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Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Hübl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.
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Episode 209
August 25, 2026
Dr. Britt Wray – Transformational Resilience in the Climate Crisis
This week, Thomas sits down with award-winning researcher, author, and science communicator Britt Wray to discuss the need for collective care, systemic action, and spiritual introspection in addressing the climate crisis and its psychological effects.
Britt offers an approach to climate anxiety, called “Transformational Resilience,” that focuses on channeling emotional distress into meaningful action and care, rather than resorting to denial or returning to an unhelpful baseline.
She and Thomas also explore how climate action is like a relay race, where action is sustained over time by passing the baton, and how acting in alignment with environmental values reduces cognitive dissonance and fosters emotional well-being.
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This week, Thomas shares a teaching on what fuels your life energy and how this connects to your spiritual health and sense of purpose.
Thomas focuses in on the idea of interdependence, or interconnectedness, and how your vitality is dependent on relational dynamics, co-regulation, and collective wellness.
He explores healing modalities and spiritual practices that can recharge your energetic battery, with wisdom on how to shift from repetitive, stagnant patterns to emergent, authentic movements.
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This week, Thomas shares a teaching on becoming grounded to integrate ancestral wisdom and initiate yourself into the digital age in a spiritually centered and holistic way.
He explores the perspective shifts that occur in both healing and spiritual awakening, and how we can harness this transformative power to heal collectively and evolve technologically without abandoning spiritual connection.
Thomas also discusses the importance of embracing uncertainty to expand your consciousness, what it means to truly process the past, and how to open yourself to your unique, higher calling.
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This week, Thomas sits down with Ashanti Kunene, an activist, slam poet, writer, and the founder of Learning 2 Unlearn, for a conversation about spiritual alignment and integrity in leadership and the connection between individual healing and systems change.
In a time when we’re all faced with the repercussions of intergenerational trauma, oppressive systems, and unethical leadership, those of us who feel called to facilitate change must first confront our personal narratives, ethics, and shadow-self so that our actions align with our inner spiritual and moral compass.
Ashanti and Thomas explore what that really looks like, what people in positions of power are truly responsible and accountable for, and what we can learn from the good AND the bad deeds of those who came before us.
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