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You can write the Lupin/Snape pairing in any number of ways. You can write them young or old, loyal or disloyal to the cause, light or dark. One can betray the other--there's so much canon evidence for that. You can even write hatesex between them. But the reason that I enjoy reading Snupin so much is that a lot of the stories are about the redemption of mature adults. In some ways we don't need to write the "hurt" part of the hurt/comfort story, because canon is full of hurt for these two characters. Instead we see them overcoming their inner demons and old psychological hurts, to reach out to each other.

I was thinking of that when I saw this incredible piece of Snupin fanart posted in the [livejournal.com profile] reversathon last night. It shows Remus and Severus, not in their beautiful youth, but as mature, grey haired, imperfect men in their 50s. It reminded me of the quintessential Snupin story that [livejournal.com profile] innerslytherin is still in the process of writing, the Redemption series. Two people who don't want to impose on anyone, two people with intense dignity, able to let their guard down for each other and really, for no one else.

If you missed the picture or the stories, go catch up with both now.

Date: 2006-08-15 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karasu-hime.livejournal.com
Applaud, Applaud,
So elequently put!!!

Date: 2006-08-15 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I love that pic so much. You're right, it really expresses a lot of beautiful emotions.

Date: 2006-08-15 10:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-08-16 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maggiehoneybite.livejournal.com
Hear, hear! Yes, that's a lovely piece of fanart. And I simply adore stories where Severus and Remus are old, imperfect and tired men who finally find a way to enjoy that little bit of happiness they so deserve.

Off to write my Snupin.

Date: 2006-08-16 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timetiger.livejournal.com
Thanks for pointing to that wonderful picture! Now I'm going to settle in with the Redemption series.

Date: 2006-08-16 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] islandsmoke.livejournal.com
That pic is amazing - thank you for pointing it out. And I agree on the Snupin. Yeah.

Date: 2006-08-16 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inyri-jax.livejournal.com
Oh man ... I can't see the art. It's just a red x. *sad sigh*

Date: 2006-08-16 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixychelle.livejournal.com
In some ways we don't need to write the "hurt" part of the hurt/comfort story, because canon is full of hurt for these two characters.

Oh, my. I think you've just explained something that I've never really been able to articulate -- why I (almost) exclusively prefer happy-ending fics in such an angst-ridden pairing. Unhappy endings tend to leave me feeling like the fic is unfinished, in a way that, say, a fic with an ambiguous but hopeful ending doesn't. (And in a way that pure angst in other pairings/fandoms/original works doesn't.) I'm betting that's why; I'm reading it like a a H/C fic without the comfort part. :( This would also explain why I'm perfectly happy with pure fluff in the pairing, when it tends to make some of the other shippers sick.

I knew I liked H/C, but now I must embrace the fact that I am actually a H/C junkie. *sigh*

Date: 2006-08-16 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_lore/
Thinking about it, I think the way I ship is for the end result - what do I want to ultimately see happen. Hermione/Ron may be canon, but, to me, Hermione's temperament and intelligence is better suited to Harry and his to Hermione, which is why I will always enjoy a good post-book-7 H/Hr.

When I was faced with actually having to think about Snape and who he might best be paired with, I considered all the characters in the series equally. I knew it had to be someone with enough characterization to not be a Sue, which threw out 90% of the characters in the books. Then I threw out under-age characters because my mind doesn't usually work that way, and significantly older characters for the same reason. And then, finally, no bad guys or dead people because I wanted Snape to be good and have someone after the war.

Thinking about the criteria I used, I realized that I like it when couples compliment each other - when they can be supportive and understanding of everything the other has been through. Shared history is very important to me. It's why I shipped Mulder/Scully way back when it was uncool to ship them, and why I kinda like it when Action Hero gets his Action Girl in movies.

There really is no one who can possibly understand and appreciate Snape the way Lupin could and vice versa. And, with Sirius gone and Tonks becoming a wet noodle, I don't see a better match for Lupin, either. Whether she meant it or not, by my shipping standards, Rowling made Snape and Lupin for each other.

Which is why I also appreciate so much fics like the Redemption series and McKay's Spark, and TheTreacleTart's Evolution. Snape and Lupin are each other's comfort - each other's reward for a lifetime of pain. Them getting together after all is said and done is the comfort to me, while all the canon that came before is the hurt.

love, lore

Date: 2006-08-20 10:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] innerslytherin
LOL - you recced me and I didn't even know! Now I feel even worse! (See, I should just defriend the crazy music communities so I don't have to remember to add people to filters. Grah.)

In some ways we don't need to write the "hurt" part of the hurt/comfort story, because canon is full of hurt for these two characters.

This is what draws me most to Lupin/Snape, I think. I love the two characters, and canon IS so full of hurt for them. I want them to be happy. I want them to find some measure of comfort amidst the cruelty of what war and life have done to them. And it makes so much sense for them to find it together.

That art is fabulous! I just keep looking at it and I love the expression on Severus' face. (And I love their feet, too. Hee) I love that Severus can find such joy with Remus.

Mmmmm. *is in happy place*

Date: 2006-08-20 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Doesn't it fit with your story just perfectly? I thought it did.

Date: 2006-08-20 10:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] innerslytherin
Hee! It really could be my Redemption boys! Mmmm. *feels inspired to run off and work more on next installment...* ^_~

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