I’ll debunk this in two parts.
1. First I’ll mention the many millions killed by capitalist nations. (Not the full list, but just some.)
2. Then I’ll just debunk everything we’ve all heard about the USSR/etc.
eg:
“The United States most likely has been responsible since WWII for the deaths of between 20 and 30 million people in wars and conflicts scattered over the world.”
— http://www.countercurrents.org/lucas240407.htm
“The United States Has Killed At Least 8 Million People”
— http://www.peaceonearth.net/8million.htm
etc.
Both of these are ignoring many more millions killed, eg the slavery/murder of Africans, genocide of Native Americans, loss of life from American eugenics, & many more killings.
Plus, capitalist famines generally (India, Africa, Ireland, etc) have killed hundreds of millions.
Winston Churchill:
“I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.”
Further, you could add assassination around the world (especially South America), & atrocities by capitalist & US funded states, like the anti-democratic regimes of Iran, the Congo Free State atrocity, colonialism, etc.
But capitalists ignore all of such when telling about the alleged “atrocities” of (eg) the USSR.
Next, practically everything we’ve all heard about the USSR & other communists is false.
1. Gulags. Gulags are called killing camps on Fox News.
Reality: Over their entire history they had about a 95% survival rate. (But lower during ww2.) Which is expected with very limited resources & so on. And those executed include many Nazi soldiers as well as alleged murderers/etc.
And “gulags” are just prisons. Every large nation has a terrible corrupt prison system.
2. The Ukrainian famine is called “killing” in the West & is assumed to be an act of the state.
Reality: eg, the USSR sent emergency food & did other things to try to help.
“The 1932 reductions in state procurements and exports proved hopelessly inadequate. So did the regime’s attempt to deliver food relief. In a series of decisions in 1932-33, the Politburo reversed its policy to reserve grain relief for the cities. In March 1932, it ‘substantially reduced’ the food rations… The urban death rate doubled in the main famine regions. Between August 1932 and January 1933, the Politburo reluctantly reduced grain collection plans by 4 million tons, and the state failed to collect a planned 1 million more. In 1932-33, it released 2-3.5 million tons of grain collections for rural consumption as food, seed, and fodder, of which 330,000 tons were for food… Most state agencies, even including the repressive apparatus, were largely overwhelmed by the scale of the famine tragedy.”
— https://encrypted.google.com/books?id=Bc30ytJmwzMC&pg=PA502
Also:
“Western historian Dr. Mark Tauger, who concluded that the famine was not fundamentally ‘man-made’.[81][82] He says that rustic plant disease, rather than drought, was the cause of the famine.”
— wiki
3. Some people count the people Stalin drafted (and killed by the Nazis) as killed by Stalin. This is not honest. And so on.
The people who deserve the blame (for troop deaths) are obviously the Nazis.
As for Mao:
1. There is no verification at all of the allegations made by Mao’s political opponents that (eg) 10m+ people died because the Great Leap Forward.
2. The truth is there were real natural disasters which (partially) led to the famine:
“The Encyclopædia Britannica yearbooks from 1958 to 1962 also reported abnormal weather, followed by droughts and floods. This included 760 millimetres (30 in) of rain in Hong Kong across five days in June 1959, part of a pattern that hit all of Southern China.
As a result of these factors, year over year grain production dropped in China. The harvest was down by 15% in 1959. By 1960, it was at 70% of its 1958 level.”
— wiki
Similarly:
> “According to the China Statistical Yearbook (1984), crop production decreased from 200 million tons (1958) to 143.5 million tons (1960).”
— wiki
And grain/etc shortages used to be common, & such a long history of famine was very much pre-Mao & something he inherited:
– Worldinfo.org:
““China has been living in the shadow of famine for centuries” (Ashton, 620). 1876-79: drought in north China led to famine, which resulted in between 9.5 and 13 million deaths”
— http://worldinfo.org/2012/01/famine-in-china/
Next:
– 2) Even if Mao’s actions did more harm than good during the famine, that has to be understood while also knowing Mao era vaccine programs saved tens of millions of lives.
– 3) When we see population numbers which are not as high as expected, we have to remember that during famine times millions of women don’t marry & have kids. Part of such numbers are birth related, not starvation.
It’s fair to assume any politicians/rulers had mistakes, so it’s likely that Mao did some during the famine.
In the West what we see, instead of balanced debate or criticism about Mao era policies, is more like a religious mob- people are taught to believe (via faith) any allegations made against about Mao era China.
Next, the Khemer Rogue.
We were taught they were communists. Really Pol Pot & his VP (equivalent to VP) said they weren’t communists, & that they wanted Cambodia to belong to the west. (ie, capitalism.)
Leng Sary:
“We are not communists … we are revolutionaries’ who do not ‘belong to the commonly accepted grouping of communist Indochina.”
— said in 1977, quoted by Vickery, Cambodia: 1978-1983, p. 288
Pol Pot:
“When I die, my only wish is that Cambodia remain Cambodia and belong to the West. It is over for communism, and I want to stress that.”
—brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/p/polpot184779.html
They were ex-communists who flipped sides, & became paid by the West/capitalist side (who they endorsed) to fight communist Vietnam.
- Communists defeated the Khmer Rogue.
- Capitalists funded the Khmer Rogue.
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