Thomas displays a wide range of emotions
May. 14th, 2007 08:59 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ginasketchSome coloured animation, sans background. Now to start on the scene with the clueless Satanists.
ETA: frozen all comments til further notice. I have a head ache.
ETA: frozen all comments til further notice. I have a head ache.
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Date: 2007-05-14 08:38 pm (UTC)Thomas looks suitably fed up.
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Date: 2007-05-15 08:25 am (UTC)Back to the grindstone...
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Date: 2007-05-14 08:45 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-05-15 08:28 am (UTC)Hope you like the finished product at the end of year show, and the glaring errors don't look too obvious on a projected screen!
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Date: 2007-05-14 09:10 pm (UTC)Must be nice to be able to see the progress. It looks really good!
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Date: 2007-05-15 08:25 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-05-14 09:27 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-05-15 08:26 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-05-14 11:37 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-05-15 08:26 am (UTC)Besides, I don't own the rights to it. It's just a student project for my showreel.
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Date: 2007-05-17 12:48 pm (UTC)but i can't reach you.
i've been thru a bad patch, it's mostly becasue i can't speak to you that i write too many things.
Can you give me a time and day when i can speak?
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Date: 2007-05-17 12:56 pm (UTC)You can cash the printer cheque now.
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Date: 2007-05-17 01:09 pm (UTC)I'm not going to speak to you again until you get over me. the way you're behaving is not healthy.
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Date: 2007-05-17 01:22 pm (UTC)my behavior is ok, i promise.
i just went off at one late at night, and couldn't reach u to get my back to normal.
It' won't happen anymore.
Just to talk for a few minutes and feel a bit less lonely is what i ask.
i stil enjoy mentioning a few things about my day with you. You've been a friend to me above all things. It's now that i've needed you as this, more than ever.
i don't even know if u get my emails...cos u don't reply.
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Date: 2007-05-17 03:12 pm (UTC)Adey, Gina doesn't reply because frankly, you're acting like a stalker. You're upsetting her and she wants you should leave her alone. BACK THE FUCK OFF.
And no, she didn't tell me to write this. Gina is one of my best friends, she has enough to deal with right now, and I don't like seeing my friends being hurt. If you're over her, stop emailing her, stop phoning her, stop texting her, and just LEAVE HER ALONE!
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Date: 2007-05-17 03:38 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-05-17 01:54 pm (UTC)When rational people have forms that need signing from someone who is obvious upset with them, they send the forms via post with a return receipt requested, making sure to keep a copy for themselves, along with an explanation in non-emotional language about why they need those forms signed. You are still trying to rationalise and manipulate Gina into speaking to you. That is not "ok" behaviour. It's not even close to ok behaviour.
You're 30. You need to realise that as much as it hurts, you're an adult and an adult gets the help they need rather than clinging to an ended relationship like a sinking ship. I suggest in all seriousness that you speak to a professional about your problems letting go. It's been months. If it were me, I would already have called the police on your ass. So, as much as I understand pain, you have the option of dealing with it responsibly, or of dragging yourself and the person you claim to still care about through hell for your own personal instant gratification.
Grow up, behave like an adult, stop being a creepy stalker.
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Date: 2007-05-17 02:03 pm (UTC)but i'm perfectly rational dude...
she knows i get upset sometimes still about it, and that the best way to calm me down is to hav a few words with her...
yes, i'm 30, and i expect others to be understanding and caring in these situations.
i'm not clinging. She clung to me once you can ask her. I used the words 'i'm over it '. just now.
there is no personal gratification, there is only being normal...and keeping people company when they need it.
i think you should mind your own business...
and i'm upset even more than gina may have changed so much towards me , for so little reason, that others for some reason think they can intrude.
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Date: 2007-05-17 02:11 pm (UTC)"yes, i'm 30, and i expect others to be understanding and caring in these situations."
You're expecting an ex who is clearly upset with you to act like she is still your friend. That's not rational. You've not treated her as a friend. You've attacked her verbally and harassed her via email, phone and text.
The difference between her clinging to you and you clinging to her is that when she did it, you were both of the understanding that you were in a mutually giving relationship. This is not the same. The relationship is over. An adult deals with the pain of it and seeks out help if needed. A child lashes out and then tries to cuddle up and say sorry. Guess which pattern you are following?
"here is no personal gratification, there is only being normal...and keeping people company when they need it."
There is nothing normal about what you are doing. You are unwilling or unable to understand her requests for you to leave you alone. You insist that she OWES you something, some kind of friendship. She doesn't. You don't deserve a relationship with her. No one ever deserves a relationship with anyone, it's a mutually agreeable relationship, or else it is harassment.
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Date: 2007-05-17 02:53 pm (UTC)well, there is certainly a good deal of truth in what you're saying ...but whether it applies to me or not, is where the talk of boundaries comes in, and those between you and me.
"You're expecting an ex who is clearly upset with you to act like she is still your friend. "
Yes, actually we had agreed to do our best to stay friends....She knows this. I've always treated her as a friend, but i've gotten upset and a bit jealous and i apologised again....quite quickly.
i've been trying hard to move on also....
but talking has helped the most...
maybe that has been a lot to ask....but believe me, i thought she liked talking to me sometimes,
maybe an illusion, and i'd never say that i'd harass anyone., ever...but i did leave a few unkind messages, and when she didn't respond, and i was upset....
She doesn't owe me anything, no.
I never said so. But i wanted her to know that i can speak to her as a friend again, and be ok.
well, you;re no fool. and i won't be either.
so , hopefuly we can all chill out now.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-05-17 03:06 pm (UTC)....so how do u go about seeking help exactly?...
by ringing someone up?
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Date: 2007-05-17 03:09 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-05-17 03:14 pm (UTC)i already knew i'd failed, as soon as i'd left gina a message. ..but i congratulate you. keep it up.
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Date: 2007-05-17 03:18 pm (UTC)As for calling my sister at 3am, it's not always rational, but it's certainly a better option, because she will always be on my side. She's my sister. It's safe.
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Date: 2007-05-17 03:32 pm (UTC)and a friend, yes an ex, who had agreed to be friends, i felt should have been there for me....but yes, this was wrong. I was very emotional,...and in my state, i would have been eased...
the thing is that we cannot always be an adult...becasue really, there may be no such thing, and it all depends on the situation, that is always best to know in advance, before we pass judgements...and call it patterns.
We all try, and need no reminders from others, most of the time.
Talking is best.
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Date: 2007-05-17 03:41 pm (UTC)Talking is only best when you listen, too. Gina has made it clear that she does not want to talk to you about this, or anything else right now. Regardless of what was said originally about wanting to stay friends, sometimes you cannot honor that desire if it is damaging your psyche and your life.
The incident in question really shouldn't be about your needs, and that you continue to see it only in that way is very telling. Maybe speaking to her would have eased your mind, but you have no right to force contact on her. You have other options available to you for help. You have family. You have other friends. You have access to therapy through a nationalised health system that people in the states envy. Maybe none of those would be your first or best choice, but they are OPTIONS and real ones. It's not all about you and what's best for you. It should be about what both of you want and need. That's what I meant about being an adult.
I expect that you'll rationalize this like all the rest by making yourself the victim, and I'm sorry for that, truly. You think you need to communicate with Gina. What you really need is someone neutral to talk to, or at the least, someone who is going to be on your side. Please avail yourself of the other friends you have and your family. Please stop trying to get something from Gina that she cannot give you. It's sad and it's hurting you both.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-05-17 02:11 pm (UTC)lol...'if it were me, i would already have called the police on your ass'.....is that how u treat people where you're from?
i think it's just best not to cut people off, personally.
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Date: 2007-05-17 02:12 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-05-17 04:27 pm (UTC)This isn't good for you and it's not good for Gina. You're not making yourself any friends; all you are doing is upsetting Gina. If you DID actually care about her, and not just yourself, you wouldn't continue doing something you know is upsetting her.
Sane and rational people, you don't cut off. People who behave like psycho stalkers? They are the ones that get cut off, and deservedly so.
Look at your behaviour and see which camp you fall into.
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Date: 2007-05-17 04:45 pm (UTC)Believe me, i won't be contacting Gina if it's upsetting her, but as i've not really heard much from her, i've no idea how upset she is.
I've got the direct hint tho, thanku.
i do actually care about Gina, more than anything.
You insult me and accuse me when you don't know me, and have only ever heard Gina and her side of our story. I have my own side. To everything about our relationship.
But you've never met me. I don't like people making quick judgements about me and my alleged behaviour. I think i've explained myself quite well, apologising in a lot of the right places.
I have not behaved like a psycho stalker...because if i had, all your comments would be valid. But no, becasue you're intruding.
I'm glad u have Gina's interests to hand.
And i have no opposing interests either.
So maybe one day we can be in the same camp.