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What do you think?

When you write Snape, does he use contractions, or not?

Do you ever write him speaking Northern? Or only standard formal Queen's English?

Does he smirk an awful lot? Scowl? Glower? Glare? Snap? Snort? Does he speak softly or silkily?

Very controlled, or loses his temper frequently?

Talk to me about canon, fanon and your pet peeves.

Date: 2006-10-24 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inyri-jax.livejournal.com
the only peeve I really have about Snape is when he "drawls". The man does NOT drawl. He doesn't speak sloppily. At all. Ever.

Other than that, I'm pretty ok with a lot of it.

Date: 2006-10-24 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Is "drawl" sloppy? I thought it just meant prolonged vowels. I don't know whether long vowels or short vowels sound more cultured to British ears. I might describe the BBC announcers' pronounciation of PM Tony Bleaaaaaah as a drawl.

In the States, the Southern accent is described as drawl because of the long vowels, not because of any dropped consonants. (Or am I the only one who thinks that it's dropped consonants that sound sloppy?)

I can see that if I get responses to this I'm going to be looking up a lot of words for connotative force!

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Date: 2006-10-24 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celandineb.livejournal.com
My Snape rarely uses contractions, and pretty much sticks with formal Queen's English (in part b/c I am not competent to write a northern dialect with any sort of accuracy). He smirks a lot, especially at Harry, but also scowls and snorts. Generally he controls his temper because he is all about control. He is also very fond of all sorts of kinky sex. He does have softer emotions but he's not good at recognizing them, much less articulating them, although he may express them indirectly through physical/sexual means.

Pet peeves? Really fluffy Snape, pregnant Snape *shudders*, entirely submissive Snape, Snape allowing anyone to call him "Sev."

My opinions only and YMMV.

Date: 2006-10-24 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Well, I asked because I want to know! In canon he is both emotionally controlled and blank-faced, and has outrageous temper tantrums. It's hard to know which to make dominant in a fic.

The contractions: i don't know whether he uses them in canon or not. I'm not sure that formality in English requires the abjuration of contractions. I have seen Snape with and without them in fanon. i have the books here but I would have to look at everywhere that he appears to see if he ever says can't or won't.

I like the things people do with his sexuality in fan fics. I can see him either very kinky or very repressed, really adept or really awkward sexually. I don't have a problem with any of those. It's more the stuff that makes people go "argh, out of character!" that i want to know about. (this is after a full year of writing Snape in nearly every story! Kind of late, eh?)

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Date: 2006-10-24 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
When you write Snape, does he use contractions, or not?

Absolutely yes. No contractions is for people who are learning English as a second language or who are Data. :)

Do you ever write him speaking Northern? Or only standard formal Queen's English?

I've had him speaking in a kind of Yorkshire manner, but only at times when he's around his old home, and either with people who knew him when he was a boy or with whom he feels particularly comfortable. I suspect he thought it was important to get rid of his childhood accent, and so rarely speaks that way as an adult.

Does he smirk an awful lot? Scowl? Glower? Glare? Snap? Snort? Does he speak softly or silkily?

LOL. I just wrote commentfic for [livejournal.com profile] thetreacletart (for this post (http://thetreacletart.livejournal.com/331857.html)) and I think I used almost all those words. :)

Very controlled, or loses his temper frequently?

Nasty, but usually fairly controlled. Loses his temper when he's particularly emotionally invested in something and he thinks it's being snatched away from him (like the Order of Merlin in POA)

Talk to me about canon, fanon and your pet peeves.

The whole Snape Manor thing is pretty much a moot point now (which pleases me). My personal feeling is that Snape is in robes all the time and not Muggle clothes unless he has to be in the Muggle world for some reason, but I understand why some people can't break free from the lure of the movie clothes.

I think my biggest...hmm...not 'peeve,' really, but the way I diverge most sharply from fanon is that I don't think Snape's any kind of an intellectual. I think he's clever and he's almost certainly a genius where potions and the dark arts are concerned, but I doubt very seriously he knows much of anything about literature or wine or travel (I suspect he hasn't even been outside of England). He has enough on his plate without turning himself into some kind of Renaissance man. :)

Date: 2006-10-24 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Ruh roh. I am a big fan of highly-cultured Snape. I think it goes with my sense of his self-education and getting rid of the accent. Not that he's a real intellectual. I think he knows whatever he thinks a cultured person should know to pass, and that might be a lot of neat stuff. Which things I make him know in a given fic depend on how i'm conceiving the relationship of the wizarding to the muggle world in that fic.

I'm totally down with the "got rid of his accent" idea. I love that.

I thought the movie clothes were meant to be robes? That is, that all the weird Victorian garments are wizarding robes.


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Date: 2006-10-24 04:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
Of course Snape uses contractions! Everyone does. But there shouldn't be too many :).

I suppose I have two registers for Snape, and I would actually like to have three, only I don't master the third. In canon, Snape's speech is mostly rather formal (though he doesn't seem to have Malfoy's upper-class drawl; like [livejournal.com profile] inyri_jax, it annoys me to see Snape's speech described as drawling. If it was, the narrator would have said so, because they qualify Malfoy's speech as such all the time); this would be what he uses in my fics when speaking in public, in the classroom, on formal occasions, or when talking to strangers. It's a front he keeps up. When he is with close friends, or less controlled, I loosen up his speech and even let him use the occasional slang word or very informal speech (and swearwords) - I think that's justified by the way Snape lapses from good manners in canon like that time when he spits after the Quidditch match in PS. Finally, I think it probable that when he is very, very relaxed, or conversely very, very angry, Yorkshire dialect might creep in. But I would only make a fool of myself trying to write that, so I don't.

Er - yep, my Snape glares, glowers, scowls, smirks, sneers, snaps, snarls, snorts, and he speaks softly especially when he is very angry. I try to avoid silky, because somehow that seems even more 'worn' than all the others :). Plus, it seems to be used in fandom rather often to imply something attractive, which I don't think it does in canon and which I'd rather avoid.

I read canon as implying that Snape is very controlled, but only with the greatest of efforts, and that there are some buttons that, when prodded, lead to terrible outbursts. So that's how I try to write him :).

Date: 2006-10-24 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
So you think drawl is a class marker of gentry/aristocracy, and therefore Snape wouldn't use it? That's helpful.

I would also like him to use Yorkshire or Lancashire dialect when upset, but 1. I also can't manage it and 2. He doesn't do that in canon. I have had some creep into his internal monologue in a fic. I think it wasn't successful.

Isn't Snape's speech attractive, even in canon? Harry always notices that he speaks very softly and everyone listens to him, and he makes these fantastic rhetorically-appealing speeches. I have the impression that this is the reason they cast Rickman in the movies. (Though I've also speculated that JKR has made Snape's speech even more soft, sibilant and deceptively seductive since Rickman. Who knows?)

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Date: 2006-10-24 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazy-neutrino.livejournal.com
Contractions as appropriate. I think an awful lot of how Snape speaks is deliberate, and done for effect. I envisage him speaking Queen's English and I can't think of a counterexample in the books.

As for the smirking etc, they're all good. Except when they're over-used. And he loses his temper rarely - about once every three books, I think, so I'd expect that kind of ratio in fanfic!

Date: 2006-10-24 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
So you think he shouldn't lose his temper too often. But he is kind of grouchy in a low-level way all the time.

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Date: 2006-10-24 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] snegurochka_lee
Heh. You already know what I think about much of this. ;)

Contractions... well, it's up to the writer, I suppose. But in canon? Never. Thus, I try never to use them in Snape's speech in fanfic, either.

Then again, that makes me an enormous hyopcrite, because Lupin doesn't use many contractions in canon either, yet I write him as speaking much more casually in fanfic. *shrug* I'm a stickler for formal Snape speech, though. That's what makes him sound like Snape in my book. I suppose it depends who he is talking to, and against whom you are trying to establish his character. For example, when I write Snape/Lupin I tend to write Snape's speech as more formal, and Lupin's as more casual - just to better show the differences in their character. But if I were writing a scene with Snape and Dumbledore, say, or Snape and Lucius, I'd probably have both of them speaking more formally, and use mannerisms other than speech patterns to differentiate them.

As for accents, I wouldn't try to write one unless you know yourself how it should sound. I believe [livejournal.com profile] junediamanti has a story about Snape going from Spinners End accent to Hogwarts accent, based on her personal knowledge of northern accents. (I've not read it and so can't link, but I remember hearing a lot of positive buzz about it a few months back).

But for me, what he says is much more important for establishing a credible Snape than how he says it.

Does he smirk an awful lot? Scowl? Glower? Glare? Snap? Snort? Does he speak softly or silkily?

Sure, all of the above. Depends on context. He does all of those things in canon at various moments.

Very controlled, or loses his temper frequently?

Again, we've seen both in canon. I would argue that he's controlled more often than he loses his temper, but it's up to you. A case can be made for both. But a Snape who is continually flying off the handle in a story will probably make me squint a bit, unless Sirius Black is around him a lot to be provoking that. ;)

It all comes down to what you want to write, though, and you should have confidence in your Snape! You've read the books, right? (If it's been awhile, go back and reread even a few passages, to get your sense of him again). You'll never please all fanon versions of him, and I'm worried you're placing too much stock in what others think (if this is about what I think it's about). :) Good luck.

Date: 2006-10-24 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
I believe [info]junediamanti has a story about Snape going from Spinners End accent to Hogwarts accent, based on her personal knowledge of northern accents. (I've not read it and so can't link, but I remember hearing a lot of positive buzz about it a few months back).

Yes, it was a wonderful story. It's here, if you want to read it. I think it's a very IC Snape.

Heh. You already know what I think about much of this. ;)

Yes, I'm asking this question because I had SIX beta-readers for that story, and each has her own idea of how Snape should and shouldn't talk! I've never done this to myself before! I've written almost exclusively Snape stories for a year, with varying degrees of success in the characterization.

I do feel a lot better about that story, by the way. It might never please me completely, but it's better. I've learned a lot about writing from this experience, which is what I'm here to do.

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Date: 2006-10-24 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rexluscus.livejournal.com
My big struggle (sort of in line with what Beth was saying) is whether to make him an intellectual or not. Strictly speaking, I don't think he is - what he knows, he knows because he thinks it's going to be useful for him. But as you well know, I am in love with polyglot!Snape and wellreadliberalarts!Snape. That's where he starts to turn into my Snapey Sue. ;-D

On the other hand, he's pretty sharp, so he could know quite a lot without being a committed intellectual, per se. You know, I think it would be really great to have a story in which his autodidacticism (is that a word?) is showing, so to speak. Where he tries to front it as a learned person among people who really ARE learned, and fails. Hm... *adds to plot bunny list*

As for the cool-and-collected vs. hissyfit!Snape...I don't know if this bears up under canon evidence, but I gravitate toward characterizations of Snape in which he's just barely holding it together. In my world, he's got that cold, sour-faced mask on all the time because otherwise he'd be a gelatinous, invertibrate column of impotent rage. ;-D

Date: 2006-10-24 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
You know, I think it would be really great to have a story in which his autodidacticism (is that a word?) is showing, so to speak. Where he tries to front it as a learned person among people who really ARE learned, and fails. Hm... *adds to plot bunny list*

Oooh.

Except---wait. In my experience, autodidacts generally know more than people who are supposedly really learned. It's one of the reasons that some homeschooled kids do so well.

Though I could see a story in which Snape, at Hogwarts or even as late as 19 or 20, finally gets to attempt to pronounce words he's only read. That would totally happen to him. He would go out in the alley and have a tantrum afterward.

(i love the image of Snape melting down to angry jelly.)

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Date: 2006-10-24 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tripperfunster.livejournal.com
heeheehee! I love these types of threads. I'm certainly not trying to slam anyone here ('cause God knows yer all smarter than meee) but I think canon!Snape vs. Fanon!Snape is sort of a moot point. If people are going to get all anal about canon (and many of them do) the READ THE FREAKIN' BOOKS! The only canon stuff is in the actual novels. Everything else is fanon, really.

Not that I don't have my fic pet peeves! I personally don't think Snape would be terribly kinky. If you want to get all 'anal' about it, I doubt he'd be gay either. BUT WHERE'S THE FUN IN THAT?? :D

Now, keep in mind, that most of my art and fics are squick and/or crack, so I don't really have a leg to stand on, do I? If a fic is really well written, I can 'swallow' just about anything the author throws at me. DementorDelta writes a waaay more romantic Snape that I would ever imagine him, yet I will eat her fics up with a spork!

As for your stuff, Schem, Snape would NEVER take part in an orgy that featured Lupin, some Weasleys and Neville, but I had great fun reading that!

Okay, I guess I don't have a point here....bla bla bla. Keep talking amongst yourselves!!

Date: 2006-10-24 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Not that I don't have my fic pet peeves! I personally don't think Snape would be terribly kinky. If you want to get all 'anal' about it, I doubt he'd be gay either. BUT WHERE'S THE FUN IN THAT?? :D

Bwa ha haha!

exactly.

You so cute.

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Date: 2006-10-24 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drusillas-rain.livejournal.com
When I write him, he ends up mentally rolling his eyes a lot. I usually have to go back and remove most of those.

I agree with [livejournal.com profile] inyri_jax - he speaks properly, but he may use contractions when appropriate.

It's funny, I was actually thinking about his characterization this morning on my way to work. I came to the conclusion that he's a very passionate person, especially considering his violent temper. He just doesn't show Harry or his students that side of himself.

Except, now that I've read through some of the other comments I'm convinced that the fic I'm writing for [livejournal.com profile] snupin_santa is horribly OOC O_o

Date: 2006-10-24 11:38 pm (UTC)
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He uses contractions, he'd probably speak Northern when he was angry if I could do a creditable Northern accent, he smirks a lot when he's in a good mood and he speaks more and more quietly the angrier he gets. Right before he loses it, his voice has dropped to a whisper.

He spends a lot of time annoyed about things, or quietly angry, but he usually controls it to a dull glower.

My pet peeve? Weepy Severus. I don't buy him crying at the drop of a hat unless he's under the age of 12. I think he channels his sadness into anger.

Date: 2006-10-25 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
The thing about the Weepy Severus thing? I agree...except that the name Snivellus had to come from somewhere, you know? Of course, knowing kids, he might have cried once during his first year and just had the misfortune to be seen by James and/or Sirius.

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Date: 2006-10-25 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] summerborn.livejournal.com
A very interesting thread! I go for the contractions unless he's on trial (figuratively or literally), I don't know what Northern is supposed to be like (o_O), plenty of smirking/other fun verbs depending on the situation - I'm particularly fond of a well-placed "snap". And I second the voice-going-quiet-before-the-storm. :D

Canon Snape is great, but fanon Snape is where the fun is. The hardest thing for me to read in fics is the whole Lord Snape and Snape Hall thing - I think it's because I came to fandom after HBP was already out, and had read it before really getting into fanfics. There was an otherwise well-enough-written fic that featured an aristocratic school-age Snape with expensive robes who visited the local Muggle church when he was home on holiday. I could take all of that, barely, but when he broke into song in front of other people I had to stop reading.

Date: 2006-10-25 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
I also came to fan fiction after HBP and find the Snape as pureblood snob stories kind of jarring. But they are canonical, in a way. Before HBP, would you have thought that Snape was not a pureblood? When the password to get into Slytherin in book 2 was "pureblood"? Sometimes JKR can be just sooooo sneaky that way.

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Date: 2006-10-25 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dbassassin.livejournal.com
Here from the d_s. Hmmm ... in my fics ...

When you write Snape, does he use contractions, or not?
Yes, though I have him speak less formally when with his peers than when addressing the dunderheads students.

Do you ever write him speaking Northern? Or only standard formal Queen's English?
Standard Britglish (or as close as this Canadian can get, I suppose). I have enough problem with standard English; I can't imagine trying to get away with a regional accent. Besides, I think the accent would have been the first aspect of his past that Snape would have strived to rid himself of. Accents are such social markers in Britain, and the accent he would have been born with wouldn't have been congruent with who he wanted to be, I think.

Does he smirk an awful lot? Scowl? Glower? Glare? Snap? Snort? Does he speak softly or silkily?
I wrote to a friend once that all the best words to describe Snape start with 'S': slink, snort, smirk, scowl, slouch, spit, scuff, slither, snarl, spite ... I could go on. And yes, I have him do all of the above.

Very controlled, or loses his temper frequently?
I think Snape is very tightly wound. For him, in certain circumstances letting his guard down even a tiny bit can be fatal; this, combined with his generally high-strung nature makes him a bit of tempermental time bomb, I think. He has to keep things clamped down so tightly most of the time that when he's in one of the environments where he can let go a bit, he can come unglued pretty quickly, especially if one of his hot buttons get pushed. I write him mostly as a teenager, so he's less controlled than he would be if I were writing him as an adult.

Talk to me about canon, fanon and your pet peeves.
Most of my canon pet peeves have nothing to do with Snape. As to fanon, oh, let's see ... smoopy!Snape, SexGod!Snape, romantic-in-any-kind-of-way!Snape, brilliant-well-read-intellectual!Snape, tragically-misunderstood-hero!Snape, and my least fave: wine-connoisseur!Snape (don't know why this one annoys me so much).

Date: 2006-10-25 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adaptor.livejournal.com
Contractions (in my little world) are fine for conversations when he's tired, rushed, and/or around someone he trusts completely (like Dumbledore and... like Dumbledore). Also good if he's furious, but never if he's lecturing or putting up any sort of social wall.

(Sadly, I can't write Northern. Would that wishing made it so.)

Like Ms. Rolwing, I enjoy a good gl word for Snape. Glare, gleem, glower, gloat, glow, glean, glaze, glide, glint or gloss usually work a treat. And my version of Snape is very controlled because he's so frequently close to losing it.

Pet peeves: EmotionallyAvailableSnape! CryingSnape! HisHairOnlyLooksGreasySnape! Especially that last one. I'd rather he be crying over his childhood and hugging a stuffed teady-bat than have secretly good-looking hair.

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Date: 2006-10-25 07:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sylvanawood.livejournal.com
These are interesting questions and interesting answers.

When you write Snape, does he use contractions, or not?
I noticed that he uses them in canon, and thus, he uses them in my fics, too. Unless he wants to emphasise something, then he doesn't.

Do you ever write him speaking Northern? Or only standard formal Queen's English?

I'm not a native speaker, slipping in accents would be preposterous. I had him slip in one Yorkshire word once when he was very tired. But unless you really can do it well, I don't think it's worth the effort. We don't really know if he had to get rid of an accent, since we don't know how Eileen raised him. She may have made a point to teach him 'Queen's English'. 'Muggle expressions' seem to come naturally, though. He used the term 'matchbox' in CoS, and we learned in GoF how little wizards know about matches.

The way he speaks, and moves, somewhat resembles the way both, Voldemort and Malfoy, do. I think he may have imitated Lucius when he was young, and Voldemort, when he was older. I think Voldemort, with his background, may have imitated some 'posh' wizards as well, when he was young. But then there's the theory that Lucius is a 'nouveau riche'... so I'm not sure. Voldemort also moves dramatically, speaks softly, hisses, smirks, speaks coldly etc.

One of my pet peeves is when fanon makes him speak like a character from a Dickens or Austen novel. He doesn't speak like that in canon.


Does he smirk an awful lot? Scowl? Glower? Glare? Snap? Snort? Does he speak softly or silkily?

All of it, except for the snort. Like Sigune, I don't find speaking silkily attractive. I think he does it when he's not honest, tries to get someone in trouble, tries to hide something and so on. He speaks softly often.


Very controlled, or loses his temper frequently?

Like someone above said, very controlled most of the time. At least after GOF. I think he changed slighlty after he knew that V. was back. His anger is colder, more controlled. The Shrieking Shack scene with spittle flying and temper tantrums is one aspect of his temper: childish, emotional, uncontrolled. The kind of outburst after he caught Harry in the Pensieve is another aspect: white face, shouting and threatening. Deep and cold anger, but somewhat controlled.


Date: 2006-10-25 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoicstella.livejournal.com
I'm late enough to the party not to have much to add, but I'm throwing my hat in the ring anyway.

Thinking on Snape...

I have never once thought about whether he uses contractions or not, (I'm sure this is a sign of bad writing, and I shouldn't be admitting it) so I am certain my Snape does use them, as often as any of my characters would, dependant on the voice of the particular story. By the same token, I don't have nearly enough confidence to try to effect colloquialisms in dialogue... I'm much more concerned with what he is saying then how he is saying it. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

My Snape does snap, snarl and scowl. I don't see him is as completely controlled as much as emotionally challenged. That is, I think Snape channels all emotions into a form of anger. The Snape in my head doesn't know how to express envy, pride, jealousy, love, sadness, guilt, sorrow, etc any other way then by becoming angry. Feeling makes him angry at the person making him feel and angry at himself for feeling. Which is why I write him snappish and prone to losing his temper. There is so much trying his temper, and his patience.

Of course that isn't to say there isn't a level of control he must possess to be a spy, and to occlude from Voldemort, but I always thought that hiding things in plain sight was his trick. He has enough anger at all the people in his life that it is easy enough for him to appear to hate muggles, the Order and Harry Potter. He can offer up memories of hatred and anger enough in his mind without having to manufacture them.

As for pet peeves? I don't know. There are so many ways that his character can be interpreted. Most of what we get from canon is filtered through the mind of someone who hates him passionately, as long as an author can reason why Snape is acting the way they have written him, then it will probably ring with a sort of truth. I guess I get annoyed when he is overly romantic or overly cruel without any sort of explanation. Only because it doesn't fit with my interpretations of his character and therefore seems to come out of the blue. Different interpretations of characters is kind of what I'm reading fanfiction for. I like all the different Snapes, even the one's that don't strike me as particularly snapeish.

Date: 2006-10-25 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cousin-giry.livejournal.com
When you write Snape, does he use contractions, or not?

He uses contractions most of the time except when he needs to clarify something to somebody really slow-witted.

Do you ever write him speaking Northern? Or only standard formal Queen's English?

My Snape speaks Northern when he's startled, agitated or very relaxed. Otherwise it's Queen's English.

Does he smirk an awful lot? Scowl? Glower? Glare? Snap? Snort? Does he speak softly or silkily?

He snorts, and he speaks softly from time to time.

Very controlled, or loses his temper frequently?

Very controlled. Only relaxes when he feels secure. Imagine his headaches.

Talk to me about [...] your pet peeves.

My pet peeves: Fluffy!Snape, Mills & Boon!Snape and Rochester!Snape. Also: Silky hair!Snape, Bishounen!Snape and Secretly a Gryffindor!Snape. Me, I try to avoid all these in my own writing.

Date: 2006-10-25 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auctasinistra.livejournal.com
My Snape is always smirking. He snorts constantly, too. It's a real problem. If I take away his smirks I feel he's acting inappropriately.

Date: 2006-10-26 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mary-j-59.livejournal.com
Okay - I have to jump in here, though I am very new at fanfic and may also have interpreted this character all wrong (I don't think so, though).

Canon Snape uses contractions, Muggle terms, and (I believe) slang. He's a clear and effective speaker, usually, but he does NOT generally talk like a book. So my Snape uses contractions. I had him slipping into Yorkshire dialect very briefly, as a very young man, under stress. Possibly he would slip back into dialect under those circumstances - extreme stress or (more likely) fatigue, when with someone he trusted or when alone.

My Snape (I do try to write him as close to canon as I can) smirks, hisses, snorts (rarely), and gets very quiet when he is angry. He is driven by his emotions but doesn't analyze them much, if at all - instead, he tries (and fails) to repress them. There's a lot of pain under that stiff, buttoned-up appearance, and, like Harry, Snape supresses his pain, fear and grief. It gets expressed as anger, in spite of his attempts at control. Thus the explosions.

I wasn't surprised at all that he was a half-blood, and it was pretty obvous that he was working-class - I never bought the Snape manor cliche, and only saw it done well once. That would have to be a pet peeve. However, I also don't like 'intellectual' Snape, even though he's obviously both bright and imaginative. Reasons - this is a working-class lad who's clawed his way upward and has had a lot to handle. He hasn't had either the time or the energy to become truly cultured, even though I think he does have the interest. But he's a pragmatist. No time for mere beauty (chamber music and the like - even though I think he can sing, and sing well. But he isn't trained; why would he be?). Therefore, I get annoyed with fics which postulate teen Snape as generally well informed and talking like an encyclopedia. I don't believe it. I just don't. (even though I've got a scene -cut out from "Those who live by the sword" - of Snape drawing an internal combustion engine for Dumbledore. But I CUT that scene!)

Sorry - I'm burbling. Interesting questions!

Date: 2006-10-26 05:18 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I don't write, so can't really answer most of your questions, but there is one thing that bugs me in fanfiction Snape characterisations: 'snarky'.

What are people doing putting this word into the mouths of non-dialectal English characters? It's not standard English, and it sounds incredibly American.

Date: 2006-10-26 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Isn't the word originally from "The Hunting of the Snark" by Lewis Carroll? It's not especially American, but it is a recent neologism. I understand the temptation to use it (because of the alliteration) but you're right that it's not particularly good writing.

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Date: 2006-10-26 05:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomneses.livejournal.com
I'm so late! I write teenage!Snape...just as a warning (It's a Snape/Lily fic)

When you write Snape, does he use contractions, or not?

Yeah, I use contractions for his character. I'm pretty sure he uses them in canon.

Do you ever write him speaking Northern? Or only standard formal Queen's English?

I've been planning to when he gets really angry but I'd need a little help from somebody who understands the dialect more than me.

Does he smirk an awful lot? Scowl? Glower? Glare? Snap? Snort? Does he speak softly or silkily?

Lots of scowling, glowering, glaring, snaping, and a bit of snorting. Smirking every once in a while but at the moment he isn't too fond of the other main character at the moment (Lily)

Very controlled, or loses his temper frequently?

I see him being more of a loose canon as a teenager but I still include very controlled temper and emotions with him.

Talk to me about canon, fanon and your pet peeves.

I hate when Snape is very handsome in fics. I don't see Snape as necessarily UGLY in canon but he is certainly no beauty; he is no Sirius Black! So when I see fics in which Snape's hair isn't really that greasy but it just looked like it due to the lighting,weather,position of the, WHATEVER...I get frustrated.

This is a Snape/Lily pet peeve but I become very frustrated when Snape falls for Lily at the drop of a pin! I support the idea of Snape having loved Lily but COME ON, WRITERS! Make it realistic!



Date: 2006-10-27 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
This is a Snape/Lily pet peeve but I become very frustrated when Snape falls for Lily at the drop of a pin! I support the idea of Snape having loved Lily but COME ON, WRITERS! Make it realistic!

It's funny how everyone, no matter what period or pairing they favor, thinks it would take a lot for Snape to admit his feelings.

Wow, I'm replying late >.>

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Date: 2006-10-26 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] islandsmoke.livejournal.com
Contractions? Some. Rather depends on the situation and the person to whom he's speaking. I think he uses his speech (contraction, vocabulary, enunciation, etc.) consciously rather than just letting words fall out of his mouth the way I tend to. Either that or I simply always hear him with Alan Rickman's voice.

I never try to write accents. Never. Can't do it and would look like idiot.

Smirk, snort, scowl? Sure. But never rolls his eyes. Of course, none of my characters do as I find it abhorrent and extremely rude. (So, Ron might... if I wrote Ron.)

I think Snape is about control so on the occasions when he does lose it, he really loses it.

Hate fluffy Snape - I think he feels deeply but communicates in (very few)actions rather than words. And the actions would be subtle, not banners and balloons.

Hate OOC Snape - fluffy, chatty, sensitive, demonstrative *shudders*

Don't like Mary Stu Snape, either.

Date: 2006-10-31 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athenakt.livejournal.com
Ach, let's see.

I write Snape as using formal language, so he rarely uses contractions. When he does, it might indicate stress or an uncontrolled reaction to something.

He smirks rather than smiles, and smirks rarely. He often scowls, glowers and glares among other things. When he speaks softly or silkily it's usually a good idea to slowly back away from an impending explosion.

Most frequently controls his emotions but can become a volcano otherwise.

Pet peeves: Reading someone writing Snape as smiling or (heaven forbid) grinning all of the time. Reading his dialog written as though he's a teenager if the plot doesn't have him actually becoming one. Reading through gift lists for birthday and holiday fics rather than seeing the emotion/significance of said birthday or holiday in the fic. Rather than being peeved at the writers, I'm of the hopes that they're teens that will improve as most people do with their writing given more time and experience...

Date: 2006-10-31 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Gifts! I want to talk about that sometime. It's a bad feature of mainstream romance novels that characters are sketched by their possessions. It's something that Salman Rushdie mentions in Haroun and the Sea of Stories. I think it's a tendency that influences fan fiction.

The thing is, I think I'm as guilty of it as anyone. i don't do that thing of having the birthday present stand instead of the emotional relation. Nor would I ever write one of those annoying fics in which Severus has never had a Christmas present and is so moved to receive one. But I have sketched out his appearance just with his muggle clothes.

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