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[livejournal.com profile] cruisedirector and I had a chat a few months ago, in which I asserted that even though I enjoyed fan fiction, I did not like romance novels. Oh no, of course not--just because most fan fic is almost transparently some genre related to romance, that didn't mean I could ever enjoy those awful novels that my mom and sister buy to read on airplanes.

But now the nefarious yet utterly delicious [livejournal.com profile] sscrewdriver has induced me with her feminine wiles (not to mention her artistic genius) to read Georgette Heyer. Knowing full well my weakness for historical novels--for Patrick O'Brian, more recently for David Liss, etc. --she told me of the guilty pleasures of Heyer's historical romance novels.

Well! And so! Am I some kind of snob that I can read historical novels that are murder mysteries and historical novels that are sea stories but not historical novels that just happen to feature a plucky, innocent and intrepid heroine who is transformed into a beauty by fashionable clothing?

Of course I recognized full well the debt that Heyer owed to Fanny Burney's Evelina and Jane Austen's first book, Northanger Abbey. (Both of which were written at the turn of the 19th century.) Oh yes, all well and good, but I was still out in public snickering audibly into a library book with a little "romance" sticker on the spine--with little red hearts on it.

In all honesty, what is Vikram Seth's A Suitable Boy, perhaps my all-time favorite novel, but a historical romance? But Seth's book is layered, complex, and really long. Heyer gave me the sense of being in the hands of a master of a genre. There were going to be no slow bits to this, I could tell from the first page--and there weren't.

I'm totally going to read more.

ETA: I am so tired that I wrote "plunky" instead of "plucky", above.

Date: 2006-12-22 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mkcs.livejournal.com
The thing with Heyer is that she pretty much invented her genre (the Regency romance). They were what she wrote for the love of writing, mostly. Her detective novels tend to read like the potboilers they were, IMO.

I've tried reading other authors' Regency novels, but I didn't like them so much at all.

Date: 2006-12-22 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eucritta.livejournal.com
Ah, yes. The rot's set in [g].

My favorite Heyer is The Black Sheep, btw.

Date: 2006-12-22 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sscrewdriver.livejournal.com
Georgette Heyer is a MASTER of writing. So good. In the past, I must say that I've read a few 'romance' novels, mostly second hand from my mother or other female relatives, but they are all pants compared to Heyer.

But the important question is - did you fall in love with Kitty/Freddie? I so did!

Hmm. I can see the embarassment of reading books with a little 'romance' sticker on the cover. In my experience, it involves holding your thumb over the offending area and it makes the hand ache.

Looksee! I have a new smoochie icon!

Date: 2006-12-22 08:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] boxofdelights
Yay Heyer! I have a bunch of old paperback copies (duplicates) which I would be glad to mail to you.

Date: 2006-12-23 03:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] boxofdelights
Okay, I've found Sprig Muslin, False Colours, The Black Moth, and Cotillion, and I think I have a least three more somewhere. You want?

Date: 2006-12-23 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Who, me? You are going to send me coals to Newcastle free books?

Date: 2006-12-23 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Though I appreciate the coolness of a user named boxofdelights sending a box of delightful books to a scheming reader, I had better turn you down! My husband gave a gasp of horror--not about the content, but about my willingness to accept several MORE books into the chaos that is our house.

Date: 2006-12-29 09:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] boxofdelights
Sympathy. And speaking of Newcastle, I'm almost done putting all the books I have on shelves into librarything. My husband thinks that since this house is full of books, obviously I should delete some every time I acquire more.

It's not that easy!

Date: 2006-12-22 08:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazy-neutrino.livejournal.com
And I read very little romantic fanfic but have a secret weakness for the trashiest of romance novels - Mills and Boon, which I will buy secondhand if I spot my favourite authors!

If you're a snob then I'm a chav.

Date: 2006-12-22 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gaycrow.livejournal.com
I discovered Georgette Heyer when I was about 16, and eventually bought nearly all of her novels. I really loved them when I was younger, and the books are all dog-eared from many readings.

"These Old Shades" was the first one I read, and I think that would have to be close to my favourite. The sequel's good, too. I also loved "The Grand Sophy". There are so many to choose from!

I just found a link I bookmarked a while ago, all about Georgette Heyer's stories. There are a few links to fan fic there as well. Click here.

Date: 2006-12-22 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bronze-ribbons.livejournal.com
Bujold's A Civil Campaign is dedicated to Heyer, Sayers, Austen, and... *goes to look* Charlotte Bronte.

Romance novels are my comfort reads. (A little too much so, actually - I've gone so far as to put most of my Stephanie Laurens and Nora Roberts in storage, because I was too often losing myself in rereading them. :-/)

And Jo Beverley's Devilish is an all-time favorite because both the hero and heroine are control freaks. My people! *g*

Date: 2006-12-22 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veradee.livejournal.com
I only know one of Heyer's novels, but I see that you've read A Suitable Boy. I assume you'd recommend it? It has been sitting on my bookshelf for ten years and I still haven't read it. I don't mind huge books, but this one is just so huge that I never had the courage to actually start reading it.

Date: 2006-12-22 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Oh my gosh, I love that book so much! It is just beautiful. It is one of the longest books in the English language, that's true. But he does such a brilliant job maintaining the structure of the narrative. I think one reason that it's so long is that he doesn't have many flat characters. They are all very well-realized.

The place and time came alive for me, even more so than in Midnight's Children, which is set in the same period. I had loved Midnight's Children, which is I think Salman Rushdie's best book. (No maybe not: Haroun and the Sea of Stories!) But I seem to have outgrown my passion for magical realism.

It might be also that I have a natural sympathy for Seth's metaphors. He's all about music, and so am I.

One of the minor (and most delightful) characters in the novel falls in love with a German diplomat. There are a lot of cute Bengali-meets-German-culture moments in the seventh chapter. I understand that one of Seth's memoirs, Two Lives, which I haven't read yet, is about his great-uncle's marriage to a German Jewish woman. So he was probably familiar with this cultural meeting!

Date: 2006-12-22 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veradee.livejournal.com
This sounds fantastic. Round characters, metaphors about music, and a connection to Germany. I love it when places really come alive when I read. It seems I know what my New Year's resolution will be.

I must admit that I bought the book for rather shallow reasons. Vikram Seth is the brother of actor Roshan Seth, whom I like very much.

Date: 2006-12-22 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
He is? Are you sure about that? I looked them both up on Wikipedia and they don't seem to be related. They did go to the same famous boarding school in India, though.

Roshan Seth is wonderful, that's certainly true! I loved his face in Mississippi Masala, do you remember that old movie? When he goes back to Uganda? Wow.

Vikram Seth has written several books that are much shorter than A Suitable Boy. His first novel, The Golden Gate, was written entirely in verse. After A Suitable Boy he wrote a romance novel (!) about a musician, An Equal Music. He's an economist and he speaks Chinese! He's amazing.

Date: 2006-12-22 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veradee.livejournal.com
I'm absolutely sure that I was told so years ago, but I've never tried to find a proof. Now that I did some googling it seems that they are not related. Oh well. The way you described the book means that I will finally read it anyway.

Yes, I know Mississippi Massala. It's a beautiful film. I first saw him in Gandhi. I liked him so much more as Nehru than I did Ben Kingsley as Gandhi. I also enjoyed My Beautiful Laundrette very much, although his role isn't exactly nice in that film.

I'll stick to A Suitable Boy first. If I like it, I can branch out and read others of Vikram Seth's novels.

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