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Hi, I've been wondering given the current situation internationally regarding the type of content hosted here, and the additional moderation responsibilities being placed on larger and/or corporate platforms. These additional responsibilities will likely lead to the larger (especially corporate) ones becoming more risk averse (especially given large fines for non-compliance). Which will lead to over moderation of what's posted and/or hosted on the platforms. I'm currently thinking it may be time to bring back Git hosting for code and/or resources of modifications to the Lover's Lab ecosystem, not the old GitLab which required a lot of resources and work to maintain and system administrate. But a more new and lightweight service that uses the Git backend but is open source and thus auditable by the community, including the members on here along with moderation team and staff. In this case I'm referring to possibly using Forgej (Forgejo – Beyond coding. We forge.) to run the frontend (and/or backend) for the code hosting, may also present an opportunity to update other parts of the infrastructure. Find further optimisations and/or upgrades in software and/or hardware. If this is implemented I'd recommend using an LTS release, a more stable long term support lifecycle along with less frequent upgrades. Specifically the version 11 LTS release series of Forgejo or depending on when the decision is made and implementation occurs then the 15 LTS release series. Though may depend on best going for the 15 LTS series as it has the longest support lifecycle due to being EOL on 15 July 2027. If Forgejo is used this opens the door to community members of LoversLab, contributing code and/or funding back to Forgejo to help make it better. One more benefit worth mentioning: LL has many members with security expertise. If Forgejo is used, those members could audit the platform, submit vulnerability reports, and help strengthen the infrastructure. Because Forgejo is open‑source and community‑governed, LL wouldn’t just be using it — we could actively help improve it. Using open source (or free - as in freedom) software is a perfect balance to proprietary corporate hosting of code, for when over moderation hits! Using an open‑source platform also makes LL more welcoming to the developers and tool authors who build the backend resources that power so much of the content here. It gives them a stable, community‑controlled environment to collaborate in, without the risk of corporate over‑moderation disrupting their work. This isn’t just about code hosting — the forums and download sections also contain sensitive material. Using open‑source, self‑hosted infrastructure gives LL full control over cryptography, metadata, and security hardening, helping protect users from negative outcomes if a corporate platform is ever compromised or over‑moderated. This also helps address concerns some LL members have about increasing corporate moderation. By using open‑source, self‑hosted infrastructure, LL can protect both the forums and the downloads from external policy changes or automated scanning systems. It ensures that users aren’t exposed to negative outcomes simply because of the type of content they create or enjoy. Another potential benefit is that Forgejo is democratically governed. LL could even become a member with voting rights, giving the community a voice in the future of the platform and helping ensure it continues to support the needs of modders and creators. What do you people think of the idea of bringing back an updated more efficient and lightweight code hosting service? Are you having any trouble currently, or is brewing for your projects in regards to hosting the code? As well as making it effective to contribute while avoiding over-moderation by other platforms? I’d be interested in hearing staff thoughts on this if and when they have time. @Ashal — if this is something you’d be open to commenting on, I’d appreciate your perspective.

@Lazy Palm When storing the resources for the mod Papyrus Code, etc may I recommend using a small HP ProLiant Microserver or similar server running a OpenZFS (or BTRFS) based filesystem. If using OpenZFS this can be TrueNAS, XigmaNAS or FreeBSD. For BTRFS then either Rockstor or OpenMediaVault with the storage drive using BTRFS. Using a bit rot protected filesystem will seriously help keep the integrity of the resources for making the mod. That way you won't have bit rot creeping up on you and your mod corrupting its files. Additionally OpenZFS and/or BTRFS support making snapshots of the state of the files on the filesystem. This means before making changes you can take a snapshot of the current state, then afterwards revert back if needed (or desired).

With the optional final punishment it would default to off and be selected by a drop down. The drop down would have Dominant Managed and Sub customised. With sub customised it would have a slider for selecting the limit at or above which the final punishment would occur. The final punishment form could either take the form of being configurable and/or theme based depending on specific location its likely most likely form of execution. If it wasn't just block based beheading. If dominant managed they may chose to follow a theme based on location or select one based on their own choice. Anyway using Pama's Deadly Furniture has it fully compatible with the beheading NG mod which fixes the decapitation crash issue, when overlays are applied to head. This crash issue has been present in Skyrim since the RaceMenu modification in Skyrim Legendary Edition. The final punishment if necessary can be made so that it can only be enabled if the slavery features are active, as that would make it more hard core if active. Also would make it seem more like the player character is only a slave - property able to used, abused, sold on and other disposal as like an object not a sentient free being. If the slave is too disobedient the dominant (owner) may decide to either sell the slave on or kill them (execute). Before the final punishment is carried out at some point the dominant may give warnings to the slave - obey and comply or its the end of you!

They may be similar but have actual working mechanics and scripts tied to them. Also when appropriate API calls are made by mod authors they can be made from execution to just painful. Though others are very much execution devices, though could be the ultimate punishment for disobeying one too many times. Though could be an optional setting feature. If this is still not okay with the devices how about the player character being branded with marks showing them as a slave, can help with immersion. Also would additionally help with anti-escape mechanics, for capture and return to dominant.

@Lazy Palm Can Pama's Deadly Furniture support please be added to this modification? Also can you please also start using Devious Contraptions furniture?

Essentially since depending on the configuration Lola can be the carrier of items, for the Owner they may have them carrying the potions. Also having a potion budget would work in that depending on how many, there's in the pouch would determine whether the owner can heal, if there aren't any then they may take ones that are in Lola's inventory (if any). Though if a setting as part of a future potion control is added, the Lola could be restricted from having potions in their own inventory, have to go into the pouch (all potions added to pouch). When setting is active and/or Lola at or above a specific submission score (for the first time) then the owner would become angry, if Lola doesn't add every potion they have into this pouch. From this pouch the owner can use to heal themselves, also any healing Lola requires would come from the pouch, additionally the Playmates healing. The priority feature would allow for configuring (unless Hex Bolt decides), who gets first healing (Owner, Lola or Playmate). If the Playmate is Dominant then they would be about equal if, or equal to the Owner, otherwise they would be somewhere about equal to Lola. If there's not enough for healing Owner and/or Playmate (depending on dominance), then there's less likely hood for the submissive to receive healing. There'll be possible circumstances where submissive(s) would receive healing, from Owner or dominant Playmate. Also Telekinesis can grab and throw items so some kind of variant could be used for passing potions. Also there's them being passed without throwing when opportunity arises. Also that interception or loss could add an interesting new dynamic as it may mean that battles, can swing either way more, so you can to start have enough for Lola (and submissive Playmate), to still be healed however during battle events may lead to dropping to levels where the submissive don't get healed.

@Hex Bolt I have been thinking about this mod again, if not a potion control feature for Lola (could be a future addition). The allow potions setting for Owner could be refactored so that it operates like always allow (like currently), don't allow (like when unchecked currently), allow based on Potion Pouch contents. Could also allow for in SLTR the option of a potion budget in future, it could allow for configurability of who has priority for potions and also whether or not Lola and/or Playmate get them, in different circustances.

@Donuts4me Will there be any bad ending punishments and/or bad endings for the questline which can occur? Also anyway Pamatronic has made a pretty strong Modder's resource which adds interactive torture and execution equipment. Which can really add another level of immersion while reducing the work you need to do yourself. Pama´s Deadly Furniture (scripts) - Adult Mods - LoversLab Pama´s Permanent Crucifixes - Other - LoversLab Pama´s Interactive Beatup Module - Quest - LoversLab Also will the slaves be branded by this modification if your cautious due to threading issues with SlaveTats (classic - non NG) then checkout SlaveTatsNG (SlaveTatsNG - Adult Mods - LoversLab). So it can be considered for the future though may be the more easier addition.

Your welcome. I straddle both sites, but unlike the others on the NM I don't mind waiting. Your quote missed my addition as part of an edit so you may not have seen it. So here it is again:- If you pay particular attention to Buxom Wench Yuriana source code you may learn a new trick, namely how to handle several sex animation frameworks and making calls to them in one mod.

You mentioned on the other hosting location in update to provide you with links to the location of the developer documentation, necessary to add in the future support for OStim SA. Well I did a bit of digging and I found out that the GitHub hosts a set of readme documentation files, with info about calls that can be made to the mod. Also documentation about the Papyrus calls can also be found in the relevant Papyrus script source code (*.psc) files. Also the downloads for each released version also contains a set of same or similar readme or similar txt files. When porting its best to base it off of version 7.3.5d or later as several CTD bugs were fixed when updating to latest Skyrim AE (1.6.1170). OStimNG/data/SKSE/Plugins/OStim at main · VersuchDrei/OStimNG · GitHub OStimNG/data/Scripts/Source at main · VersuchDrei/OStimNG · GitHub For source code working mods using OStim check out Buxom Wench Yuriana (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/598) source code, it has had OStim support for a while. The author of the modification would be likely willing to help, should you run into trouble there's also the OStim NG (OStim Standalone) Discord (https://discord.gg/BnT5JQXynT). Also The Circle of Lust (The Circle of Lust at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community), has source code for its Papyrus Scripts present. Hope these help you when the time comes! Anyway I'm not sure if Flower Girls has this feature but OStim SA has a stimulation feature, a very useful feature, as the Love Slaves could go into extasy when the stimulation reaches a specific threshold or goes above it. On top of this OStim SA has support for Love Sense built right natively into its framework. If you pay particular attention to Buxom Wench Yuriana source code you may learn a new trick, namely how to handle several sex animation frameworks and making calls to them in one mod.

The Redux also held some bug fixes as well as new features. So may still be worth checking as if there's bug fixes, you may be duplicating effort to fix the same bug. Also using which ever fix is best.

Is your country or the EU planning something similar, or has it already been passed and has come into force or is about to?

If you live in the United Kingdom you'll now be noticing the effects of the Online Safety Bill (OSB) Act as residents need to prove they are 18+ to access the restricted content. Also events have occurred in the past and policies on a mod hosting site changed causing events in the mod community to really reach an uproar, thus mod authors scattered from that site. There's been authors that scattered from that site a proportion of which have since come back to the site, however others haven't, and some just stopped creating and/or sharing mods. The way its done requires an account which then gets your ID (or proof of age) attestation attached, so that the restricted content can be accessed.

@Lozeak There's a Redux (Framework version) of Devious Followers, which is based off of your older version of Devious Followers and Lupines. It has done at least some refactoring for one of the items for the future in it. The refactored version may not be fully functional but may aid in some of your work. Well worth checking out and deciding which way to go. The downloads were placed an a dump download. Ponzi Dump - Adult Mods - LoversLab

I would prefer it so that it can store several items for the whore outfit, as separate items. Especially if it's paired with AFAD - Armor Fitting and Degradation (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/151283). @Lozeak Any plans for content from the Deadly Furniture by Pama (Pama´s Deadly Furniture (scripts) - Downloads - Skyrim: Special Edition Adult Mods - LoversLab), for torture and/or punishment?