Damnit. And I couldn't watch the last episode - the portrayal of fen in SPN causes a deep visceral Do Not Want reaction for me. Please don't tell me it's more of that.
And it's not just offensive and not-funny, it's disappointing. SPN plays with US folklore/mythology (including Christian theology) anyway, and Kripke could have been so clever in showing how TV shows become part of US culture, part of the folklore or whatever. But instead, it's played for laughs (completely ineffectually, in my case) and insults a significant portion of the fanbase.
I never really thought the writers had a problem with women on account of Dean's language (wtf) or the number of civilian women who died, because civilians in SPN are going to die, and I never had a problem with their female villains getting killed, because villains get killed.
But these were female allies, and the way they died, not to mention the fact that they died in a way that is 99.9% certain to be permanent when male allies have been killed-and-brought-back, or disabled-but-not-destroyed, made me angry.
And it is already being blamed on the slash fandom in certain quarters, because apparently not wanting certain characters to be "love interests" and liking them more when they're played as professionals doing a job = wanting those characters to die horribly. Also, a sop was thrown to the het-shippers right before the death, so that they'll be extra obnoxious in the meta-wars to come. DNW.
Jim is being a good husband and not reminding me that being invested in anything on television is an astoundingly stupid thing to do. I know he is thinking it, but you have to give people credit for knowing better than to say what they think sometimes, because they can't really help what they think :)
(This is actually the kind of thing I don't mind being spoiled for, bc I don't want it in the story anyway so it doesn't make the experience of watching/reading worse.)
Ugh. *That's* why they were reintroduced.
It's not stupid to get invested in stories, I guess?
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Date: 2009-11-20 04:51 pm (UTC)And it's not just offensive and not-funny, it's disappointing. SPN plays with US folklore/mythology (including Christian theology) anyway, and Kripke could have been so clever in showing how TV shows become part of US culture, part of the folklore or whatever. But instead, it's played for laughs (completely ineffectually, in my case) and insults a significant portion of the fanbase.
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Date: 2009-11-20 06:48 pm (UTC)I never really thought the writers had a problem with women on account of Dean's language (wtf) or the number of civilian women who died, because civilians in SPN are going to die, and I never had a problem with their female villains getting killed, because villains get killed.
But these were female allies, and the way they died, not to mention the fact that they died in a way that is 99.9% certain to be permanent when male allies have been killed-and-brought-back, or disabled-but-not-destroyed, made me angry.
And it is already being blamed on the slash fandom in certain quarters, because apparently not wanting certain characters to be "love interests" and liking them more when they're played as professionals doing a job = wanting those characters to die horribly. Also, a sop was thrown to the het-shippers right before the death, so that they'll be extra obnoxious in the meta-wars to come. DNW.
Jim is being a good husband and not reminding me that being invested in anything on television is an astoundingly stupid thing to do. I know he is thinking it, but you have to give people credit for knowing better than to say what they think sometimes, because they can't really help what they think :)
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Date: 2009-11-20 09:47 pm (UTC)Ugh. *That's* why they were reintroduced.
It's not stupid to get invested in stories, I guess?
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Date: 2009-11-20 09:52 pm (UTC)