The short version.
In the order it actually happened.
I learned this by building it. Every entry below is a system that either worked or taught me why it didn’t.
For fun, not money. I just liked making things work.
A coding agency. It barely worked, and I learned more from it than from any class I’ve taken.
Started a marketing agency with friends from high school. People made fun of us for it. We stopped sitting with our friend group and ate lunch in the school library so we could keep building. One friend quit because he thought it was a pipe dream. Carson Reed and I kept going.
Finished high school taking college classes, which bought me more time to build. That’s when things started moving.
Signed clients, ran it up, made almost no profit. The leads were fine. The follow up was broken. Overseas callers who didn’t call, didn’t log, didn’t care.
The first AI platform I built on went under, so I learned to build everything myself. Best thing that could’ve happened.
How to build the systems, step by step, no fluff. That’s where the real clients came from.
AI across their whole operation, around 150,000 calls a day. They were behind 450 appointments. We caught them up in a month and saved them over $85,000.
First big purchase I ever made. It was never the goal. It was proof that the work worked.
The GoHighLevel app that connects Retell AI and Vapi straight into your CRM. Certified partner with both.
150+ companies implemented. 3,000+ businesses on Sympana Connector. 500,000+ calls a day. Still the same rule: there’s always a faster way.