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Found this on FB and I have decided to blog it down so that I can remember it in the future.
"老公，你手机来电话啦！”
男：喂？
女：喂，你……吗？
男：是，你是谁？
女：我是……
男：噢，你啊！找我有事吗？
女：你能出来一下吗？我在你们家外面的。
“去吧？老公我相信你”
女：喝茶吧！
男：什么事快说吧！这么晚了。我不放心我老婆一个人在家，她怕黑。
女：我离婚了！
男：为什么啊！你老公不是很爱你吗？
女：他这个混蛋，他背着我搞了小三，呜呜呜呜
男：好了，别伤心了，你还年轻，还有更好的等着你……
女：你恨我吗？
男：一切都过去了。我现在把你当朋友，没有什么恨不恨。
女：真的？
男：呵呵当然，我有和你说过谎吗？
女：你还爱我吗？
男：……爱
女：我们结婚吧，我一定会做一个贤妻良母。
男：我有妻子了，我和她上个星期刚领的结婚证，再过两个月就结婚了。
女：不是还没结婚吗？
男：不可以，她真的很爱我，我不能伤害她。
女：你不好意思我去说……
男：那也不行。
女：呜呜，为什么？
男：因为我是男人，所以不可以。
女：我想知道是具体为什么 你还爱我，而且我也还爱你，为什么就不能再一起？
男：你真想知道为什么？
女：嗯。
男：1：是一个人 ，我知道爱上一个人不容易更知道被伤后有多痛苦，所以我不能离开她。
2：之所以决定结婚是因为我决定了，这一辈选定她了，选定她就是我这辈子唯一的女人。不管以后说什么话都以不愧于她为标准，做什么事都以不背叛她为原则，不管以后我们遇见的是风还是雨，我都会站在最前面为她挡风挡雨。
3：她很爱我，她很傻，很善良 她不管做什么事都处处为我着想。
我今天来都是经过她的劝说我才来的，她相信我，相信我不会对不起她，她决定嫁给我，就是决定把她的一生给了我。
女人的一生是不允许被践踏的。
明白吗？
女：懂了……
“世界上有两种美，外在美：它能满足你的面子，但不定能给一生的幸福。
内在美：它虽然不能给足你面子但它一定能给你一生幸福，女人——……面子重要……还是幸福重要……”
女：做个朋友可以吗？
男：不要了，我不需要女朋友以外的女性朋友！
女：为什么？说理由
男：第一，没有共同语言，我平时玩的东西你们女孩子也不喜欢玩；第二，你满足不了我女朋友可以给我的需求；等三，我没时间和你逛街吃饭什么的，那是陪女朋友做的事；第四，我女朋友会吃醋。所以何必呢？
男人最骄傲的不是睡过多少女人，而是能有一个女人愿意让他睡一辈子。
女人最骄傲的不是拥有多少男人，而是她的男人愿意为他拒绝多少女人。
男人，要经得起诱惑！！！！！！
女人，要耐得起寂寞！！！！！！
karl mooed at : 7:55 PM
HELLO PEEPS!!! It has been quite some time since I last blogged. Today I shall continue where I left off the previous time, which is to complete my remaining 2 essays which my GF had set for me before the UOL exams. As I am "supposed" to be very free now since my exams had ended and my HK trip/PC Show job is over, I have no reasons to be a PK right? So... Here we go again.....
6. What are the advantages and disadvantages of being with her till date?
Of course, nobody is perfect and due to individuals' unique character and behaviour, there will not be a perfect relationship. Ultimately, it all boils down to acceptance and tolerance of each other's weaknesses and imperfections. Only then will you see an imperfect person perfect. Nevertheless, as people say, "One man's meat is another man's poison". A certain character trait which you favour in an ideal partner might not be favourable to another person. To put it simply, it just meant 'taste'. My taste might be different from the other guys out there but so long as I am happy with my 'food', I wouldn't care how people judge my preference. =)
Advantages
Most importantly, Julia understands that I do not come from such a well to do family as her, and as such, she does not expect me to pay for all our dates by myself. Firstly, as we are both food lover, we will be prepared to pay slightly more for better food, and if I were to pick the tab each time, my allowance would have depleted by the end of the 2nd week of the month and I wouldn't be able to bring her out to eat good food anymore and obviously she doesn't want that to happen. Probably she feels that it is not "ethically" right to make the boyfriend to pay for everything since she can afford it and that she is better off than the boyfriend.
Secondly, she is able to get along fine with my family members. Maybe due to some bad experiences which I had encountered with my ex-GF, I have understood the importance of building strong and good relationship with your partner's family. In future if we were to get married, it will be a combination of 2 families and both of us will be the catalyst in this case. I could not imagine how it will be like if both our families cannot get along well and how much stress it will create for both of us. But I would say I am pretty well liked by Julia's family and I am very thankful for that.
Before Julia came into my life, I would say I am quite a 'happy go lucky' person who didn't liked planning what to do everyday. In another words, I led a very 'boring' life. Julia came and added colours in my life, be it planning activities to do and organising my 'boring timetable' which practically made my life much more interesting than before. I never felt bored ever again. All my free time will be spent on her and she enjoys my company as much I enjoyed hers. Her 1 week holiday to Taiwan without me by her side had made me realized how life would be without her. I felt that I was going back in time where I have not met her and leading my same old 'boring' lifestyle again. I seriously wonder how it would be like when she leaves for US in a few weeks time and it would be for 2 months. Probably I should get a well paying job and save up for that 2 months and get her something really good when she returns. =)
Disadvantages
Frankly speaking, Julia had been a really really really nice girlfriend. Although I know there cannot be a perfect lover, Julia is really very close to being the perfect girl in my eyes. If I were to really pinpoint any flaw I see, the only gripe I have would be that she tends to rush things which have no sense of urgency. i.e. getting things done way beforehand which can be very far from the deadline. I know there is no fault being 'efficient' but it kinda irks me sometimes. Let me explain in detail. Lets say I have a task to complete in a week and I have planned to finish it say a day before the deadline, and so that I can my own sweet time to finish it at my own pace. Suddenly, she will demand me to finish it say in 3 days and wait till the deadline to hand it up. I have always been a person who likes to do things slowly so long I get things done before the deadline as I do not like to rush things through. So when Julia does that, I can get really irritated at times as my plans are being disrupted for things that aren't urgent at all. I know it isn't quite a big matter as now I am trying to adapt to it. My efficiency is now close to Strong-Form Efficiency thanks to my girlfriend. =)
As you all can see, the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. If the reverse is true, probably I wouldn't be with Julia now right? Then again, being in a relationship, we cannot really quantify everything in terms of numbers or figures. It is the feeling that counts and that is of utmost importance.
3. What made you finally decide to confess to Julia? Discuss.
I have always been a curious person and also quite a risk taker. I would wonder how/why things might turn out based on the decisions we make. It is finding the ultimate outcome that would keep my interest going. And applying this to relationship would also mean that without trying, you would not know how things would turn out to be in the end.
After a failed relationship while I was still serving my NS, I have learnt many valuable lessons and I promised myself never to repeat those mistakes again in my future relationship. Thus, it took me quite some time to settle down before I decide to make myself "available" for relationships.
I have indeed met a few potential "candidates" but i approached them with a skeptical attitude for the fear of another failed relationship. I had even came up with a mini "checklist" to remind myself that any girl must pass it in order for me to consider them as a "good" candidate. In the end, Julia was the one whom I had set my eyes on.
I spent a few months thinking hard on whether I should make my move and let her know of my interest in her and adopted a waiting and see strategy instead. During this period, I was constantly asking myself a gazillion questions like "How can I be sure to be the right guy for her?", "How am I gonna give her the happiness she needs?", "How I can be there for her everytime she needs me?" etc. I had to ensure that I can do all of the above before I commit myself to being in a relationship with her. I didn't care if shes going to be a good girlfriend. I didn't even expect her to be a good one. All I knew at the point of time was that I would have given her all that I could and I would have did my best. Even if she were to reject me for whatever reasons, I know I did put in my effort and I could give no more.
There I was, brimming with confidence, I decided to give it a shot. I confessed. I got rejected. If anybody were to ask me if I was disappointed, I would be lying if I said no. Actually I expected myself to be rejected for some reason, my main purpose was actually to let my intention be known. I am kinda glad that I actually did that as Julia did not even sense anything fishy when I was out on dates with her. I guess my effort paid off when we got together about a month later.
Up till today, I would still keep myself in check, by reflecting on those thoughts I had before I decided to commit myself in a relationship. I had to uphold my "standards" throughout the whole duration of this relationship or risk being ended up in another failed one. If we really did not work out in the future for some reasons or another, I know that I did my best and that I would not have any regrets.
Being in a relationship is like an investment. You invest time, money and effort in it but only reaped the payoff in an indefinite time in the future. If the relationship fail, you not only lose all your investment, you will even suffer a "loss" which are all your emotions and the efforts to get back onto your feet again. These "losses" are again cannot be quantified in figures or numbers. Now are you willing to invest in such an investment? I do. Because I am an "informed" trader who does his homework diligently. =)
karl mooed at : 10:35 AM
As you people know, my dearest smart GIRLFRIEND has set for me 8 questions which I have to chose 4 out of the 8 and answer them. Although I do not have to physically study for it, I am sure its gonna kill more brain cells compared to the actual UOL exams which I am supposed to take in like 4 days time. Oh well, since I'm always being such a good sport, I shall entertain her by attempting 4 questions as she requested. Here goes.....
2. What are the good and bad characteristics of Julia that captured your attention?
Very often, people always say love is blind and that couples tend to overlook the bad points of their "Significant Other" when they are in a relationship. For me, my mentality is that I will tend to focus on the bad points of the girl I fancy rather than on the good points. Why is it so? If I can accept her really bad points, I am pretty sure that I will not regret my decision to choose to be with her in the future as I have already accepted her for who she is.
Now I shall describe a few good/bad characteristics of my girlfriend.
1) Her "thrifty-ness"
Personally, I have come across tons of girls who would spend money without much thoughts and would spend every single cent in their bank account. I wouldn't say that my GF doesn't spend any money but rather, she understands the meaning of SAVING money and how not to waste money on things that she really doesn't need. I can guarantee that every single cent that comes out from her pocket will be well spent. And yes, she comes from a well-to-do family, and most people would expect her to be clad in branded goods and stuffs but does she even buy branded goods in the first place? Even though I am sure she can jolly well afford it. Although its still very early to say if this habit of hers would persist in the future, but at least I know that for now, she would not be lugging me to LV or Chanel boutique to do her shopping. Thank God.
2) Her "Ka Kin-ness"
My GF is one of the most "efficient" girls that I have witnessed in the past 25 years of my life. Even a PK(Procrastinating King) like me is influenced by her and have in turn become almost as efficient as her. Every date with her is well planned beforehand and carried out smoothly to maximize both our time. When I was single, I usually do not plan my days in advanced and leave it to the last minute to do whatever I feel like doing. Now that I am attached to a "Ka Kin Queen", my next day are sort of discussed and planned the night before I get to sleep and all I have to do is to carry them out when the sun rises. I would say it was quite an experience for me as it was something I have never felt before. I feel that my life is more "organised" now compared to last time. The only drawback I felt about being too "efficient" is that sometimes we tend to miss out the process of enjoying an activity as we get things done too quickly.
3) Her "impatient-ness"
Almost all her friends know JULIA TAN knows that she is somebody who HATES to wait for people or things. Contrarily, I am somebody who has lots of patience and would not complain a single bit for having to wait. Maybe it was because I was trained in the army to wait for instructions or maybe I have a bunch of friends who would constantly be late and I would have to wait for them. I guessed that it was her reluctance to wait that lead her to becoming such an "efficient" person. The bad thing about this special "characteristic" of hers is that, sometimes, she would be rushing me for certain things and demand an outcome which would be less desirable compared to if I were to do it at my pace and things might turn out better.(Agency cost of impatience) Overall, I would say I have grew accustomed to it and is coping well with it.
In conclusion, the above points are just a few main characteristics of my girlfriend which are quite interesting and are not exhaustive. I am sure all her friends will notice something special about Julia that has captured their attention in their own way.
4. Describe Julia's habits that are unique to her and that you find particularly interesting.
My girlfriend has just too many habits that are that unique and I could list a super duper long list of them. I shall just list 5 of the most interesting ones and you guys will might be shocked by them.
1) "Just Follow Law"
Julia Tan is a very very good citizen who just does not break the law in any way. She doesn't illegal park her car even though all the lots are taken. She insist on tearing carpark coupons only to realise that parking is free, only after looking at the signboard. She does not litter. She observes the speed limit religiously. She rather queue behind a long queue of car than to overtake the next lane which has no cars. Can you imagine if all drivers are like her, all the Fatimahs and Uncle Sam would be out of job because there would not be cars for them to issue summons?
2) She likes to pass things to me through her mouth.
Let me explain. Julia Tan got this weird habit of passing small stuffs through her mouth and into my mouth. First, it was some sweets like Ricola and Clorect. There are times when I was driving and she would kiss me and use her tongue to push the sweets over to me. Sometimes I would least expect anything more than a kiss and "POP", a half eaten cloret would appear in my mouth. Then i will go "WTF!!!", and force it back into her mouth. All these are nothing compared to the time when she actually bit her finger nail and sneakily pass the "fresh-out-of-the-oven" bitten nail into my mouth while forcing a kiss on me. Can you imagine how gross it was? I can never forget the "sly" look on her face and her evil laughter after she did such a disgusting act.
3) Her phobias
My girlfriend has tons of phobias and she seems to be afraid of everything. She's scared to take the lift alone for the fear of being trapped inside alone. She's afraid of heights of more than 3 storeys. But there is one thing which I could not understand, which is the fact that she will not allow friends to lean against the edge of the wall whenever we are at the 4th storey of the SIM building. If she is afraid of heights, she can jolly well stay away from the edges of the wall, but why she will not allow her friends to stand near it if her friends are not afraid of heights? Unless she is afraid that her friends will lose their balance and fall down? If that is really true, then this would have added itself to her list of phobias. HAHA. She is even afraid to open a trading account on her own when she wanted to start trading on the SGX and insist that I accompany her. OMG!!! I think she would be a decent candidate for the guiness book of record for the most number of phobias. =X
4) Her eating habits
Everybody know that eating is Julia Tan's life. She loves good food and that is also her weakest point. Tempt her with good food and you have just earned yourself a date with the princess. Although she loves food, she can be very picky with her food too. But the interesting part her is, that she will still eat certain food that she dislike provided it was prepared in another different way. For example, she will still eat tau gey provided it was cooked with tau gua or stir fried on the teppanyaki table. And also, she can only eat with a round headed chopstick instead of the squared ones. So those kind where you get from ta baoed food and you have to break into 2 before you can use them are definitely out for her. And she always orders the same thing every time we go back to the same restaurant on a return visit. Example, chicken and crayfish combo at Jack's place, fried golden mushroom and XO sauce mee pok and Hua Ting. This led me to think that she has a phobia of changing her choices of food for the fear that other food might not be as nice. So I would say that all her habits surrounds all phobias.
5) Her shopping habits
My girlfriend is self proclaimed shopping queen. I seriously do not understand why anybody would need more than 40 bags and 5284738947694 watches. Do you even use all of them? Or do you wear like 10 watches on your arms everyday? I JUST DON'T GET IT. I understand the point of getting different designs but same designs and of different colour? I gave up understanding. Maybe its something that guys don't get it? Or maybe its just me?
As you all can see, my GF really does have a number of unique habits which is really very interesting and I am fascinated/stunned by them too.
I have been "ordered" by the "examiner" which is my girlfriend, Julia Tan to stop at 2 questions and resume the remaining 2 next week because I have to study for my exams which is like this Friday. Time to put my really "interesting" girlfriend to sleep and she's like waiting for me. I gotta ka kin wrap up this entry before she skins me alive and now you all know how much she HATES to wait for people.
All the best for those taking exams. Study hard and you shall do well. =)
karl mooed at : 12:24 AM
Yesterday, after our buffet dinner at Keppel Club, we went down to Far East because my dear Bao Bei wanted to go get herself a BROWN coloured bag just because she doesn't have one when she has a gazillion other coloured bags. OMG!! I forsee that bag being kept in the cupboard like a diamond in a few weeks time.
Anyway, something damn FUNNY happened while we were on the way back home. We were at a traffic light junction waiting for the lights to turn green and she turned over and asked me, "My bro's car very noisy hor?!?!" At first I was thinking to myself, "How could a new Avante being one of the most popular cars here in Singapore have poor sound insulation given the level of technology today? " The puzzle was finally solved when I turned my head and saw a damn freaking low car right beside the Avante on my left hand side. I inched my head further left and saw the rear tail light belonging to the Lamborghini family. It was a Gallardo driven by an Ang Moh and that totally explained why my ben ben GF would say that the car was noisy. No matter what car you drive, as long as you beside a Lamborghini, no amount of noise insulation is going to help reduce the decibels coming from the engine of a "raging bull". After the lights turned green, as I was making my U-turn, the Lamborghini driver floored the accelerator and even though I was driving away from him, I could still hear the "roars" crystal clear as though I was standing right beside it. My GF was deemed as NOOB for the whole night. HAHA!!
I have been twitting a lot these few days and I finally understood what is so fun about it. My twitter browser will always be kept open for updates when I am at home and I use Twitterific on the iPhone when I am on the go. Thank god I use a mobile plan with data usage, if I were to use the pay-as-you-use plan, my bill would balloned to the point of no return. My data usage every month is averaging 4-5GB and that would cost like $20K-$30K with a data plan. =X
Currently awaiting the arrival of OS 4.0 for iPhone this summer. Finally iPhone users can multi task and create folders for the their Apps. I would say the iPhone is the only phone that I did not regret buying after trying out Nokia's N series running on symbian and Samsung's Omnia 2 running on Windows OS. APPLE FTW!!! Maybe I should try out BlackBerry Bold some time soon?!?!
Julia Tan is so going to kill me. =X
karl mooed at : 8:18 PM
Wednesday, March 24, 2010
People do make mistakes as we are humans after all. But in Singapore context, one mistake is all you need to get condemned. Take the case of the general manager of Parkway Healthcare Foundation who has three Masters and one PhD, she was convicted and got sentenced to 13 months in prison for cheating various charities of $5,760. It really makes people wonder why would she resort to cheating for such meagre amount when she is earning big bucks as a general manager at the higher management level. It was reported that she exploited the trust of the directors and also the weak internal controls in the organisation to her advantage.
I would seriously love to find out if any employers out there will be willing to hire her again after she had served her sentence. Of course, there is the yellow ribbon shit, but come on man, which employer will be willing to take the risk and hire her? Can anybody guarantee that she will not commit undesirable acts towards the company in the future? Even if she does get rehired, probably they will assign her with work that is of least importance which doesn't involve any money. When your integrity is in doubt, you can forget about climbing up the corporate ladder.
As people say, "You can do a million good things, but all it takes is just ONE bad thing and your future is gone." How many times do people remember those good/kind acts that you do? Even as friends, they will only remember those ugly stuffs you do but overlook the gazillions good things you did for them. And that, is the ugly truth. =)
The same goes for relationship isn't it? When you were with your ex ,do you remember more of those bad/ugly or those sweet/loving moments? It's human nature to behave/think this way right? Lousy boyfriends/girlfriends are dumped and forgotten but some other people might be willing to give them a chance.
At least they might turn over a new leaf with a new partner and start everything anew since the new partner would be kept in the dark due to "asymmetric information". And in PBF we learnt that "asymmetric information" will lead to "adverse selection". In layman terms, it meant choosing a "bad" partner due to lack of information about him/her. Applying this concept to relationships, it would also meant that "good" partners will be taken and what is left are all "bad" partners(unwanted). Damn nice analogy there right? But we all know there will be "gems" out there waiting to be discovered and treasured, and how we can find a piece of "gem" will be left to fate. =)
I wish for all the best for relationships among my friends/study gang. Hope you all can treasure your Significant Other well and for those without a SO, there will always a "gem" out there especially for you. So don't worry too much. =)
PS. I know my birthday is coming, but I am not one bit excited about it leh. Why ah? Is it because I have celebrated too many of them until I m like quite sian of it? HAHA!!
karl mooed at : 1:00 AM
Saturday, February 27, 2010
From the way you replied me, I will take it as you can condone Mr Chong's action for some reasons which you did not explain to me. You can say that this is between you and him, but in case you forgot, he was the one who insulted me in the first place. Shouldn't I deserve any sort of apology or explanation in any form?
Are you trying to say that my GF is leading your BF on in any way? I have no issues with her being in contact with Mr Chong because I trusted her not to betray my trust in her in any way. If both parties understand what roles they are suppose to play and know what NOT to do, I am totally OK with that. I already said that she still treats Mr Chong as a friend initially but the whole problem here lies in the CONTENT of the SMSes that he sent. She was disgusted while I felt insulted.
Anyway, the crux of the matter here is that you BELIEVED and TRUSTED in Mr Chong after he explained to you over his doings. I shall shut my hole. I believe all of us have eyes to see for ourselves and judge how things are now.
With regards to the postings on the forums, I do not see the need to remove them as those pictures do not have in any way relate to Mr Chong as no names nor numbers are used. And anyway the thread will get flushed down to the bottom of the forum in a day. Whatever that is posted on my GF's blog belongs to her and it is to her discretion to remove them. For those tags on my GF's blog, I believe we can't stop people from tagging since its a public tag board and anybody is free to tag whatever they want. In case you forgot, at the top left hand corner of your blog, the message which you typed, it applies to my GF's blog too. Or rather, anybody's blog.
I shall put this saga behind me and move on in life. If such nonsense happens again, I promise I will not be that polite anymore. Thank you.
karl mooed at : 10:35 PM
Friday, February 26, 2010
To Mr Chong's Girlfriend again,
In case you forgot, i left 3 questions for u in my previous blog entry. Instead of replying them, you asked me back another 2 questions. I shall answer them right in your face now.
1) Can you accept your gf for feeling sad that her ex that he quarreled with his gf?
Firstly, my GF HAS NEVER FELT A TINGE OF SADNESS whenever Mr Chong quarrels with you or whatsoever. She doesn't even care. You assumed she's feeling sad for him. And that is a fact. Can you show me any evidence to prove your claim?
Secondly, my GF has been treating Mr Chong as a friend all these while. If he hadn't stirred things up, things wouldn't come to such a state today. Evidence are those screenshots of the SMSes that your BF sent to my GF.
2) Can you accept the fact that your gf keeps thinking of her ex?
You used the word "keeps thinking" and then again, where is the evidence? Or is it the other way round that your BF keeps thinking of my GF? Mr Chong had been sending those kind of SMSes to my GF since more than a year ago. Doesn't it show that he is the one who keeps thinking of my GF? You can confront Mr Chong and ask him yourself and see if he admits. Has my GF ever sent Mr Chong any mushy SMSes or contact him in any way that is deemed as undesirable? So therefore your claim on the fact my GF keeps thinking of her ex is totally baseless and is only your pure assumptions.
And lastly, from the questions that you posed to me, I can see that you assumed too much and there is no evidence to back your claim. Since you like to rebut people so much, why not explain to me right in the face about those SMSes that your BF sent to my GF? Every single one that is posted on my GF's blog. Even Mr Chong himself could not explain to me when I SMSed him to confront him.
As you can see, I am still harping on the intentions of Mr Chong when he sent those SMSes. I shall not go into the insults that you, Mr Chong and my GF got into. I would really appreciate if you can explain to me the 3 questions that I posed to you in my previous entry.
Do you admit that all these started off when Mr Chong decided to contact my GF first? It has nothing to do my GF insulting him or anything. You also mention that he had be suffering in silence all these years, and if he really feels insulted, he can jolly well keep his distance away from my GF and stop contacting her. But did he backed off? NO!! Instead he chose to remain in contact with her. Isn't he asking for trouble?
And as for the postings on HWZ forums, I was trying to see the response of other people on this issue. And guess what? The truth speaks for itself. And out of the 200 posts and u only manage to find 4 posts to support yourself and that is only like 2%? Then what about the other 98%? I shall be modest and I dare say at least half of the 98% of the people are there are cursing and swearing at your BF. 2% and 98%, please do your math intelligently and look at the percentage. Then again, evidence speaks for itself. Up till now, you still couldn't support Mr Chong's actions with concrete evidence.
Anyway this will be my last post about you. I really see no point in arguing over this issue when you do not even have a case for it. Your blog entries will only serve as entertainment for all to enjoy and laugh over at. Unless you can convince me with some substantial evidences, if not I will just treat all those stuffs that you typed on your blog as rubbish.
The whole world, except you, and maybe your group of friends, can see that you're living in self-denial and contradiction this whole time. We were all here to wake you up, but you always chose to believe in yourself and in Mr Chong. Hence, all our effort has been fruitless and there's just no point in me saying anything anymore.
My questions posed to you are simple and logical. If you still aren't able to justify his words and actions, then I shan't comment any further. I shall say it one last time, rebut me only if you can support your claims with solid evidence.
karl mooed at : 11:38 AM
