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3.5.0 installed standard library on Windows has LF line endings #69290
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assignee='https://github.com/zooba'closed_at=<Date2015-09-22.22:12:26.254>created_at=<Date2015-09-14.05:33:44.389>labels= ['invalid', 'expert-installation', 'OS-windows']
title='3.5.0 installed standard library on Windows has LF line endings'updated_at=<Date2015-09-22.22:12:26.252>user='https://github.com/zware'
It would be nice to install the standard library (and test suite) with CRLF line endings, to allow for reading/editing with Notepad. Horrible though it is, it's at least always available :)
Steve, this may just be an issue of how your repository is checked out; I assume if your working directory has LF line endings, that will propagate to the installer/installed files? The hg 'eol' extension takes care of making everything CRLF on Windows, but only if it's enabled before the working directory is created (you can force an EOL update by doing hg up null && hg up 3.5 with 'eol' enabled).
Well, even if the Windows build was on fire and children were dying, we couldn't do anything about it until next week--Steve's on vacation. I expect he'll weigh in on this when he gets back.
AFAIK, Wordpad is also always available (has been at least up to Win 7), and it works with \n file and font resizing is obvious, but it is paper-oriented and for me, defaults to 8-1/2 x 11 with 1-1/4 side margins, leaving 6", too small for 80 char lines. The 'ruler' does not work to change page margins or spacing of existing text. One has to discover to go to <File Symbol> / PageSetup to display as one needs to. On the other hand, Notepad uses the full width of the window, as sized. So I have to reluctantly call this a regression.
BreamoreBoy commented on Sep 18, 2015
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Windows 10 has Wordpad, I've never liked 'nice', as far as I'm concerned it's completely meaningless, and right now we've more important things to think about on Windows. Hence all in all to me this is a nothing issue.
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zware commentedon Sep 14, 2015
It would be nice to install the standard library (and test suite) with CRLF line endings, to allow for reading/editing with Notepad. Horrible though it is, it's at least always available :)
Steve, this may just be an issue of how your repository is checked out; I assume if your working directory has LF line endings, that will propagate to the installer/installed files? The hg 'eol' extension takes care of making everything CRLF on Windows, but only if it's enabled before the working directory is created (you can force an EOL update by doing
hg up null && hg up 3.5with 'eol' enabled).bitdancer commentedon Sep 14, 2015
I'm pretty sure the hg eol extension would need to get involved here. This may not be worth the pain it would likely cause, but I could be wrong :)
vstinner commentedon Sep 15, 2015
Oh maybe Windows can realized in 2015 that other operating systems use different line ending and enhance notepad to be more "portable"? :-p
larryhastings commentedon Sep 15, 2015
Is this a change (I hesitate to use the word "regression") as of Python 3.5.0?
zware commentedon Sep 15, 2015
Victor: that would be ideal, but hoping for that seems an exercise in futility :)
Larry: It seems to be; the test case that brought it my attention (Lib\test\test_tcl.py) has CRLF in my 3.4.3 install and LF in 3.5.0.
larryhastings commentedon Sep 15, 2015
Well, even if the Windows build was on fire and children were dying, we couldn't do anything about it until next week--Steve's on vacation. I expect he'll weigh in on this when he gets back.
terryjreedy commentedon Sep 18, 2015
AFAIK, Wordpad is also always available (has been at least up to Win 7), and it works with \n file and font resizing is obvious, but it is paper-oriented and for me, defaults to 8-1/2 x 11 with 1-1/4 side margins, leaving 6", too small for 80 char lines. The 'ruler' does not work to change page margins or spacing of existing text. One has to discover to go to <File Symbol> / PageSetup to display as one needs to. On the other hand, Notepad uses the full width of the window, as sized. So I have to reluctantly call this a regression.
BreamoreBoy commentedon Sep 18, 2015
Windows 10 has Wordpad, I've never liked 'nice', as far as I'm concerned it's completely meaningless, and right now we've more important things to think about on Windows. Hence all in all to me this is a nothing issue.
zooba commentedon Sep 22, 2015
Yeah, this was just me forgetting to enable eol when I last recreated my build machine. It's on now, so the next release will be fine.