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It takes a massive amount of effort just to keep up with the changes to the language and build system Microsoft is doing, probably at least 2 man-years to catch up to C# 7 / the .NET Core stuff. That's a bit too much for a hobby project -- we don't have that kind of free time anymore, and even if we did, there are better ways to spend it than playing catch-up with a huge dev team at Microsoft.
Combine that with the free community edition, and there's little space for multiple open-source C# IDEs.
Remember that MonoDevelop is still around; and that VS Code is also open-source! Start with one of those if you need a portable IDE.
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With Visual Studio Community you have all the necesary to start working, I also thing that is more than the essencial, I use SharpeDevelop when Visual Studio was closed to the comunity and Sharp Develop help me so much so thank to the team of SharDevelop, Thanks for all your effort hope to see some new projects from you.
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Yeah vs community is great, is almost perfect, but it isn't low weight as SD (45mb), it isn't portable and it isn't fast as SD for old PC...
I loved use SD in my old laptop or at school thanks to the fact that it can run via usb.
Anyway i will accept the decision of the developers and i hope they can get the best from their next projects, they have gifted me many hours of fun during the years! Thanks to all of them <3
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@dgrunwald If the project is dead, would you possibly consider putting a note indicating such in a prominent location on this repo or the project's homepage?
Many people including myself like what you (I assume you) have created, but if the project has no life and no future, it would be greatly appreciated if that was formally communicated up-front so people don't waste their time.
Thanks for your consideration.
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If it wasn't for SharpDevelop my company would have never been able to happen, literally!! In the early '00s, there was no better open solution for a startup. It spun off the fork, MonoDevelop, and brought so much to the community. Please don't give up hope.
I was really looking forward to the continuous efforts on SharpReports. Once again, an amazing open utility with potential.
All you folks on the #develop team have and had some amazing visions. don't ever give that up.
@subchannel13, not here to argue history but double-check your dates.
.NET 1.0 official released February 13, 2002 (the early 2000s). C# 2.0 released, 2006 (mid-2000s). These guys helped open the door to better IDEs and forerunners of open source for .NET. Which in-turn Mono Develop was based on SharpDevelop to bring it to Linux - also branded as, Visual Studio for Mac.
Hello, it would be good to target it .NET Core 3.1 as it announced that .NET Framework will die with version 4.8 and everything will be unified around .NET 5.0 which will be cross platform. That way we would be on par with VS Code and Visual Studio. Here the link. https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-net-5/
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@Gyoom<https://github.com/gyoom> I'm up for helping out. I've already pulled your repository and made a local branch. Was going to update the .proj file headers to match VS2019. Was also going to update msbuild to VS2019. I've already downloaded and installed all of the microsoft stuff to do it. This may take a little while since I've never seen this code before. We'll see. If you have any work already done or suggestions, let me know. If there's anyone else who has experience with msbuild stuff, I'd appreciate the help.
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Just so everyone understands, as far as I know, the latest version of MSBuild should support all of the frameworks currently out there. That should include .NET Standard, Framework, and Core. Your target framework is specified in the VS projects files and MSBuild uses that to build and compile your code. That's why I want to update MSBuild and the solution and project file formats as a first step. If anyone knows anything I don't, let me know. I'm still doing research around all of this. Also, I'm not even going to try to go cross platform at this point. SD is not at the moment and it would be a huge task rewriting it to be cross platform. For starters, it's using .NET Framework 4.5 which is Windows only. Just switching it to Core would be a big rewrite.
Updating Intellisense is going to happen after that and that's going to be a lot of work. The Core framework stuff is going to be a real challenge for Intellisense. It looks like SD has little to no support for Core so I'm betting it's all going to have to be from scratch.
@dgrunwald@mrward
It is easier for you to remove the msbuild and put the mono.
You could take the monodevelop files and use the nuget and xamarin reference (android / ios / mac / linux)
instead of using the microsoft form you could use etos.form.
I have a link to a repository that compiles for android by Sharpdevelop, only the installer part of linux / mac / ios would be missing.
github.com/dot42/SharpDevelop
If you are thinking of putting sharpdevelop for linux and mac, I can send you a tutorial on generating installers on that OS.
But the basic thing would be to create the program and its folders and open them on the OS and create the installer.
My mother tongue Portuguese
To be able to have money to develop and of the greatest focus they can do like godot to create a patrion. https://www.patreon.com/godotengine
If you want I can create the site.
Good luck.
Hi Daniel,
I would like to pay my respects for all your work. I can understand why you stopped and I think that you actually did great. Such pace would have led you nowhere and there are cool projects out there that require our help. I wasn't a contributor. But the very first lines of code I produced were on SharpDevelop. Thanks a lot for giving us that opportunity. I would like to thank every contributor for putting your effort all these years to offer such great product.
I'm grateful for SharpDevelop, especially as it now seems to be the only alternative to Visual Studio. I'm just starting with it but have already learned something about the code structure and project files, from the software and from a secondhand Stephen Walther book considered (at least once) to be the Bible on the topic. (MonoDevelop gets good reviews but appears to have no installer for Windows and can only be built from source. The prerequisites list Visual Studio as a requirement...and I thought the object was to avoid having to use that!)
I don't suppose anyone can point me to a manual for SharpDevelop? I can't find anything on line and have had lots of problems with its virtual directories and handling of "code behind", basically because I'm a relative beginner with web coding who doesn't know the software and whose knowledge doesn't extend far beyond "Classic ASP"... A URL would be really great if everything hasn't already been taken down.
I am looking for a modern day fork of SharpDevelop as I want something newer than what SharpDevelop supports. I want something as light as SharpDevelop, as VS 2019 takes up a lot of space, and to use the community version there is a 30 day trial. But to extend it you need to sign into a Microsoft account.
I am looking for a modern day fork of SharpDevelop as I want something newer than what SharpDevelop supports. I want something as light as SharpDevelop, as VS 2019 takes up a lot of space, and to use the community version there is a 30 day trial. But to extend it you need to sign into a Microsoft account.
I am looking for a modern day fork of SharpDevelop as I want something newer than what SharpDevelop supports. I want something as light as SharpDevelop, as VS 2019 takes up a lot of space, and to use the community version there is a 30 day trial. But to extend it you need to sign into a Microsoft account.
Visual Studio Code is an editor, not IDE. And it's not exactly lightweight.
Visual Studio Code is as light as SharpDevelop used to be. And it provides Intellisense, Code completion, Debug functionalities, Git graphical support and extensions. What is your reason for describing Visual Studio Code as an editor in 2020?
I am looking for a modern day fork of SharpDevelop as I want something newer than what SharpDevelop supports. I want something as light as SharpDevelop, as VS 2019 takes up a lot of space, and to use the community version there is a 30 day trial. But to extend it you need to sign into a Microsoft account.
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dgrunwald commentedon Sep 17, 2017
Yes, it's dead.
It takes a massive amount of effort just to keep up with the changes to the language and build system Microsoft is doing, probably at least 2 man-years to catch up to C# 7 / the .NET Core stuff. That's a bit too much for a hobby project -- we don't have that kind of free time anymore, and even if we did, there are better ways to spend it than playing catch-up with a huge dev team at Microsoft.
Combine that with the free community edition, and there's little space for multiple open-source C# IDEs.
Remember that MonoDevelop is still around; and that VS Code is also open-source! Start with one of those if you need a portable IDE.
pgaskin commentedon Sep 17, 2017
See also #783
fretelweb commentedon Sep 18, 2017
With Visual Studio Community you have all the necesary to start working, I also thing that is more than the essencial, I use SharpeDevelop when Visual Studio was closed to the comunity and Sharp Develop help me so much so thank to the team of SharDevelop, Thanks for all your effort hope to see some new projects from you.
Drakaroft commentedon Sep 20, 2017
Yeah vs community is great, is almost perfect, but it isn't low weight as SD (45mb), it isn't portable and it isn't fast as SD for old PC...
I loved use SD in my old laptop or at school thanks to the fact that it can run via usb.
Anyway i will accept the decision of the developers and i hope they can get the best from their next projects, they have gifted me many hours of fun during the years! Thanks to all of them <3
e-volusian commentedon Sep 22, 2017
@dgrunwald If the project is dead, would you possibly consider putting a note indicating such in a prominent location on this repo or the project's homepage?
Many people including myself like what you (I assume you) have created, but if the project has no life and no future, it would be greatly appreciated if that was formally communicated up-front so people don't waste their time.
Thanks for your consideration.
DamianSuess commentedon Oct 5, 2017
If it wasn't for SharpDevelop my company would have never been able to happen, literally!! In the early '00s, there was no better open solution for a startup. It spun off the fork, MonoDevelop, and brought so much to the community. Please don't give up hope.
I was really looking forward to the continuous efforts on SharpReports. Once again, an amazing open utility with potential.
All you folks on the #develop team have and had some amazing visions. don't ever give that up.
subchannel13 commentedon Oct 6, 2017
@DamianSuess In early to mid 2000s there was no C# :)
smallswan399 commentedon Oct 6, 2017
Oh, so sad!
DamianSuess commentedon Oct 6, 2017
@subchannel13, not here to argue history but double-check your dates.
.NET 1.0 official released February 13, 2002 (the early 2000s). C# 2.0 released, 2006 (mid-2000s). These guys helped open the door to better IDEs and forerunners of open source for .NET. Which in-turn Mono Develop was based on SharpDevelop to bring it to Linux - also branded as, Visual Studio for Mac.
Ref:
(Updated history notes: 2020-06-06)
subchannel13 commentedon Oct 7, 2017
@DamianSuess You missed the joke, crusader.
DamianSuess commentedon Oct 8, 2017
@subchannel13 my mistake
longtth commentedon Nov 2, 2017
@fretelweb : Visual Studio Community is f**** slow compare to SharpDevelop :'(
linquize commentedon Nov 12, 2017
SharpDevelop can start very fast, even with traditional hard disk.
limapedro commentedon Nov 19, 2017
So sad, SD is my favorite C# IDE, it is faster than VS, I hope someday the project continues, but thanks guys for this awesome work.
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Tramaz commentedon Jan 21, 2020
grip-x commentedon Jan 24, 2020
Just so everyone understands, as far as I know, the latest version of MSBuild should support all of the frameworks currently out there. That should include .NET Standard, Framework, and Core. Your target framework is specified in the VS projects files and MSBuild uses that to build and compile your code. That's why I want to update MSBuild and the solution and project file formats as a first step. If anyone knows anything I don't, let me know. I'm still doing research around all of this. Also, I'm not even going to try to go cross platform at this point. SD is not at the moment and it would be a huge task rewriting it to be cross platform. For starters, it's using .NET Framework 4.5 which is Windows only. Just switching it to Core would be a big rewrite.
Updating Intellisense is going to happen after that and that's going to be a lot of work. The Core framework stuff is going to be a real challenge for Intellisense. It looks like SD has little to no support for Core so I'm betting it's all going to have to be from scratch.
LuizAntonioPereira commentedon Jan 30, 2020
@dgrunwald @mrward
It is easier for you to remove the msbuild and put the mono.
You could take the monodevelop files and use the nuget and xamarin reference (android / ios / mac / linux)
instead of using the microsoft form you could use etos.form.
I have a link to a repository that compiles for android by Sharpdevelop, only the installer part of linux / mac / ios would be missing.
github.com/dot42/SharpDevelop
If you are thinking of putting sharpdevelop for linux and mac, I can send you a tutorial on generating installers on that OS.
But the basic thing would be to create the program and its folders and open them on the OS and create the installer.
My mother tongue Portuguese
To be able to have money to develop and of the greatest focus they can do like godot to create a patrion.
https://www.patreon.com/godotengine
If you want I can create the site.
Good luck.
StEvUgnIn commentedon Mar 26, 2020
Hi Daniel,
I would like to pay my respects for all your work. I can understand why you stopped and I think that you actually did great. Such pace would have led you nowhere and there are cool projects out there that require our help. I wasn't a contributor. But the very first lines of code I produced were on SharpDevelop. Thanks a lot for giving us that opportunity. I would like to thank every contributor for putting your effort all these years to offer such great product.
TyneBridges commentedon Apr 4, 2020
I'm grateful for SharpDevelop, especially as it now seems to be the only alternative to Visual Studio. I'm just starting with it but have already learned something about the code structure and project files, from the software and from a secondhand Stephen Walther book considered (at least once) to be the Bible on the topic. (MonoDevelop gets good reviews but appears to have no installer for Windows and can only be built from source. The prerequisites list Visual Studio as a requirement...and I thought the object was to avoid having to use that!)
TyneBridges commentedon Apr 9, 2020
I don't suppose anyone can point me to a manual for SharpDevelop? I can't find anything on line and have had lots of problems with its virtual directories and handling of "code behind", basically because I'm a relative beginner with web coding who doesn't know the software and whose knowledge doesn't extend far beyond "Classic ASP"... A URL would be really great if everything hasn't already been taken down.
somerandompiggo commentedon May 21, 2020
2001 i think C# launched
LuizAntonioPereira commentedon Jun 19, 2020
https://github.com/sponsors/wieslawsoltes
forkiesassds commentedon Jun 29, 2020
I am looking for a modern day fork of SharpDevelop as I want something newer than what SharpDevelop supports. I want something as light as SharpDevelop, as VS 2019 takes up a lot of space, and to use the community version there is a 30 day trial. But to extend it you need to sign into a Microsoft account.
StEvUgnIn commentedon Jul 5, 2020
Try Visual Studio Code https://code.visualstudio.com/
Documentation for C# https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/csharp
Documentation for .NET Core https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/dotnet
subchannel13 commentedon Jul 5, 2020
Visual Studio Code is an editor, not IDE. And it's not exactly lightweight.
chengs2035 commentedon Sep 12, 2020
i'm so sad.....This is a pity，I like this IDE, I have used it for 5 years
StEvUgnIn commentedon Sep 12, 2020
Visual Studio Codeis as light asSharpDevelopused to be. And it provides Intellisense, Code completion, Debug functionalities, Git graphical support and extensions. What is your reason for describing Visual Studio Code as an editor in 2020?hellboy81 commentedon Sep 13, 2020
Visual Studio Code is IDE and enough lightweight on modern hardware.