes, they’re making their arguments. And obviously it’s not on purpose, but our egos are coming out, right? Like this is, this is the best solution. I’m very confident. feel very strongly about the solution. Now taking a step back is okay. What is the actual problem we’re trying to solve? Do we have, and sometimes it’s even what’s the cost of solving each of these two problems, which is, which is even more powerful sometimes because sometimes what you’re trying to solve those

Yeah.

two different problems at the same time. That’s because you don’t have a clear understanding of what’s a trade off between one and the other. So to me, what happens is we try to take a step back and say, okay, first of all, are any of these two reversibles? Like, can we make the mistake of going the wrong way? And what’s the cost of making that mistake? So if the cost is low stakes, we just take a head look, then.

It doesn’t really matter. It’s a matter of preference. We can test both of them and just move ahead and unblock us. Right. That’s number one. Number two will be, wait, this is actually very, a very complex problem that we need a certain solution for it. Right. So now we’re optimizing for the solution. that the solution is the solution really one or the other, or is a combination of both of them, but sometimes explaining what the actual solution is or what the problem is. Look,

We’re optimizing for certainty here. We’re optimizing for guidance to the borrower. We’re optimizing to, back in the day, we were optimizing for, let’s say, revenue collection. So revenue collection is the goal. So does that mean that we need to provide more friction or less friction on this particular thing? So that stepping back into, hold on a second. Let’s articulate what we’re solving for.

And what is the expected outcome sometimes. And that usually helps a lot, you know, just unblocking the team into focusing on the solution and become solution-oriented rather than providing more arguments into each of their opinions.

I love that. And I’m kind of curious because the next question I have, think might tie into the similar approach, but I want to hear it from you. When you’ve worked in different kind of complex markets where there’s a lot of compliance risks, know, FinTech, lending, all these things have a lot of wrappers and other layers that get added on it other than just what the user wants and the tech team wants. How do you balance speed, accountability and consistency without slowing growth of the organization?

That is a great question. So for the most part, it’s all about the trade-off, right? So the speed comes from focusing on the right things in my experience. So obviously you can do your 80-20, right? And that’ll help you focus into what’s the 20%. You know the rule. What’s the 20 % that will yield you 80 % of the outcome. So that’s number one. Number two is what is the trade-off? the trade-off will be in the past where

What we’ve done is we’ve assigned kind of a cost of, you can do it at cost of waiting or a cost of operation. that is what is the cost of revenue if I do this or if I don’t do this, what is the cost of operation and what is the potential losses or risks. If I do this, it’s kind of a bit of risk management, but the front with, taking into consideration more aspects of the business. wouldn’t take more than four in a particular time.

And you can assign, let’s say scales to each one of them. So for example, you’re going to sign, if we’re talking about operations, I can assign the scale of like, there’s no cost of operations. Like no one, it wouldn’t affect us to do something like this, or it’s not affecting us today. Whatever we’re doing, or you can go all the way up to this is on fire because this is costing us a ton of money to operate. And we’re basically doing, you know, concierge services for X specific tasks that we have.

So understanding that you can quantify basically the scale of these four aspects and then decide, okay, so these are like, obviously if you put from scale one to 10, one to four, in this case, you can, they can add them all. And then you will have kind of your cost of operation. You can even tie it to an estimated dollar amount for each one of them. So, same, same revenue, cost of operation and losses. can estimate what’s the cost of.

each one of them in revenue or in dollar amount. By doing that, what’s going to happen is you’re going to have a clear prioritization system, right? And that will give you the ones that you need to tackle on at the very first, because those are going to be the most expensive things. Now, you’re always going to have things that are way too costly to solve, right? So I’m thinking,

you

It’s not only costly to operate in the current way, but it’s also costly to execute a solution for that thing. Right. Now that’s where a lot of creativity comes into play and understand the, okay, now that I understand this is a problem that I’m trying to tackle. Now that’s where you have to do on your research and find your 80 20 into these are the actual drivers.

Of this problem. So I’m going to solve these two or three drivers and that’s going to reduce my cost considerably. Now I can wait until I have something else build, or I can. You know, wait until I hire the next person for that particular thing. So it becomes kind of a framework between what’s my next two action and what is the driver of that action that I need to solve for.

Now you’re kind of talking about metrics here and I’m curious, obviously in business, finance is going to be a strong metric we look at oftentimes in making decisions. Do you have other stories maybe where there was like some different metrics that maybe people may not think of intuitively that helped you clarify those priorities and reshape how the leadership team made decisions?

Absolutely. So let me see. Let me see. One of the examples that comes to mind is precisely, let’s say, in terms of risk assessment, right? Particularly in the lending industry, you know that there is always a risk of getting sued, getting the missing one compliance piece. And what is the trade-off between one or the other, right? Most of the metrics

I think there’s two currents in terms of metrics. let me take a step back. And I think that defining both of these is going to be super important. One current is you have to have metrics for everything. So now your team is focused on a lot of metrics instead of actually executing the drivers for those metrics. And usually what happens is if you define the wrong metrics, you’re going to drive your business to the wrong side of the business. Because you’re focusing too much into

into metrics that won’t actually help your operation. And then there’s the other size, which is no metrics at all. So no metrics and everyone’s just running like headless chickens, right. To figure out a way to execute. So I think balancing both of them, it’s the trick here. and the trick will be, you have to know what the trade-offs are for one or the other. So if we’re thinking again on that risk assessment, right, let’s say, well, if I don’t send my letter to the borrower,

Right on time. Right. That usually means that I’m not going to be able to collect default interest. Right. So if I don’t collect default interest, what does that matter? It doesn’t matter. Well, I guess I’m being more lenient with the borrower. Right. So it’s going to cost me revenue, but on the other side, I’m gaining goodwill with the borrower, particularly if I upfront say, Hey, you should be in default by now, but I’m trying to negotiate with you. let’s work together. So.

putting those two in the violence. And sometimes it’s just a very simple Excel into like a scale potentially, or a matrix, like a two by two matrix where you put your costs, like your cost of not doing it versus your cost of doing it. And then you can balance visual. I’m a very visual guy. So every time I put something on paper and visualize one way or the other, it just helps me, you know, define the pattern and define one of the metrics, one way or the other.

Well, going back to the human aspect and starting to hand off tasks, as leaders scale, protecting the focus becomes more critical. How have you seen delegation from executive and leadership teams work into workflows to help remove decision noise and strengthen follow through and creating space for better thinking?

Absolutely. I think, I think we both have, read a Dan Martell book, you know, buy back your time. And I truly love that book because it provides a good framework for that. And in my experience, the way, the way it works is if you don’t have, you know, a true passion for solving whatever it is that you’re doing, like that’s probably not the right thing you should be doing. Right. Obviously.

your time.

We know that businesses are made on the boring stuff, right? Being very consistent on the boring stuff. So in the past, let me talk about specifically when we’re in the lending business before we’re doing SaaS, right? So one of the most boring things we could do was reviewing the loans for closing, right? So, know, know, you’re probably a lender as well these days. And usually what that happens is

There is a process where you collect all the documents, you read through the documents, you make any corrections or request any corrections, and then you move forward. The problem is that is a circular reference, right? So you go back, you do these over again, and then something change and you have to do it all over again, and then something else changes, and then you have to do it all over again. And at the same time, you’re maintaining your information or your source of truth somewhere else, right?

Either it’s an Excel or you have a system and you’re trying to keep everything pieced together. So it makes sense. First thing is that is a lot of cognitive load every single time, particularly if you have to think about those single steps every single time. Right. So what we did very pragmatic approach was let’s do a checklist. Right. So this is the checklist for this document. This is for the checklist for this step. Right. And then if you have to review one document again,

You just have to review your checklist once again. And that usually provides some clarity into let’s not think what we have to review every single time, but just execute the actions that we’ve thought in the past of what are the things that you have to review. So that’s a good way of looking at the processes in terms of let’s put what we do today. So we don’t have to solve the same problem every single time or decide on every single time. Cause that

just becomes very draining if you have to solve the same problem more than once. So once you’ve done that, then it’s a matter of just execution of the same problems. Once you’ve done that at least once, you know whether that’s something you love doing, or it’s something that you have to hire someone for. That’s just my approach and I’ve seen it work pretty well in the past.

Yeah.

It makes a ton of sense. And I can totally relate to like having the checklist. There’s been many times in our businesses, have the staffing business. We also have our lending business. if a procedure might be in place, but there’s still some things getting missed periodically, we implement the checklist. it’s, know, using technology is great because you can have that like visual kind of indicator of like how much, how many of the checklist items were done. And it like changes color when you do that. And we found that just taking that checklist kind of extrapolating from the SOP,

and putting it in the task management portal really eliminates those issues. And it’s amazing. So I’m glad you brought that checklist up.

Totally. I think just to add on top of that, one thing that I would like to add is you got to be consistent into adding the things into the checklist, but also removing things from the checklist.

Yeah, you got it. So talking about people again, what I guess I’d like to hear from you, if you have any tips on like onboarding practices to help quickly shift the new team members from just doing task execution to having true ownership in the operation environment.

Absolutely. some, sometimes people, people like the direction, right? So whenever you’re on boarding, even, even like, I remember back in the day, when I was starting my career, every time I jumped into a problem without any clear direction, just felt very frustrating. Right. Cause you just have to, you’re both understanding how the company works. You’re understanding how the problem works, right. Or what your role is. And then at the same time, you’re trying to execute something that makes no sense. So.

I think context is the most important piece. So particularly for us, and coming from very regulated and complex industries, usually providing that context upfront, it’s the best approach and that, and that even starts from the interview process. I really like to have deep, detailed interview process where people get a lot of the context. And that is because I feel that.

for someone to make the decision to come on board with you, they have to be aware of what are the problems that they’re going to be solving or what are the tasks that they have to be executing. So I think it starts even there. You have to provide whatever is your process, but as much as context as you can. And I can explain more about what the process is that we follow, but ultimately comes from that initial context. And then it comes from what do you need to know to be able to execute your task, right?

starts from globally, what is the company doing? What is the purpose of the company? And this is where the vision and mission and some of the values come into play, right? But also sometimes if you have the opportunity to onboard these people through all the aspects of the execution, that just opens the mind, right? Because number one, it creates connections outside of the, let’s say bubble of the group or the team that they’re working with. And

It also provides a good understanding of why the other team is doing what they’re doing. Right. So it builds those connections upfront. And from there, this is where you started working on, you know, more of the execution and teaching them what the execution is. After a certain point, then you just have to let them go. And that means instead of where every time they come up with, you know, a problem for you to solve, my approach has always been, okay, what’s your proposal?

Yes.

Like you’re, bringing me this problem. That’s fair. I can solve it. No problem. And we all know like as owners or as founders or the founding team execute executive team, can solve those problems, but to really be able to help your team grow is okay. You have to bring me a couple of solutions. Like what it is that you think it’s the best approach. You have the most amount of information. You should be able to articulate what the problem is and what a proposed solution is.

Sometimes those proposed solutions might not be aligned to the strategy, might not be the best approach based on what you know. Right. But you can compliment that and you can say, look, I appreciate your approach. think that’s great, but ultimately you’re missing all these two or three pieces that are just going to compliment. Here’s my other proposal. What do you think or how do you feel about that? Sometimes there’s a back and forth and you go into even a totally different direction based on that additional information, but that.

just provides more ownership and that communication style that you can rely on people to solve their problems. And also every time they get the solution that they propose, it just empowers them every single time.

That’s a great point. That’s something we also train our executive assistants to do is anytime they have a question or concern, we encourage that. Like you said, when you’re going to bring that question or concern, always come with at least one proposed solution. It doesn’t have to be the final answer, but it’s also easier from the leadership team’s perspective.

Rather than having like that mental burden of like solving everything from scratch, it’s a lot easier to just say like, yes, that’s good. Or no, here’s some modifications and having to start from scratch and just like solve it. don’t know that if they’ve thought about it at all. So I’m really glad you brought that up.

Awesome. Yeah, absolutely. I also think that it’s very empowering. If I were to give advice to myself, when I was starting my career, that will probably be my number one advice. Make sure you bring a solution every time you bring a problem. Cause sometimes you don’t even need someone else to take, you know, to, give you guidance. You’re just advising. This is what I will do. Let me know if you’re okay with it.

Sometimes it’s just that and leaders will say, yeah, go for it, run with it. Let’s see what happens.

Exactly. As we wrap up here, for those leaders that are listening and maybe feel busy and reactive and stretch too thin, what’s one immediate action or advice you’d have for them to take this week to create space and start solving the right problems?

Awesome. I would say number one is get some space. Get some space by doing two things. Number one is when you’re taking as much problems as you can, write them on a piece of paper, and then take a walk. That would immediately free up some of your mental overload.

and guide you into what are the things that you should be solving and what are the things that you can delegate to someone else. That’ll be my step number one. Step number two will be prioritization, but that’s probably more than a week.

Awesome, great advice. Now as we wrap up, where can people best connect with you and start exploring more of your work and learn about what you’re doing at Baseline?

Awesome. Thank you so much. best, the best way to approach me will be LinkedIn. Um, my LinkedIn, you can find me under and particularly will be linked in slash. let me find it here.

So there’ll be linkedin slash in slash V. Santinelli with a double L.

Perfect, and we’ll make sure to have that link in the show notes and podcast notes on all the platforms when this gets published. To those that were listening today, if you got value, hit the follow and subscribe button or tap that star and like button. Every rating helps us equip more business leaders who want to grow the smart way. Thanks again for tuning into the Scale Smart, Grow Fast podcast. Here’s to building businesses that give you more freedom, stronger teams, and lasting growth. Until next time, keep scaling smart. Thank you.

Thank you so much.

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Why Scaling Feels Heavier Before It Gets Easier — And How to Fix It

For many founders and executives in $3M–$50M professional service firms, growth doesn’t create freedom. It creates weight.

The calendar gets tighter. The inbox gets deeper. Follow-ups slip. Projects stall. Every meaningful decision still routes through you.

If that sounds familiar, you’re not underperforming. You’re operating as the execution hub.

In a recent Scale Smart, Grow Fast episode, Nathan Barkocy shared how nearly losing his life reshaped his philosophy around time, leverage, and leadership — and how that mindset directly impacts business scalability.

This isn’t about motivation. It’s about structure.

The Real Bottleneck in Growing Firms

Nathan’s story begins with a near-fatal accident that forced him to rebuild from scratch. That experience sharpened one belief: time is finite, and how leaders use it determines everything.

Fast forward to running multiple real estate ventures, a restoration company in Dallas-Fort Worth, a personal brand, developments, and a growing family. Success was present. Leverage was not.

The common pattern many founders miss:

• You are the follow-up hub
• You are the decision filter
• You are the escalation point
• You are the final approval on everything

When growth increases complexity without changing structure, scaling friction increases.

This is where most delegation efforts break down.

Delegation Fails Without Structure

Many experienced operators have support. What they don’t have is structured leverage.

Nathan initially tried to delegate broadly. The result was misalignment. Too much handed off without clarity on:

• What only he should own
• What required proactive follow-through
• What needed systems, not just assistance

True leverage required defining where his time created the highest return:

• Investor conversations
• Strategic partnerships
• Business development
• Vision and brand positioning

Tasks like content editing, posting, coordination, and administrative execution were transferred to structured support. Not casually. Not reactively. Intentionally.

The shift was not about doing less. It was about increasing the quality of leadership time.

Scaling a Service Business Without Becoming the Bottleneck

Nathan’s real estate restoration company in DFW provides a strong example.

Initially operating with a small team, growth was inconsistent. Revenue was present, but scalability was limited. Marketing experiments failed. Ad spend was inefficient. Execution depended heavily on leadership attention.

The turning point came when systems were built around:

• Clear workflows
• Defined ownership
• Follow-up discipline
• Operational delegation

Instead of competing with larger firms on ad spend, the company focused on organic growth and controlled operational expansion. Systems created predictability.

This is the difference between being busy and building scale.

The Time Audit Most Leaders Avoid

One of Nathan’s most practical recommendations is simple: track your time.

For one week, log every hour.

Then ask:

• Is this where I create the highest leverage?
• Am I doing $20/hour work inside a $500/hour seat?
• Am I operating as a strategist or a task manager?

Executives often don’t realize how much cognitive load is consumed by low-leverage execution until they measure it.

Scaling starts with awareness.

Legacy Thinking Forces Structural Decisions

Nathan’s broader philosophy centers around “True Wealth” — legacy beyond revenue.

Legacy in business does not happen without systems.

Without structure:

• Execution lives in the founder
• Decisions bottleneck
• Growth plateaus
• Multi-year scalability becomes fragile

With structure:

• Teams execute without rescue
• Leadership time protects strategy
• Growth becomes repeatable

This is how operators move from solopreneur intensity to scalable enterprise.

What This Means for Founders and Operators

If your firm is growing but feels heavier instead of lighter, the issue is not effort. It’s architecture.

Ask yourself:

• Are you still the execution hub?
• Does every meaningful follow-up pass through you?
• Do you have support, or do you have leverage?

Scaling without structured delegation increases stress. Scaling with leverage increases capacity.

The difference is not headcount. It is clarity around what only you should be doing.

Final Takeaway

Nathan Barkocy’s journey reinforces a simple truth: leadership bandwidth is the constraint in most growing firms.

Protecting it requires:

• Intentional delegation
• Defined systems
• Clear ownership
• Strategic use of support

Growth should expand opportunity, not compress your time.

If it feels heavier, that’s the signal to rebuild the structure — not work harder.

Watch this before you hire your next support role.

Book a discovery call to see how the right executive support helps you scale with clarity, alignment, and control—without burnout or chaos.  Click here to subscribe.

Full Episode Transcript

Below is the complete transcript of the Scale Smart, Grow Fast episode featuring Nathan Barkocy.

Hey everybody, welcome back to the Scale Smart Grow Fast podcast. Today we’ve got a special guest, Nathan Barcosi, and he didn’t build his business by chasing more. He built them by getting clearer on what only he should be doing. After rebuilding his life from a near fatal accident, Nathan went on to scale real estate and entrepreneurial ventures around his true wealth philosophy. In this episode, he’s gonna share what changed when he stopped being the execution hub and created real operational support.

and reclaim the focus needed to scale income, purpose, and legacy without burning out. Nathan, welcome to the podcast. How are you doing today?

Harley, thank you for having me. It’s an honor to be with you today.

Nathan, I’d love for you to share with our audience a little bit more about your background, especially that like near fatal accident that was mentioned in the intro.

Yeah, absolutely. this brings us back 10 years ago where the story really begins. I was a nationally ranked competitive cyclist. I was state champion in New Mexico, youngest to ever win the Tour of the Gila, setting records, going on the way to the Olympics, to the Tour de France, and becoming an internationally renowned competitive cyclist. That was my vision, my goal. And then in January of 2016, I was hit by a car.

at 60 miles an hour.

goodness.

So I died on the scene and the ambulance rushed me to the ICU. My parents got the call, right? My parents got the call that I was dead and that the officer had reported it as a fatality. so, I mean, God bless my parents, right? They were driving to the hospital thinking I was dead. So I was in a coma for two weeks and by God’s grace, you know, I opened my eyes for the first time two weeks later.

paralyzed. So I couldn’t move and then I went on a medical flight up to Craig Hospital in Colorado, which is where they do traumatic brain injury rehab and spinal cord injury rehab. And that is where they rolled me into the hospital on a wheelchair. I don’t remember being admitted to the hospital there, but my first memories start coming back during my recovery at that time.

And that’s where I learned how to live again. We learned how to walk again and function again. So that’s where life really started for me. And from that time, I was really passionate about bringing my message to the world about how important our time is. I thought, as a teenage boy especially, I thought that I was going to live forever. And then within an instant, within an instant,

All of that can be stripped away from you so fast. And so that’s why I really started to have a mental shift about the importance of our time, right? Because tomorrow is never promised. So I wanted to write a book. Since that day, I wanted to write a book about the importance of our time and what truly holds value in our life. Well, since that recovery, obviously I went to college and I was able to graduate high school with my class, which is great, you know, and I went through all of this

the different phases and that same passion was still driving me to create my own time, right? To create time freedom and to live today as if it’s our last day. Obviously we need to plan for the future, right? But tomorrow is never promised, right? So we needed to take action today in order to make our dreams come true, which is a very entrepreneurial mindset, right? Which is how we get into the business side of things. You know, I couldn’t trade my time as an employee.

for other people. I’ve done that many times and I was actually working with Josh McCallin up in New Jersey. He’s the owner of Accountable Equity and he fired me from when I was working with him because he told me I needed to go start my own business, right? And so that’s where we get to today, right? Which is where I’m sure you and I will dive into where we are now, how I’ve been able to scale, how I’ve utilized Workergenics to help me do so. And so I’m very honored to be with you today and to be bringing this message to your audience.

Awesome. That’s a great background, Nathan. I really appreciate you sharing that. Now, before we jump into the specifics of the business, maybe kind of stepping back a little bit, a little more meta discussion. Before you really started creating the real leverage in your businesses, what would a typical week look like for you and where were you still the bottleneck without maybe even realizing it?

Yeah, the question is, am I still the bottleneck? There’s a lot of things that I’ve realized through working with you guys at Workergenics, and also during the scaling process of my business, because there’s a difference between a solopreneur and a successful entrepreneur who is in a true capitalist, who is able to create work for others, to create opportunities for others.

and leveraging their expertise, right? In their certain fields, you’re able to scale so much faster and more effectively than having to do it all on your own. So if there was a time where I needed to realize this, was about, yeah, I mean, about a year ago when we started. And it was when I realized that I didn’t have time to do everything in order to have my businesses scale to the capacity that I needed them to. And so that’s when I really started to

put together the formulas of how to build a system. And that system is what’s going to allow you to scale. You know this too, Harley, right? That’s the only way to build your business effectively and efficiently is by creating those systems that are in place that others are able to execute and making it so easy for them to execute this, right? Not a lot of questions, just a lot of action to get it done, you know?

Absolutely, systems and people, excellent leverage there. So let’s talk more about what are your businesses that you’re focusing on now, and how did you create those systems in these businesses? I think a lot of people feel like their business is super unique and making systems to get them out of being the bottleneck is just impossible. So we’d love to hear your story with what you’re doing now and how you created some of those systems.

Yeah, it’s a great question. In reality, just point blank honesty, my systems and my businesses were spreading me thin, right? So I was pursuing multiple real estate investments at the same time. I was pursuing multiple brands. I was writing my book. I was building my personal brand. All of this stuff scaling. I’m also a father of two little boys and a husband of a beautiful bride.

I was running my family, running the businesses, running multiple developments, running investments, all of these different things at the same time. And that’s how I’ve been able to scale more effectively by bringing more people onto the team.

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