Cindy Sheehan was on the phone with Fox's Dayside today:
Juliet Huddy: The official death toll for United States Military folk in Iraq has reached one thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine.
Mike Jerrick: War protester Cindy Sheehan says she will tie herself to the White House fence, right there in front when the number reaches 2000, and she joins us on the phone from the front of the White House. Cindy, were you able to listen to the speech today?
Cindy Sheehan: No, actually I wasn't.
Mike Jerrick: Well let me play just one quick bite from it then. It's about how the President says, now that we've gotten rid of Saddam Hussien, if we leave now we'll probably just turn Iraq over to terrorists, basically is what he said. Here's specifically what he said:
{videoclip}
President Bush: Some observers also claim that America would be better off by cutting our losses and leaving Iraq now. This is a dangerous illusion refuted by a simple question. Would the United States and other free nations be more safe or less safe with Zarqawi and bin Ladin in control of Iraq, its people, and its resources?
{end videoclip}
Mike Jerrick: So, what do you think? As you can tell there, the President says that we can not leave now, the terrorists will take over. Cindy, what's your response to that?
Cindy Sheehan: Well, um, I believe that, you know of course I believe that that's false. I, there are studies that show that most of the violence in Iraq are home grown insurgencies that are fighting against the occupation. And I believe that if we don't need our military presence there, we never did need our military presence there, Saddam was not responsible for 9/11. Osama is still free. It seems like they've forgotten that he was the one that planned attack on American soil and he's still running free. They, they're, um, devastating a country that was no threat to the United States of America. And I believe that our military presence is not needed there like it was never needed there.
Juliet Huddy: Cindy, and it's comments like those that have made you, like it or not, a lightning rod for Americans. Here, we've got somebody in the audience who wants to ask you a question. Go ahead sir.
Audience member: My question to you is, I was drafted into the Army and I served, I didn't want to go, but I went and I ended up fighting in combat in Korea. Your son volunteered. All of us thank God he did. I think what you're doing is denigrating your son's service.
{Applause}
Juliet Huddy: Cindy, I know you've addressed this before, but you know, today you're once again going to be out there and you've said you're going to chain yourself to the White House fence. What do you think your son would have thought about this? I know members of your family have come out in opposition of what you're doing.
Cindy Sheehan: Actually, um, my son did volunteer to join, uh, the United States Army. My son was an honorable man. He was a brave man. And he was misused and abused by his commander in chief by attacking a country that was no threat to the United States of America. And he, and all of us, would gladly defend our country, but Iraq was nothing about defending our country.
Mike Jerrick: So Cindy, real quickly. Your plans, when you say the death toll, when it gets to 2000 in Iraq, which, you know, sadly will probably be within the next week. You're going to chain yourself...
Cindy Sheehan: It will probably be sometime today, sadly, tragically, and unnecessarily.
Mike Jerrick: And your plan is to tie yourself to the fence there in front of the White House?
Cindy Sheehan: Actually we've changed our plans a little bit. We're going to be, um, every, every night at 6:00 as many Americans who are working for peace and oppose this war as possible we are gonna ask them to lie down in a symbolic death. And we get, we get warnings, we get three warnings before we're arrested. So, um, you know people can get up during the warnings and not be arrested. But, the day after the 2000th death, I'm gonna lie down and not get up.
Mike Jerrick: OK, ah, Cindy, if you don't mind hanging on the phone there real quickly we're going to bring in Bill Kristol the editor of the Weekly Standard. Bill, thank you very much. Just respond to Cindy's comments and the President as well.
Bill Kristol: Well, I happen to agree with the President that it's a free country and Mrs. Sheehan's obviously entitled to demonstrate. I don't think she's entitled to claim to be speaking on behalf of the 2000 young men and women who have, did volunteer, and have died in Irag though.
{applause}
Juliet Huddy: In this, in this speech today Bill, did we hear anything new? I was listening with some people in the green room and there were comments both for and against. Saying, "It's the same old rhetoric." There was some encouraging, there were some encouraging words from his supporters. What do you have to say? Anything new, did you hear? Any new territory covered?
Bill Kristol: Nothing fundamentally new. I mean, I think with the constitution passed, that was announced in this morning in Iraq and that's important. And the political process is moving ahead. There's been some military progress in the last, uh, couple of months I think. But, look, it's the same war, there's nothing, there's no new insight, just a matter of staying the course and winning, I think.
Mike Jerrick: We still have some questions. In the control room, is Cindy still with us? So questions for either Bill or Cindy. Go ahead.
Juliet Huddy: Go ahead ma'am.
Audience member: I guess I would just like to say that as far as tying yourself to the fence, and laying down and staying there she is perfectly welcome to do that.
Juliet Huddy: That's the great thing about America. Go ahead.
Audience member: She's getting a chance to do what she's doing because we have freedom in this country. Her son fought and died for that freedom. She wants to deny it to people in Iraq. And she wants to overlook the freedom that we enjoy every day here in America.
{applause}
Juliet Huddy: Cindy, do you want to react to that? She is gone, I'm sorry. Sorry about that.
So, Cindy's changing her plan. She's going to lie down and not get up. Is that a promise? Where will you lie down? Do you have a good supply of Depends Undergarments? Or a good bedpan? Don't you know it's dangerous to eat or drink while lying down?
I thought all three audience members' comments were good, especially the first and last ones. Too bad Cindy didn't hear the last two.
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