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(Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:21:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: xorg: Move from asciidoc to asciidoc-base as dependency
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 12:17:05 -0800
Package: Xorg
Severity: wishlist
Dear Maintainer,
Asciidoc has been split in different packages in #637006 and #729242.
This split has arrived in Testing.
To lower the number of dependencies to install during the build, could
you evaluate the switch of the build-depends from asciidoc to
asciidoc-base instead of asciidoc please?
asciidoc-base is enough to build manpages and html pages.
In addition to that, the xmlto package has been added to the
recommends of the asciidoc-base package in #692274, so it might not be
mandatory to have it in the buid-depends anymore.
Thanks for your help,
Joseph
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(Fri, 06 Jan 2017 09:57:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Re: Bug#850301: xorg: Move from asciidoc to asciidoc-base as
dependency
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 10:53:52 +0100
reassign -1 asciidoc 8.6.9-4
severity -1 important
retitle -1 asciidoc: shouldn't pull in latex
On 01/05/2017 09:17 PM, Joseph Herlant wrote:
> Package: Xorg
> Severity: wishlist
>
> Dear Maintainer,
>
> Asciidoc has been split in different packages in #637006 and #729242.
> This split has arrived in Testing.
>
> To lower the number of dependencies to install during the build, could
> you evaluate the switch of the build-depends from asciidoc to
> asciidoc-base instead of asciidoc please?
>
> asciidoc-base is enough to build manpages and html pages.
>
> In addition to that, the xmlto package has been added to the
> recommends of the asciidoc-base package in #692274, so it might not be
> mandatory to have it in the buid-depends anymore.
>
Please revert the change in asciidoc instead. It's unreasonable IMO to
ask users (and I'm also talking about actual users, not just packages
building man pages) to install latex stuff which most of them probably
won't need. If asciidoc merely Recommended the dblatex stuff, as (as
far as I can tell) it used to, this would mostly go away.
Also, whether something is in Recommends or not is irrelevant for
build-depends, since Recommends are ignored for package builds.
Cheers,
Julien
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(Fri, 06 Jan 2017 23:24:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Re: Bug#850301: xorg: Move from asciidoc to asciidoc-base as dependency
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 15:21:10 -0800
Hi Julien,
I understand your frustration
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:53 AM, Julien Cristau <[email protected]> wrote:
> Please revert the change in asciidoc instead. It's unreasonable IMO to
> ask users (and I'm also talking about actual users, not just packages
> building man pages) to install latex stuff which most of them probably
> won't need. If asciidoc merely Recommended the dblatex stuff, as (as
> far as I can tell) it used to, this would mostly go away.
dblatex was in the "Recommends" of asciidoc. By default the Recommends
packages are installed, so the actual users had that installation by
default before. That's the reason why asciidoc is now a dependency of
asciidoc-dbaltex.
What could be done would be to have asciidoc pulling asciidoc-base
instead of asciidoc-dbaltex. But that would impact the users relying
on the fact that dblatex was installed along with asciidoc before
(yes, there are users relying on that).
This split has been ask for several years now to be able to have a
package that don't have dblatex in the recommends.
> Also, whether something is in Recommends or not is irrelevant for
> build-depends, since Recommends are ignored for package builds.
Yes, I realized that after sending a few mails. Sorry for that confusion.
Joseph
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(Mon, 09 Jan 2017 05:33:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Re: Bug#850301: xorg: Move from asciidoc to asciidoc-base as dependency
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 21:31:28 -0800
Control: reassign -1 asciidoc 8.6.9-4
Control: retitle -1 asciidoc: shouldn't pull in latex
Control: tags -1 + fixed
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Joseph Herlant <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:53 AM, Julien Cristau <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Please revert the change in asciidoc instead. It's unreasonable IMO to
>> ask users (and I'm also talking about actual users, not just packages
>> building man pages) to install latex stuff which most of them probably
>> won't need. If asciidoc merely Recommended the dblatex stuff, as (as
>> far as I can tell) it used to, this would mostly go away.
>
> dblatex was in the "Recommends" of asciidoc. By default the Recommends
> packages are installed, so the actual users had that installation by
> default before. That's the reason why asciidoc is now a dependency of
> asciidoc-dbaltex.
>
> What could be done would be to have asciidoc pulling asciidoc-base
> instead of asciidoc-dbaltex. But that would impact the users relying
> on the fact that dblatex was installed along with asciidoc before
> (yes, there are users relying on that).
Thanks to Raphael's suggestion I moved the asciidoc-dblatex to the
Recommends section of asciidoc and make asciidoc depend on
asciidoc-base.
This way we have a behavior that mimics the old behavior and keeps the
split in place.
I'll check with Raphael if he can sponsor this upload.
Thanks for the report,
Joseph
Changed Bug title to 'asciidoc: shouldn't pull in latex' from 'xorg: Move from asciidoc to asciidoc-base as dependency'.
Request was from Joseph Herlant <[email protected]>
to [email protected].
(Mon, 09 Jan 2017 05:33:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Source: asciidoc
Source-Version: 8.6.9-5
We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
asciidoc, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.
A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.
Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you
have further comments please address them to [email protected],
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.
Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Joseph Herlant <[email protected]> (supplier of updated asciidoc package)
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Architecture: source
Version: 8.6.9-5
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Fredrik Steen <[email protected]>
Changed-By: Joseph Herlant <[email protected]>
Description:
asciidoc - Highly configurable text format for writing documentation
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asciidoc-fop - Asciidoc package including fop dependencies
asciidoc-tests - Test framework for asciidoc
vim-asciidoc - Vim syntax highlighting files for asciidoc
Closes: 850301
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.
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(Mon, 09 Jan 2017 18:57:14 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Re: Bug#850301: xorg: Move from asciidoc to asciidoc-base as
dependency
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 19:55:45 +0100
On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 21:31:28 -0800, Joseph Herlant wrote:
> Thanks to Raphael's suggestion I moved the asciidoc-dblatex to the
> Recommends section of asciidoc and make asciidoc depend on
> asciidoc-base.
> This way we have a behavior that mimics the old behavior and keeps the
> split in place.
>
Thanks Joseph, that is much appreciated!
Cheers,
Julien
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