meta for [personal profile] cordelia_v for your birthday

Jan. 6th, 2007 11:16 pm
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Happy Birthday, [livejournal.com profile] cordelia_v!

I meant for this to go up on your birthday. I thought I had another 50 minutes! here is some meta for you:


Winning at Fandom: How do people become BNFs, are you one, and what skills can you take away for your real life?


Awesomeness points
My husband is really into a video blogger named Ze Frank, whose blog is called The Show. He likes it so much that we have a regular weeknight date to eat Tofutti Cuties and watch it together. It's only three minutes long, but it's fun. Ze is an amazingly clever guy and he has a lot of fans. He decided to test out some social software, called The Org, to basically hook up his fans and get them to share their creativity. My husband was one of 3,000 fans who signed up to be beta-testers.

One aspect of the social software that I thought was really interesting was "awesomeness points." Participants seem to be earning points for three things:

1. Being among the first to sign up for The Org—early adopters
2. Making some cool art or writing for The Org
3. Or, making something cool that promotes relationships on The Org

(The Org software also tracks subscribers (or friends, as we would call them on LJ) and people who have recently hit your site. )

I immediately thought "Oh, that's just how I think fandom works. I have this idea about how people become BNFs." A BNF is a "big name fan." People in fandom mock BNFs all the time. I think understanding how people get to be BNFs and also, how people get to win at fandom has some interesting lessons.

Who is a BNF?

Obviously, a BNF is well-known. But who, typically, gets to be a BNF?

1. Fandom oldsters. Fandom has hierarchies of tenure. If you are one of the first people in a fandom, then everyone knows you. The longer people are in fandom, the more relationships they can have.

2. People who do all the organizing. Oldsters are often responsible for creating the first archives for fan fic, news site collecting information on a book or movie, or even starting fan clubs for specific actors or writers. But you don't have to be among the first in a fandom to do tons of work. If you organize a fic fest, a pairing community, or an archive that collects a specific kind of writing, people know you. You also necessarily develop relationships.

3. People who create great fan work Now, you can create great stuff and not get to be a BNF, if you don't have any relationships with anyone. But there are some people doing all the work who have their eyes open for new writers and artists, and if you make beautiful stories and art, they could decide to pimp you. You can find a niche.

4. People who understand the social codes of fandom. There are a lot of ways that people in fandom do relationship building. One way is to leave positive comments on other people's fan work. Another is to respond to positive comments in a friendly way. You can beta-read other people's fan fiction if you have editing skills. You can even make a name for yourself writing meta! Then there are role playing games, conventions, and chat. All of these are opportunities to encourage other people to create fanwork you want to see, and to build friendships with people who share your interests.

Are you a BNF? Should you want to be one?

Well….let's ask the question this way. Are you winning at fandom? How can you tell?

• Have you made a lot of new friends?
• Do they encourage you to write or make other art?
• Do you feel connection with a lot of other people over shared interests?

Then you are winning at fandom.

If you are also:

• Responsible for a large chunk of uncompensated work
• Making it possible for a lot of other people to connect, through a community, an archive, a convention or another project
• Amassing a very large audience of people who want to see what you'll write or draw next

Then you are a BNF. If people criticize you behind your back, then you are FOR SURE a BNF!

What can you take away for the rest of life?

Do you ever feel like your childhood has shaped your ability to have social interactions just a little too much? Yeah. Me too. It just kills your confidence when you didn't get it right at the critical stage.

But I have learned, in my real life and here on the net, that there are modes of relating that are conventional. They might be annoying, but they do help you to make genuine connections with other people. I think it's a little easier on the web for me than in person, because on the web it's all writing. I will never be supersuave cocktail party flirty person, but I am learning neat stuff.

Sharing interests with people is a way of making friends. Building relationships is the way to make things happen. At your paid work, at your political activism, at your church, synagogue, mosque or coven, in your charitable volunteer work, in your community orchestra, choir or punk band, at your block party: making friends makes every activity worthwhile, and you make friends by doing things together. Having those warm working relationships makes every activity possible.

As always, you learn by playing, and what you learn is to play nice and to win at life.

Date: 2007-01-07 04:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cordelia_v
*is gleeful*

Oh my. This is the first piece of birthday meta ever written for me. In fact, the first piece of meta evah, written for me. Thanks so very much for the thought, and the gift!

And it's provocative. Mostly, because this is the most positive and upbeat take on BNFs that I've ever read. I started off reading it, a bit uncomfortable about whether you were going to imply that I was a BNF (I certainly don't consider myself to be!. Only moderately well-known in one pairing, and not a big fic writer). But by the end, you demystified it and made it seem not so awful at all.

I like template of fandom as being like a video game. And the implicit notion here that we can all be winners. And the links to how those skills rollover to (or are expressed in) RL.

I do think that a lot of name recognition in fandom is simple longevity, plus regular work on fandom's infrastructure (volunteering for things), some creativity, and just regular and pleasant interactions with others. You really do capture that all very well.

Thanks so much for thinking of me, and for writing this. It should certainly provoke a fair bit of dicussion.

Date: 2007-01-07 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Well, I know I should have written the next bit, which is "and why does everyone seem to hate BNFs so much?" But I thought that could wait for another essay!

Really? No one has ever written a meta for you? I feel so cool!

Date: 2007-01-07 04:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cordelia_v
Oh, you are so cool (regardless of whether you write meta for me, or not). :-) And no, I can't recall someone writing meta for me before. Hope I'm not forgetting someone's!

Date: 2007-01-07 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rexluscus.livejournal.com
That's what I thought. It's a treatment of BNFs without the usual "aren't we all just insects" cynicism. :)

Date: 2007-01-07 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magnetic-pole.livejournal.com
Happy birthday, sweetie! Love the icon. *smile* Maggie

Date: 2007-01-07 05:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cordelia_v
Thanks, Maggie!

Date: 2007-01-07 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfgirljen.livejournal.com
The whole BNF is highly overrated. I've found that BNF depending on the fandom are stuck up at best and f*cking snobs and then some at worse.

In my 19+ years in fandom I have meet the best and worst that fandom as to offer and the nicest fans I have ever met are the ones who don't blow their own horns.

Just my two cents.

Date: 2007-01-07 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
i think i might do a second essay about why BNFs often wind up in conflict with other fans.

Date: 2007-01-07 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfgirljen.livejournal.com
PLease do. I would love to read it.

Date: 2007-01-07 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catrinella.livejournal.com
Because other people start expecting Absolutely Perfect and Giving Behaviour As One Might See From A Marble Statue That Is Also Loving And Humane And Infinitely Patient from said BNFs without taking into consideration that most BNFs didn't sign up for the gig, or don't consider themselves to be such anyway.

In the wank I've seen, it's usually the "other fans" who cause the conflict.

Date: 2007-01-07 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Aha, you have already written 50% of my essay. But then there is the other half!

Date: 2007-01-07 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfgirljen.livejournal.com
On the flip side I've met the BNF who expect people to fall down and worship the ground they walk on because they wrote a fic/ran a website/mail listing/ran a con/wrote newsletters/ the so called fan agents etc. They want their gratifacation now and by golly if they don't get they threw public hissy fits via their websites etc.

Date: 2007-01-07 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
I wrote a sequel to this meta that I believe addresses both of these sets of unrealistic expectations and puts them into the context of the diffuse, non-hierarchical nature of fandom. Let me know what you think.

Date: 2007-01-08 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dartmouthtongue.livejournal.com
I didn't know what BNF were, but I'm lucky then, because I'm absolutely no one in the fandom I frequent and I just realized I have a lot of BNF's on my flist and I've never been made to feel like I'm a lowly newb. I've never seen them blowing their own horns either. They simply write great stuff or create communities and fests and other people, who are made happy by them, celebrate theirs names in gratitude. It's like the BNF's dispense a service, and you want that service and you go to them, and then you tell other people look they do cool shit, you want cool shit too? That's all. No horns involved.

Date: 2007-01-07 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bronze-ribbons.livejournal.com
IMNSHO, this should be included in Fandom 101 kits everywhere. It's one of the most succinct and friendly introduction/summaries to How to Become a Well-Known Fan (If You Want to Be).

...and, FWIW, one of my lingering memories from Lumos is of a friend turning to me and saying, "Face it, you are a BNF, at least within the world of Snupin." .... By my standards, I'm not. I don't have the time to cross-post/rec/volunteer/write/RP/keep up with the friendslist (never mind increase it) nearly as much as I want, and PG literary romance/crossovers are seldom going to draw as much of an audience as NC17 epics. That, and many people are simply better and/or more entertaining writers. :-)

But, I can see why my friend said so, and it wasn't meant (or taken) as an insult. At least within Snape/Lupin, the people I would regard as BNFs work extraordinarily hard at promoting the pairing, producing good fic/art/RPs, running comms, and encouraging others, so it's truly a compliment to be thought of as in their league.

Date: 2007-01-07 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Well, you know, we all get to be BNFs if you frame the question around what we do! Even the greenest newbie can be a BNF "among newbies in the Rosemary Wells fandom--in our house." (That's my son, by the way, who has discovered a passion for Rosemary Wells' books.)

Date: 2007-01-07 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magnetic-pole.livejournal.com
Ah, SR, I would recognize this combination of directness, insight, and general looking-on-the-bright-side-of-things-ness anywhere. Well done! Maggie

Date: 2007-01-07 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
I am going to be like those guys at the end of Life of Brian, whistling "always look on the bright side of life!"

Glad you liked my meta. I wrote another out of my compulsive "writing the promised sequel" syndrome. I wish I didn't have that. Maybe there are anti-biotics for it.

Date: 2007-01-07 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cousin-giry.livejournal.com
So that's what a BNF is. I've seen that word around but never understood what it meant. Thanks for the essay. It was interesting to read.

Date: 2007-01-07 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Glad you enjoyed it!
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From: [personal profile] ender24
here via metafandom, and dude, finally, some things that happened to me two years ago, makes so much sense :D
thanks a lot!
a very enlightening essay :)

hell NO!

Date: 2007-01-09 10:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ender24
I am sorry, if i make you misunderstood me!
it really makes me happy, that some things makes more sense now.
plus, those people, whom I suppose were talking behind my back, have moved on, while I am now in charge of the fandom I love :D
being a BNF (or rather BNF Big Name Reccer, archivist, moderator, and maintainer) is a wonderful thing, i have succeeded in pulling old authors write again, and got new readers and authors joining SV to write for everyone's enjoyment, and all that since a period starting two years ago, where every and my best friends in fandom were pegging SV for dead *g*.
one day, I am going to send flowers to those who critized me, because they were the ones giving me the strength to turn into a BNF ;D

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