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If anyone’s wondering whether US farmers exporting to China just need a little “temporary help” to get over Trump’s trade war, read this thread from farmer Sarah Taber on Mastodon. She’s a farmer from North Carolina and deeply involved in farming issues. Read all of the thread.

If you won’t, though – if know your US Civil War history, you might know about how the Confederacy self-embargoed cotton exports, withholding “King Cotton” from the market.

They thought it would grind textiles production in the UK to a halt and force the UK to come in on their side of the war.

What happened instead was Egyptian cotton.

Trump pulled his bullshit thinking China would bow to him over soybeans; what happened instead was Brazil and Argentina. They haven’t bought a single goddamn US soybean since last spring, as South America ramped production right the fuck up.

Soybeans were the US’s largest agricultural export.

Emphasis on were.

And arguably, it gets worse from there.

So seriously, go read the thread. It’s good, knowledgable shit.

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Date: 2025-10-01 06:55 pm (UTC)
kathmandu: Close-up of pussywillow catkins. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kathmandu
As it happens, I'd read a bit about soybeans before this year.

China had other suppliers already. The US soybean-marketing lobby spent *years* carefully persuading China to buy from us. It took something like a decade to convince them we could produce good-enough quality, high-enough protein content, consistently, at acceptable prices.

All that work went down the drain this year. We failed to come through (by decision! not by natural disasters!) just a few years after persuading China to take a chance on us.

Date: 2025-10-01 10:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] armiphlage
Well, it's not all bad. Without needing to fertilize all the soybean fields lying fallow, the farmers won't have to pay the additional 10% tariffs Trump put on Canadian potash (which is the source of 85% of all added potassium on US agricultural crops).

Of course, since China is signing long-term trade agreements with Canadian potash exporters, the US will have to find another source of potassium if the trade barriers are dropped.

Date: 2025-10-01 10:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] canyonwalker
It's laughable how short-sighted-- to the point the flaws are so easy to see it's willful ignorance not to see them-- Trump's trade policies are.

You can only force more favorable terms from a trading partner to the extent that you have leverage. Leverage means either you have something of value you can offer them, or you can take something of value away from them. The "take away" stratagem only lasts until there's a substitute for your goods. And when those goods are basic agricultural commodities like soybeans-- already grown in many countries around the world-- it's easy for a buyer to find an alternate source.

Date: 2025-10-02 12:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dewline
"Our ancestors came here to become willfully ignorant of the rest of the world and to make our ignorance the law of the world! Damn right, we're never gonna learn!"

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