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Contra Michael Shermer, facts and reason cannot determine values and morals

Slavery shows us “an example of how facts and reason can determine values and morals”, declares Michael Shermer. That’s starkly put, a direct challenge to Hume’s is/ought distinction between objective facts about the world and “oughts” that derive from values that we humans hold. I reject moral realism (the idea that moral injunctions have objective standing, independently of what humans think about them) and so reject Shermer’s claim.

I am not rejecting the idea that humans have an evolved nature, and that our feelings and values are very real and of the utmost importance to us. Nor am I attempting to dispense with morality, quite the converse. But moral injunctions must ultimately derive from us, from our values — our I like, I dislike, I laud or I abhor feelings — and cannot be derived from objective facts about the world.

Shermer argues for the latter, but I don’t think he succeeds. He argues by repeatedly translating one moral injunction into another moral injunction, giving the impression that eventually he has arrived at bed rock in a brute fact, when he has not. Slavery is an emotive example, so for clarity the discussion below is not about whether to reject slavery, it is about whether that rejection derives from our values, our repugnance and sympathy for other humans, or from facts that hold independently of our values.

“Slavery is morally wrong because it’s a clear-cut case of decreasing the survival and flourishing of sentient beings”, declares Shermer. But, as he then correctly asks: “Why is that wrong?”.

He answers: “It is wrong because it violates the natural law of personal autonomy and our evolved nature to survive and flourish; it prevents sentient beings from living to their full potential as they choose, and it does so in a manner that requires brute force or the threat thereof, which itself causes incalculable amounts of unnecessary suffering.”

That all seems very true. But (as he again asks): “How do we know that’s wrong?” He answers: “Because of what Steven Pinker calls the “interchangeability of perspectives,” which we might elevate to a principle of interchangeable perspectives: I would not want to be a slave, therefore I should not be a slave master.”

But that does not follow, at least not without additional premises. “Should” injunctions are instrumental, that is they pertain to desired goals. You only “should” do something if that gets you some goal you wish for. And it may well follow that: “I don’t want to be a slave; and there is least likelihood of me being a slave if society bans slavery entirely; and therefore it is in my interests to uphold that rejection and relinquish being a slave owner”. But that calculation is different from the above principle.

Let’s consider a thought experiment in which Daniel possesses a superpower such that he can enslave others, but with zero possibility of him being enslaved. If morality were objective and “slavery is wrong” were an objective fact then it would have to bind Daniel, and yet the logic leading up to “… therefore I should not be a slave master” doesn’t hold for him.

The injunction: “you would not want to be a slave, therefore you should not own slaves” might well work fine as an appeal to human sympathy, being a grounding of anti-slavery in human values, but it does not work as an attempt at objective logic.

Shermer then correctly brings in game theory, referring to: “… the evolutionary stable strategy of reciprocal altruism: “I will scratch your back instead of being your master, if you will scratch my back and not make me a slave.” It is the behavioral game theory strategy of tit-for-tat: “I won’t make you a slave if you don’t become my master.””

This may indeed be tactically astute, and adopting this attitude might be your best strategy, especially if you are in danger of being enslaved. But, again, this is a moral scheme adopted instrumentally based on ones values and self advantage (“I don’t want to be a slave”). That does not give you an objective morality. For that you need an argument for why Daniel, with his superpowers, should not own slaves. Indeed, game theory would say that, if you’re trying to maximise your winnings, and you know that you have the power to do so, then you should (instrumentally) exploit others by enslaving them.

Shermer continues: “The principle of interchangeable perspectives is also a restatement of John Rawls’ “original position” and “state of ignorance” arguments, which posit that in the original position of a society in which we are all ignorant of the state in which we will be born … we should favor laws that do not privilege any one class because we don’t know which category we will ultimately find ourselves in.”

Again, this is about tactics that would be in your interests if you indeed were in that “state of ignorance”. But, by the time we’re old enough to reason morally we’re not in that state. And, anyhow, are we really saying that the reason plantation owners in the American South should (morally) have freed their slaves was out of fear that they might one day be enslaved? Even if there were zero likelihood of that (as was pretty much the case), wouldn’t you still want them to abjure slavery? Is fear of being enslaved really your argument for why you consider slavery to be objectively wrong? This does not sound like moral realism (objective moral truths that hold always for everyone, even Daniel), it sounds like politics — the negotiations we make with each other to get along and to attempt to steer society to our liking. And that is indeed what it is!

Perhaps Shermer realises the problem since he then says: “Lincoln’s ultimate moral avowal was simple: “If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong”.”. This captures that rejection of slavery is, ultimately, a rejection rooted in human sympathy and human values. That’s all there is. It is indeed the case that “nothing is wrong” in the sense of objective moral injunctions that can be derived from facts and that are independent of human values, because that entire conception is misguided and untenable.

Shermer has produced an insightful descriptive account of human psychology. Game theory does indeed underpin how attitudes evolve in a species where social interactions are all important. Rawls’s “veil of ignorance” does indeed capture aspects of how humans think. It is entirely true that this sort of moral reasoning is in line with our evolved nature. But this still grounds morality in human values. The prescription still comes from us, from our evaluation of the sort of society we want to live in.

Nothing in Shermer’s reasoning makes the leap to moral prescriptions that hold independently of what humans think about them, and are thus objective. It is not true that “facts and reason can determine values and morals”; instead, values and morals derive from our evolved human nature. And yes, you can then rationally explain why we evolved to be like that; there is nothing here outside the realm of science, in that there is nothing here that science cannot explain.

Our human nature is not arbitrary, it is fully explained by our evolution as a social species. But Hume’s distinction holds. Moral values are not determined by “facts and reason”, they are instead part of our nature, part of us. That makes them subjective. To many, that label “subjective” seems akin to saying they are second rate or unimportant. But that’s utterly erroneous, in the end our subjective qualia are the only things that are important to us.

Why do morals need to be justified?

To many people the question in the title will seem peculiar. Of course morals need to be justified! Otherwise, who is to say that the morality of Martin Luther King is any better than that of Pol Pot?

The answer to that, by the way, is “people”. There isn’t anyone else. I return to this theme after catching up with the blog of Michael Nugent, who is currently doing a sterling job leading Atheist Ireland to notable successes.

In a series of posts, Michael responds to a challenge laid down by David Quinn, a Catholic, of the Iona Institute:

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That’s all very well, but it doesn’t explain why we are morally obliged to treat other human beings with love, dignity and respect. We might do it because we want to, because we feel like it, because it might serve a useful purpose. But why are we morally obliged to do so? Where does the obligation come from? Certainly not from nature.

David Quinn is right! Continue reading

Moral realism versus hypothetical imperatives

Moral realism is the doctrine that there are “moral facts”. Moral facts are declarations of what is or is not moral (“Stealing is morally wrong”) or what we ought or ought not do (“We ought to abolish the death penalty”). In order to be “facts”, these statement have to describe objective features of the world, and so be independent of subjective human opinion on the matter. In order to be “moral” facts (as opposed to other sorts of facts), they need to declare what, morally, we ought to do or not do.

I’m an anti-realist. As I see it, the only form of “oughtness” that actually exists, is instrumental oughtness. That is, statements of the form “If you want to attain Y, you ought to do X”. Such statements, termed hypothetical imperatives by Kant, can be objectively true descriptions of how things are. The statement “If you want to attain Y, then you ought to do X” can be re-phrased as “Doing X will attain Y”, which can indeed be a true fact about the world. Continue reading

On Michael Shermer’s defence of moral realism

“Is there anyone (other than slave holders and Nazis) who would argue that slavery and the Holocaust are not really wrong, absolutely wrong, objectively wrong, naturally wrong?”

Yes, I would (and I don’t think I’m either a slave holder or a Nazi). That quote ends Michael Shermer’s recent defence of moral realism on his Skeptic blog.

My disagreement with Shermer comes down to what we even mean by morality being “objective” rather than “subjective”. Indeed this particular disagreement can account for a lot of people talking past each other. Shermer explains: Continue reading

Alex Rosenberg’s Guide to Reality and morality under scientism

Alex Rosenberg’s An Atheist’s Guide to Reality is the most radically scientistic book that I’ve read. I should thus like it a lot! And generally I do, but with some reservations.

I’ll address here one argument that Rosenberg makes about morality and politics which I think is faulty, and, indeed, not “scientistic” enough. I’ve seen other atheists make the same argument so it is worth exploring. Continue reading

On Stephen Law on Scientism

scientism It’s good to see philosophers taking scientism seriously, and not just using the term as a bogey word. Massimo Pigliucci and Maarten Boudry are editing a forthcoming volume on scientism (Total Science, University of Chicago Press) and some of the essays are appearing on the internet.

I’ll discuss here the draft chapter by Stephen Law (Heythrop College, University of London) who writes, discussing the proper scope of science: Continue reading

Hume’s subjective morality: Making value judgements about value judgements

One theme of this blog has been my arguments — as a disciple of Hume — that morality is subjective, thus rejecting that idea that moral claims can be assigned truth values and that they are independent of human judgement on the matter. (For example, see my posts: Six reasons why objective morality is nonsense and Science can answer morality questions.)

This idea, though, often meets strong intuitive resistance. A common complaint is that, if moral claims are “merely” people’s opinions, then one cannot say that the morals of a virtuous man, living a blameless life and esteemed by his fellows, are any better than those of a delinquent mass murderer.

The suggestion is that, if morals are human sentiments, rather than being objective statements of fact, then we must value everyone’s sentiments and morals equally.

This, however, is a non-sequitur. There is nothing to stop us making value judgements about value judgements. Indeed we commonly do so. There is nothing at all preventing us from respecting and lauding someone we regard as a moral paragon, or from deprecating someone we regard as a delinquent.

Stated like this the point is perhaps obvious, yet many objections to the idea that morality is subjective amount to the idea that one needs permission to make value judgements, permission that can only come from a reference to an objective standard, and that in the absence of such a standard one must regard everyone’s opinion as “equally valid”. Continue reading

There is nothing wrong with morality being subjective!

Whenever I argue that morality is subjective I encounter people who regard that idea as so unpalatable that they are determined that we must find a scheme — somehow, anyhow — in which morality can be regarded as objective. The term “subjective” has such negative connotations. I argue here that such connotations are not justified.

If we ask what morality actually is, the only plausible answer is that morality is about the feelings that humans have about how we act, particularly about how we treat each other. This was proposed by the greatest ever scientist, Charles Darwin, who in Chapter 3 of his Descent of Man stated that that “moral faculties of man have been gradually evolved” and added that “the moral sense is fundamentally identical with the social instincts”.

He explains that in social animals such instincts would take the form that in each individual:

… an inward monitor would tell the animal that it would have been better to have followed the one impulse rather than the other.

The world’s greatest philosopher, David Hume, had earlier arrived at the same conclusion. In his An Enquiry Concerning the Principles of Morals Hume explained that “morality is determined by sentiment”, saying that “in moral deliberations” the “approbation or blame … cannot be the work of the judgement”, but is instead “an active feeling or sentiment”.

Hume continues:

In these sentiments then, not in a discovery of relations of any kind, do all moral determinations consist. . . .

… we must at last acknowledge, that the crime or immorality is no particular fact or relation, which can be the object of the understanding, but arises entirely from the sentiment of disapprobation, which, by the structure of human nature, we unavoidably feel on the apprehension of barbarity or treachery.

No-one has ever suggested any alternative account of morals that makes the slightest sense. The main alternative suggestion is that morality is about the values and feelings of gods, rather than of humans, but we have neither hide nor hair of any gods, whereas we know that humans exist and have evolved.

Given our evolutionary past, in a highly social and cooperative ecological niche, we will inevitably have been programmed with moral feelings, feelings about how we act towards each other. Thus morals are rooted in human values and in what we like and dislike. That makes morals, at root, subjective, since the term “subjective” means “based on or influenced by personal feelings, values and opinions”.

Whether an act is regarded as “morally good” or “morally bad” must, in the end, be a statement about how humans feel about the matter. No viable alternative has ever been proposed. Continue reading

Debate with Anthony Freeland on Objective Morality: Second Post

This post continues my debate with the Christian blogger Anthony Freeland over whether moral values and duties are objective (independent of human opinion) or subjective (being reports of human opinion). See Anthony’s first post, my first reply, and then Anthony’s second post.

Was the Holocaust evil?

Anthony feels that I hadn’t properly answered his question: Was the Holocaust an act of evil? He also complains that “with subjective morality … nothing can be considered evil”.

It’s clear that Anthony and I interpret the word “evil” differently. I had considered that my statement: “most humans regard the Holocaust as among the vilest and most abhorrent crimes ever” answered the question. Yes, subjectively, most people feel the Holocaust to be evil. But Anthony is presumably asking something different. Continue reading

On objective moral values and duties: A reply to Anthony Freeland

The Christian blogger Anthony Freeland has invited me to debate the topic of whether morals are objective or subjective. Anthony has written the first post, arguing that objective moral values and duties do exist.

I’m arguing that morals are subjective, and will structure this post as a reply to Anthony, though elaborating on my wider views at times (for more of which see these three posts). To start with, I’ll concur with Anthony’s definition of the terms. Subjective morals derive from and are dependent on human feelings and opinion on the matter. Objective moral values and duties need to be independent of human opinion (though, as below, more broadly they need to be independent of the feelings of any sentient being). Continue reading