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No, this isn't about his guilt, or innocence. It's not about his loyalties, and it's not about his teaching style.

This is about Snape's virility.

The other night, I was IMing with [livejournal.com profile] rexluscus when I had the thought that maybe overactive sebaceous glands are related to testosterone.

I googled, and this seems to be the consensus. The production of sebum, the stuff that makes your hair greasy, is regulated by testosterone.

What else does testosterone do? It makes Snape the guy we know from fanon. I checked out Wikipedia article on testosterone which had a systematic list of its effects on humans.

In canon, Snape has greasy hair and a voice that is "silky" or "waspish." Movie!Snape has Alan Rickman's glorious baritone. Most of us fan fic writers have grabbed that deep voice for our characterizations. Well, testosterone thickens the vocal cords and makes the voice deep.

Canon!Snape has a very thin, almost gaunt face. i didn't realize that this was a side effect of testosterone in the body, which thins the subcutaneous fat in the face. Who knew? He should also have a prominent adam's apple.

In canon, Snape has an explosive temper. (This is less true in the movies, unfortunately.) Testosterone has effects on aggression. Canon!Snape is also spying while teaching a full course load (and perhaps doing a few other things on the side, we don't know!) Testosterone has effects on energy.

In fanon, we give Snape a massive schlong. If he's got this much testosterone in his system, that makes sense! It also makes sense that he has a very strong sex drive. Both are part of the high-testosterone profile. He should also have a lot of body hair.

Of course he could have all sorts of unpleasant side effects not mentioned in canon, like zits and hair on his back, and male-pattern baldness. We know he's not going bald, because if he were Harry would mention it. I have always supposed that he doesn't have zits because he's a potions wiz. (wiz, get it? ehhhh.)

So when you write a Snape characterization, it actually does matter why his hair is greasy. If it's overactive sebaceous glands, it might make a difference in a lot of other areas than just his head.

No wonder we want to pair him off with practically everyone we can!
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Date: 2006-09-06 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rexluscus.livejournal.com
He should also have a lot of body hair.

HURRAY! I am vindicated!!!

Date: 2006-09-06 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Nice use of an icon, dudette.

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Date: 2006-09-06 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesyeuxverts00.livejournal.com
Haha, this is very funny and sounds quite convincing. I never thought about it that way! :)

Date: 2006-09-06 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
That's what I like, to be both amusing and persuasive!

Date: 2006-09-06 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilacsigil.livejournal.com
Very interesting! I have PCOS (poly-cystic ovarian syndrome) involving an excess of estrogen - gives me silky hair, great skin, a girly voice, very little body hair and a plenty of fat, especially on the hips. It's fascinating to think about the complete opposite - and makes much sense.

Date: 2006-09-06 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emily-anne.livejournal.com
How the hell have you managed that?! Most women with PCOS - myself included - have elevated testosterone levels, excess body hair and crap skin. I'm lucky that my symptoms are pretty mild so I can control them with waxing, dousing my face in tea tree oil every day, and eating sensibly to keep my weight down. Some women with extreme symptoms suffer from obesity, painful acne cysts and thinning hair on the head to go along with the excess hair everywhere else.

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Date: 2006-09-06 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleeperawakes.livejournal.com
Wow! That is fascinating! The extra testosterone enhances the libido. Oooo!!!
I need to go read some Snape fanfiction. ;-)

Date: 2006-09-06 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Yes! See, he's greasy (and a little smelly!) but horny, and he should have a large penis, if all of this stuff lines up...

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Date: 2006-09-06 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nefyr.livejournal.com
SNAPE/BODY HAIR OTP.

Date: 2006-09-06 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Yes, I agree! Though you know, also--Snape/Snape's large penis=OTP...

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Date: 2006-09-06 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emily-anne.livejournal.com
Yay, finally a reason for people to keep the greasy hair! And I don't think I've ever read a fic which had a Snape with lots of body hair, but now I really want one!

Date: 2006-09-06 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
From now on, body hair descriptions will figure prominently in my fic. Oh, wait, they already do.

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Date: 2006-09-06 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] painless-j.livejournal.com
Oh lol

It's an ultimately cheering morning post, especially paired up with [livejournal.com profile] aubrem's Raskolnikov!Snape :)

Date: 2006-09-06 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Glad you liked--and thanks for pointing me toward [livejournal.com profile] aubrem's insight. Insight? Theory. Theory? Conjecture? All right, i admit, i can't see why Snape is like Raskolnikov. Unless Raskolnikov was also a hairy, horny, grumpy bastard.

Date: 2006-09-06 08:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melusinahp.livejournal.com
Lol. Can't argue with any of that. :)

Date: 2006-09-06 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
I'm sure someone who actually knows something about hormones could...but who wants to? I have finally come up with the ultimate justification for the "Snape has a large penis" convention in fandom!

Date: 2006-09-06 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
Best explanation EVER!

And regarding the male pattern baldness...Canon!Snape's only in his mid-to-late thirties, which is very young for a wizard. I'll bet that hairline's going to be receding when he's fifty!

(what do you mean he won't still be alive when he's fifty? In *my* stories he will be. *g*)

Date: 2006-09-06 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
My dad was bald by age 22 or 23. I think if Snape is going to start losing hair, with all the rest of the testosterone stuff, it would have started by now.

Though it could be magic.

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Date: 2006-09-06 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veradee.livejournal.com
What an interesting theory.

Of course he could have all sorts of unpleasant side effects not mentioned in canon, like zits and hair on his back, and male-pattern baldness.

Well, there's always something like artistic freedom. Despite having researched these details, no one can force you to use them in a story. ;)

Date: 2006-09-06 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleeperawakes.livejournal.com
Plus, he is a potions master and a wizard. Like she said above, he could probably whip up something to control the acne and thinning hair problems.

And just as you say, we have our own imaginations. >:-}-*

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Date: 2006-09-06 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maggiehoneybite.livejournal.com
Oooh, I like this theory!

Date: 2006-09-06 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Thanks! Me, too. Though people are poking holes in the reasons why he doesn't have big zits.

Maybe he used to have them and is over that...

Date: 2006-09-06 01:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] innerslytherin
Mmm, Remus and I both like this theory. ^_~ And it all makes sense. *G*

Date: 2006-09-06 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Yes, Remus would like this theory the best of all of Severus' sexual partners. Okay, yeah, he's a size queen, yeah, he appreciates the libido. But also, as a lycanthrope, he really likes the extra smelliness of the extra sebum and body hair. Sometimes he even asks Severus not to take his customary two showers a day.

(I might have put a little too much thought into this.)

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Date: 2006-09-06 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magnetic-pole.livejournal.com
The other night, I was IMing with rexluscus when I had the thought that maybe overactive sebaceous glands are related to testosterone.

Ah, it's good to be back home and back online. *smile*

I go for a psychological explanation: Snape=complicated, complicated=interesting, interesting=sexy. But the physiological explanation has its own kind of logic....

Maggie

Date: 2006-09-06 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
I don't know if being hairy and grumpy and a little naturally stinky and oily make him sexy. Perhaps it is his complications that make him attractive, not his sebaceousness. Though I do like the whole slash convention of Snape's enormous penis...

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Date: 2006-09-06 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] snegurochka_lee
LOL. You win! This is awesome. ♥

Date: 2006-09-06 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Thanks! I think it makes a lot of sense with canon. Though I'm surprised that Severus doesn't also have spots...

Date: 2006-09-06 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-senjou.livejournal.com
OMG that is just genius!! I was laughing so hard all through that and also nodding my head in agreement (even if I tend to make him freakishly hairless - maybe its more of those potions).

brilliant XD

Date: 2006-09-06 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Yes, i am on a campaign to give Snape back his body hair, poor fellow.

Date: 2006-09-06 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rakina.livejournal.com
Oh well done!
You've proved, in this case, that fanon=canon. QED.
*squee*

Date: 2006-09-06 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
See, I've had this fear that JKR, in her ongoing quest to debunk fan fiction, would assert in book7 that Snape did everything he did because he was insecure about having a small penis. That is, since we are all so sure he has a monster in his pants. Now, if she wants to do that, she has to make the greasy hair from some kind of wizarding Brylcreem instead of from his overactive sebaceous glands.

Maybe she's planning to give him zits and back hair instead.

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Date: 2006-09-06 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] professorsnotes.livejournal.com
I am proud to say, I have always kept Snape's hair in my fic greasy. ;)

Date: 2006-09-06 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Good for you! Now you can feel vindicated about giving him a hairy chest, a deep voice and a reactive temperament. (And a big penis, don't forget that part...)

Date: 2006-09-06 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dementordelta.livejournal.com
Okay, that's just brilliant! *ponders*

Date: 2006-09-06 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Hee! Thanks!

I feel like Dr. Science over here.

Date: 2006-09-06 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revivified.livejournal.com
This is the most sensible but also most amusing commentaries on Snape's character that I've ever read on LiveJournal. You are ingenious. :)

Date: 2006-09-06 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
I like how you gave me this great comment using an icon with a photo of JKR, so that it looks like SHE is saying I'm right.

(I'm sure she would not!)

Thanks! I guess it's easier to be sensible about Snape when one isn't arguing about whether he's good or evil!

Date: 2006-09-06 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noorie.livejournal.com
hee! thanks for the giggle!
He should also have a lot of body hair.
not really fanon characterization (quite the opposite), but i guess either he's got a potion for that too or it's why he's always covered up to his wrists and ankles...

Date: 2006-09-06 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
I hope that a lot of people will see this and revise their idea of Snape's hirsuteness.

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Date: 2006-09-07 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaeche.livejournal.com
Other fanon characteristics supported by Testosterone!Snape

Smoking and drinking: On the other hand, men at higher levels were 25% more likely to report one or more injuries, 32% more likely to imbibe 5 or more drinks in a single day and 151% more likely to smoke. See http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=51013. I always pictured Snape as a chainsmoker.

Date: 2006-09-07 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
this is a good point. A lot of people in fandom write him as a smoker. There is are some excellent images of Snape smoking in the opening panels of [livejournal.com profile] sigune's WIP Vengeance is Bitter. I see Snape as a very grumpy ex-smoker.

I have also read many many fics in which he likes to drink. The problem with that is, drinking alcohol is a really strong part of British culture. I've written at least two fics in which he isn't much of a drinker, and I now regret that choice!

Date: 2006-09-07 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myfatbudgie.livejournal.com
1. Yes, it makes sense. The alchemical stories which JKR plundered to build Snape's character deal with: 1. Mars/Iron 2. The Alchemist 3. The Prince.

Mars is the most masculine of planets, so it makes sense he'd have a high testosterone level.

2. The other reason I've heard given for his greasiness that I REALLY love is that Snape is a spider animagus, and all spiders are greasy so that they won't stick to their webs.

Date: 2006-09-07 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
heh. I think it's funny that the testosterone theory, which is so real world, keeps reminding everyone of the spider animagus theory. I guess that says something about the combination of real world and fantasy in the HP characterizations, like Harry's eyeglasses, Hermione's hair, and Eloise Midgen's acne.

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Date: 2006-09-07 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iulia_linnea.livejournal.com
Best. Rationalization. Meta. Ever!

Date: 2006-09-07 11:17 am (UTC)

Date: 2006-09-07 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aramintasnape.livejournal.com
Hee! What a wonderful theory :)

Here via [livejournal.com profile] daily_snitch by the way.

Date: 2006-09-07 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Thanks! You can learn a lot from participating in fandom. So far I've researched British rugby, Manchester's gay neighborhood, the hotels of Trieste, how to make hashish, tantric sex practices, the actual names of 1980s hairstyles, the recording history of several folksongs, and now, the role of testosterone in the body. If you read the comments you can learn even more about it, a lot of people had corrections and suggestions...

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Date: 2006-12-23 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slash-kitten.livejournal.com
I'll have to send this to my best friend... not only is she in love with Snape, but also with excessive body hair. She's gonna wet her pants.


:D
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