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@SanketDG SanketDG commented Apr 18, 2017

Prefer dunderless functions, and mention that the dunder
functions only exist because of the sake of backward
compatilibity.

https://bugs.python.org/issue30085

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Remote the .. note: directive and combine the two sentences into one paragraph. That will get the message across but not litter the visual appearance of the docs with big note blocks that aren't central to actually using the module. In particular, this note is of less documentation value than the following paragraph that describes the function categories. It would be better if all of that text (the intro paragraph, the two new sentences, and the categorization paragraph were read as a single block of text with three paragraphs. Breaking it up with note blocks impairs intelligiblity and created a weird emphasis on what not to do rather than what to do (see the dev guide suggestions for documenting affirmatively).

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Thank you for the constructive comment, it does make sense to not use note, because it denotes a certain emphasis.

I have updated it to be read as a paragraph.

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Should "without" be "with"?

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Yes, I have fixed that and also removed the word also since it doesn't stand in this context.

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See the issue for suggested revision, which is close to this one after the requested revisions.

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Remove 'new paragraph'

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and delete promises about the future.

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ping @terryjreedy @rhettinger, this looks good?

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I presume 'this' is 6ca4493. Sanket, apparently made a 'force-push', whereas simple commits are not recommended in the devguide. On the other hand, it makes the final net patch visible.
Raymond, I think this is ready to merge. I am not sure about backporting.

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Please change "We recommend using the dunderless form." to "The dunderless form is preferred for clarity". Normally, we don't use "we" in the docs :-) Also, let's drop the last sentence. It is confusing and isn't essential to the message. The cases were they aren't the same are somewhat esoteric (i.e. doesn't check NotImplemented with a fallback to the y.radd(x) method). Otherwise, for most intents and purposes they are the same.

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Dunderless sounds like a made-up term or jargon. I don’t think the documentation even uses dunder anywhere. I would write it as “the variants without the double underscores”.

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SanketDG commented May 8, 2017

@rhettinger @vadmium I have updated the same, thanks!

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@rhettinger ping.

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SanketDG commented Jul 2, 2017

@rhettinger It's been a while 😄

Prefer dunderless functions, and mention that the dunder
functions only exist because of the sake of backward
compatilibity.
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@rhettinger @vadmium @terryjreedy Can I get some update on this?

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Raymond, you assigned this to yourself. I think all review requests have been met. Do you want to write the news blurb, have me write one (and merge), or skip the news?

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@terryjreedy this is ready for merge? Any changes needed?

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tiran commented Sep 15, 2017

@rhettinger ping

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Hmm, Is it allowed that someone else merge it when the original assignee is not merging it?

@terryjreedy terryjreedy merged commit 5b9299d into python:master Sep 24, 2017
@SanketDG SanketDG deleted the issue-30085 branch September 24, 2017 20:49
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Thanks @SanketDG for the PR, and @terryjreedy for merging it 🌮🎉.. I'm working now to backport this PR to: 3.6.
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GH-3736 is a backport of this pull request to the 3.6 branch.

miss-islington pushed a commit to miss-islington/cpython that referenced this pull request Sep 24, 2017
The dunderless functions are preferred; dunder are retained for back compatilibity.
Patch by Sanket Dasgupta.
(cherry picked from commit 5b9299d)
terryjreedy pushed a commit that referenced this pull request Sep 24, 2017
The dunderless functions are preferred; dunder are retained for back compatilibity.
Patch by Sanket Dasgupta.
(cherry picked from commit 5b9299d)
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