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(this is an expanded version of multiple posts made to our tumblr, with some additions and changes)

i feel like so many plurals could benefit from just being told that no, you do not need to use origin labels. you do not need to know how you formed, originally or otherwise, and you do not need to share this information with anyone else. this also applies to roles too, you do not need to use them whatsoever, you do not need to assign them to any member, no-one needs to know anyone's roles, and frankly you should be letting people decide if they want to use roles, and if so what role(s) they want to use for themself.

honestly i don't have anything against roles or origin terms as a concept, and i understand why they may be helpful for people. but a lot of the modern community's culture focuses heavily on both as if they're the most important parts of your plurality and existence as a system member respectively, while it's only one small part of your identity(s). take origins for an example. in a lot of cases, how you formed doesn't matter. you do not need to go on a massive quest to figure out why you're plural, especially when you've only recently figured out you're plural in the first place! 

as someone who's known about their plurality 5+ years now (although ironically i personally have only been here around 6 months :P), which isn't that long in the grand scheme of things but feels like forever when interacting with a lot of plurals especially on sites like tumblr honestly, things got far easier once we stopped worrying about both. i wish the plural community could understand this instead of pushing both onto newer systems. we especially had a really negative experience with roles, with us feeling like we had to assign each member one as soon as they formed into existence. this led to so many cases of people forced into roles where frankly they didn't want them, the role was frankly just restricting, and them like they have to stick to this and it's the central part of their existence. which is bad and horrible. 

i wish the plural community could understand this instead of pushing both onto newer systems
i feel like so many plurals would benefit far more from just focusing on the present, your plurality right now, and anything you need to do to make your plurality a positive experience for you all. not categorizing or worrying about your origins or each members "purpose"

or yknow. in the words of this image my headfriend silas made while complaining about terms in general:

An edit of the "just walk out" image, featuring a skeleton running on the right. There is text to the left which reads: "JUST WALK OUT. You can leave!!! Origin terms, -concious terms, sharing your source, role language in general, term system that doesn't fit your plurality, median/multiple spectrum, syscourse if you're quick enough, anything you don't want to fucking share! If it sucks... hit the bricks!! Real winners quit."

dr. ████ "doc" cerebrum (it/its)
Date/Time: 2025-07-07 02:32 (UTC)Posted by: [personal profile] lb_lee
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Also, just saying, we’ve had members here for twenty years and we don’t know for sure what made them, and we have low daily life amnesia and keep spreadsheets, records, and timelines tracking all sorts of stuff. If WE don’t know and have made internal study a profession, why should anyone? People put weirdly high pressure on themselves to know!
Date/Time: 2025-07-07 16:06 (UTC)Posted by: [personal profile] lb_lee
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Also, DID and traumagenic aren’t the same. Go to an old school DID con, say a genic term to them, and they’ll just stare at you blankly. The cultures overlap some places online, but the web is not the world. Also, DID comes with amnesia, it’s a required part of the dx, which makes having everything instantly figured out even more absurd.
Date/Time: 2025-07-07 21:25 (UTC)Posted by: [personal profile] ysabetwordsmith
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>> i feel like so many plurals could benefit from just being told that no, you do not need to use origin labels. <<

It certainly isn't a requirement. It can be useful in problem-solving, but not essential there either. Nobody should be pestered or made to feel lesser because they don't have or want origin labels.

>> you do not need to share this information with anyone else.<<

Privacy applies.

>>a lot of the modern community's culture focuses heavily on both as if they're the most important parts of your plurality and existence as a system member respectively<<

Sounds like the queer community. Some people obsess over labels, some don't care, and others are vehemently opposed.

>> i wish the plural community could understand this instead of pushing both onto newer systems. <<

Well, anyone who knows better can make a point of saying that when you spot newcomers. It'll help.

>> i feel like so many plurals would benefit far more from just focusing on the present, your plurality right now, and anything you need to do to make your plurality a positive experience for you all. <<

Well reasoned.

Again, I've had a very similar talk regarding sex/romance identities. It does not matter if your orientation is fluid, unclear, or a phase. How you feel today is important and something to work with as you see fit. So what if it might be something else next year? This isn't next year, this is today.

>> or yknow. in the words of this image my headfriend silas made while complaining about terms in general: <<

I love that graphic.

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